5 US Marines raped Pinay. US flexes might over RP...

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By OPPORTUNITY, I am referring to the specific case of a Filipina whom you say is a hooker taking the opportunity of the situation to make money from some American soldiers. Diba you were the one who wanted specifics, not generalizations? What does YOUR grabbing whatever opportunity have to do with the specific "opportunity" in this case?

Â*Puslan man makakita ug kwarta ang babay from compensation cause by the damage to her , mapalagpot ang kano na sundalo sa nasod . Kana ha clear na kaau na murag mineral water . BTW ... who are you to say also SHE is not a HOOKER and that she was really RAPED ? Ikaw ba ang witnessed or fanatic lang ka ug reports na sensationalized ?

The only reason I can think of why you think Filipinos will do such a dishonest act of falsely claiming rape to make money, is because you yourself would do it, or are surrounded by people who would do such a thing.

Â*WRONG THINKING again ... I know there are more reasons than that .. even you given the chance of opportunity will grab it . Mapa good or bad just to excuse urself from hardships Â*INgna ko ug hipkroto kung ako di ko na buhtaon yet tawgon pod tika ug hipokrito kung mo deny ka ana . You are simply just attacking me personally because you refuse to accept it or cant accept it because mo contradict siya tanan s aopinions nimo . To think di na siya opinion nako but forecast nako basing from the reports na kamo ra pod ga sibya diri .

Again you think that the majority of Filipinos, because they are not well off, will grab any opportunity to make money, even to the point of falsely accusing someone of rape? Grabbing opportunities to work is very different from grabbing an opportunity to send someone to the gallows for a crime they didn't commit. Are they the same thing to you?

Â*Mao na diha karon .. dont be SPECIFIC but GENERALIZED in any form . Ayaw lage ko tuyoka .. kana imong style naa na siya sa pahak nako dugay na ever since makig enkwentro ka nako . Kabalo ang gobyerno nato na mo tabang ang US na gobyerno sa accused , PUSLAN man di pahimuslan . Gets ? Kung locals ba lage ang accused ... ma ingon ba ni siya kaha ??

The relevance is like Miriam, you think Filipinos should just be out to make money. And read my post again, I never said Miriam is upright, in fact my post disparaged her for claiming the same thing you're claiming, that Filipinos will "naturally" want to just make more money.

Â*Hehehe .. you didnt know that ? FIlipinos are out everywhere to make money !! Just like anyone else in the world ilabi na ug majority of that people are living a below poverty . Saonz ka ... you dont have to be an ANALYST to analyzed that .

Grabbing opportunity is one thing, but falsely accusing American soldiers of rape (which can result in them being executed) to make money, is not something most Filipinos will do. Maybe you would consider such things?

You still didnt get the point . Do you really think if GUILTY ang 6 ma priso sila sa PILIPINAS ? I dont think so . GUILTY or NOT ... mo compensate ang kano to keep the US-RP relationship smooth sailing . But I didnt say na kung guilty ang 6 , di na sila ma prosecute sa US under the UCMJ .... more hrash than u even thought of sa civilian sector .

Remember that the SPECIFIC opportunity being discussed here is the one of accusing American soldiers of rape, not making money by working hard in a far-away land. Why are you changing your point? Point is you believe her to be a hooker only out to make money from some American soldiers, because you believe Filipinos will grab such an opportunity. You have a very low view of her, and Filipinos in general.

Â*For the RECORD , imohang SPECIFIC POINT na and not mine . Just because I said ang FILIPINOS mostly kay OPPORTUNIST makes u assumed that I was stepping down on them ? LIke someone else here said ... opportunity comes knocking once lang yet it doesnt have to be bad but good also .Ayaw pag negative thinking kay mahug na naigo ka . I have a low view of her because I just know her as a " VICTIM " . Her name wasnt even released ... mga factors lang gumikan sa reports na for NTH time inconsistent .

Yup, hagbay ra gyud ka nalipong... my response to your assertion that Filipinos are opportunists and will do anything to make money... is "Wa ka malipong?"

Dont assert that I asserted . Nalipong ko kay dugay ka pasabton , not sa unsay akong gipasabot nimo . DI diay ka mo tuo na ang PINOY will do anything to make money ? Where in the Philippines have you been hiding lately ?

Seen clearly by who? And by whose "factors"? Not everyone here thinks she's a hooker just because she happens to be a Filipina complaining of rape by 6 American soldiers. Again:

Â*Because KABABAYAN nila gani ... but do they know the truth ? I myself dont know the truth but gikan ra sa reports lage na gi post ninyo ang gibasehan nako .

a) she's not a hooker

Because local officials and reporters said shes not ?

b) even if she was, rape is rape, whether committed on prostitutes or presidents.

Walay ni argue niom ana . Basta naa lang proof and evidences to prove the crime and not ur regular Mang Tonyo na driver matod pa ni COFIBEAN as a witness . Aw ni hilom na man to siya noh kay gi bayran na man daw matod sa opinion ni BAGOFCANDIES . Oh di ba !! Opportunist pod ang driver kung tinuod man gani to .

I am not only indignant because a fellow Filipino has been raped by Americans. I am indignant because a supposedly "patriotic" Filipino like you, thinks she's making it all up about being raped because you think all Filipinos are "opportunists" and "only out to make money".

Â*Kung consistent lang unta ang news reports then I wont come up with thinking like these . The latter is TRUE and that wont EXCEMPT you either . Kung hatagan ka ug US VISA karon dayon with plane tickets .... di ka mo larga dayon ? Bakakon ka ug NO imong tubag . AYaw sabta literally ha na ikaw na sepcific but to every JUAN DE LA CRUZ . DI ba majority ang YES ana , ikaw lang mo gamit sa word na OPPORTUNIST to pin me down regarding sa alleged crime sa Gapo ... dong tuldok ra na sa akong gipasabot that includes both GOOD and BAD intentions by each and every FIlipino who wants a better life .

You were the one who said you believe that she's a hooker, and that "if she's a hooker, then na-rape siya, so what? She'll get paid anyway", diba? I always said investigate the crime first, BEFORE making an assumption that she's a hooker and therefore likely to just be out to make money from the Americans. Who here said he believed she's a hooker? Diba ikaw?

Â*NO ... investigate the CRIME first kung na RAPE ba siya and not that she is a HOOKER . Ikaw ra ga ingon RAPE is a crime bisan BURIKAT ka or PRESIDENTE .

Well, for me, your saying that Filipinos are opportunistic, in light of this case, is UNREALISTIC.

Really ? Para nimo , sadly you dont represent the MAJORITY . I myself neither but Ive seen those majority from all ages to all walks of life . Ikaw , refuses to accept it because natandog ang garbo nimo as a fellow PINOY . Dont worry tandog man pod ko kay PINOY pod ko gud ... sad but true lang gyud .

When you say opportunistic in light of this case, it means you believe Filipinos will willingly subject themselves to the humiliation of being raped just to make money. That's unrealistic, and is a product of your own imagination coupled with your low opinion of Filipinas.

LOLZ ... I never said that but you . QUote me when I said that . Heard of the word MANIPULATION ? Do you even know that naay SEXUAL INTERCOURSE just because naay condom nakit-an ? Are you a rape VICTIM Mr BFG9000 ?

The question is what will it take to convince you that she's NOT a prostitute, because you said you believe she is one?

Â*It wont convinced me becasue that is not the point . Last time I check the topic bisan 5 ra nakasuwat instead of 6 is PINAY RAPED by US SOLDIERS and not PINAY HOOKER RAPED by US SOLDIERS .

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Puslan man makakita ug kwarta ang babay from compensation cause by the damage to her , mapalagpot ang kano na sundalo sa nasod . Kana ha clear na kaau na murag mineral water . BTW ... who are you to say also SHE is not a HOOKER and that she was really RAPED ? Ikaw ba ang witnessed or fanatic lang ka ug reports na sensationalized ?

And who are you to say that she is a hooker?

WRONG THINKING again ... I know there are more reasons than that .. even you given the chance of opportunity will grab it . Mapa good or bad just to excuse urself from hardships INgna ko ug hipkroto kung ako di ko na buhtaon yet tawgon pod tika ug hipokrito kung mo deny ka ana . You are simply just attacking me personally because you refuse to accept it or cant accept it because mo contradict siya tanan s aopinions nimo . To think di na siya opinion nako but forecast nako basing from the reports na kamo ra pod ga sibya diri .

Di nimo opinion, pero imong forecast? LOL.

I am not attacking you personally. I am attacking your mistaken idea that Filipinos, especially the poor, will grab ANY opportunity to make money, including falsely accusing people of rape, just to make money.

Hehehe .. you didnt know that ? FIlipinos are out everywhere to make money !! Just like anyone else in the world ilabi na ug majority of that people are living a below poverty . Saonz ka ... you dont have to be an ANALYST to analyzed that .

So you think FIlipinos everywhere are willing to falsely accuse someone of rape to make money? Because that's what we're talking about here, not whether Filipinos want to work outside the country, etc.

You still didnt get the point . Do you really think if GUILTY ang 6 ma priso sila sa PILIPINAS ? I dont think so . GUILTY or NOT ... mo compensate ang kano to keep the US-RP relationship smooth sailing . But I didnt say na kung guilty ang 6 , di na sila ma prosecute sa US under the UCMJ .... more hrash than u even thought of sa civilian sector .

Daghan nimo storya... the question is whether or not sakto ba ang imong assertion that she's a hooker and just out to make money from the "opportunity".

For the RECORD , imohang SPECIFIC POINT na and not mine . Just because I said ang FILIPINOS mostly kay OPPORTUNIST makes u assumed that I was stepping down on them ? LIke someone else here said ... opportunity comes knocking once lang yet it doesnt have to be bad but good also .Ayaw pag negative thinking kay mahug na naigo ka . I have a low view of her because I just know her as a " VICTIM " . Her name wasnt even released ... mga factors lang gumikan sa reports na for NTH time inconsistent .

You are saying Filipinos are opportunist and using that to justify your belief that "she's a hooker" just out to make money. It doesn't matter that opportunities can be good or bad, we are discussing whether or not the alleged rape is just a "hooker" taking advantage of an "opportunity". That's the opportunity we are talking about, and it is BAD. And I totally disagree with you that majority of Filipinos are willing to falsely accuse someone of rape just so they can take advantage of an "opportunity" to make money!

Dont assert that I asserted . Nalipong ko kay dugay ka pasabton , not sa unsay akong gipasabot nimo . DI diay ka mo tuo na ang PINOY will do anything to make money ? Where in the Philippines have you been hiding lately ?

I'm right here in Metro Manila. And no, Pinoys will NOT do "anything" to make money. I don't believe they will accuse innocent Americans of rape just to make some money, for one. Maybe you're different.

Because KABABAYAN nila gani ... but do they know the truth ? I myself dont know the truth but gikan ra sa reports lage na gi post ninyo ang gibasehan nako .

If you don't know the truth, why do you believe she's a hooker?

Because local officials and reporters said shes not ?

Why shouldn't I believe them? Oh, I forgot, you don't want me to believe the SBMA unless I'm an SBMA member too. Sheesh.

Walay ni argue niom ana . Basta naa lang proof and evidences to prove the crime and not ur regular Mang Tonyo na driver matod pa ni COFIBEAN as a witness . Aw ni hilom na man to siya noh kay gi bayran na man daw matod sa opinion ni BAGOFCANDIES . Oh di ba !! Opportunist pod ang driver kung tinuod man gani to .

So present your evidence too for your belief that she's a hooker.

Kung consistent lang unta ang news reports then I wont come up with thinking like these . The latter is TRUE and that wont EXCEMPT you either

So you're calling me an opportunist out to make money? Speak for yourself. Ikaw siguro opportunist and "nawng ug kwarta", not me. And certainly not the majority of Filipinos either.

Kung hatagan ka ug US VISA karon dayon with plane tickets .... di ka mo larga dayon ? Bakakon ka ug NO imong tubag .

It doesn't hurt anyone to go to the US, unlike a false accusation of rape which can send someone to the gallows. So they aren't comparable "opportunities". So yes, maybe majority will go. Then again I know many other Filipinos like me who have been offered to work abroad too but prefer to stay in the country and help it grow.

AYaw sabta literally ha na ikaw na sepcific but to every JUAN DE LA CRUZ . DI ba majority ang YES ana , ikaw lang mo gamit sa word na OPPORTUNIST to pin me down regarding sa alleged crime sa Gapo ... dong tuldok ra na sa akong gipasabot that includes both GOOD and BAD intentions by each and every FIlipino who wants a better life .

And, tell me, why does the fact the you believe that most Filipinos want to go abroad if they have the opportunity, lead you to believe that the rape victim in this case is "just a hooker out to make money"?

NO ... investigate the CRIME first kung na RAPE ba siya and not that she is a HOOKER . Ikaw ra ga ingon RAPE is a crime bisan BURIKAT ka or PRESIDENTE .

Then why do you believe she's a hooker without any investigation into the rape? By saying you believe that she's a hooker and an opportunist, you imply that the rape is false.

Really ? Para nimo , sadly you dont represent the MAJORITY . I myself neither but Ive seen those majority from all ages to all walks of life . Ikaw , refuses to accept it because natandog ang garbo nimo as a fellow PINOY . Dont worry tandog man pod ko kay PINOY pod ko gud ... sad but true lang gyud .

It's appalling to me that a supposedly patriotic Pinoy like yourself has such a low opinion of your countrymen.

When you say opportunistic in light of this case, it means you believe Filipinos will willingly subject themselves to the humiliation of being raped just to make money. That's unrealistic, and is a product of your own imagination coupled with your low opinion of Filipinas.

LOLZ ... I never said that but you . QUote me when I said that . Heard of the word MANIPULATION ? Do you even know that naay SEXUAL INTERCOURSE just because naay condom nakit-an ? Are you a rape VICTIM Mr BFG9000 ?

I'm not a rape victim. Are you a rapist?

Here's your quote where you said you really think she's a hooker:

Heck I really think she is one , bahala magsakit mo sa gi sulti nako .

It wont convinced me becasue that is not the point . Last time I check the topic bisan 5 ra nakasuwat instead of 6 is PINAY RAPED by US SOLDIERS and not PINAY HOOKER RAPED by US SOLDIERS .

If it's not the point, then why did you mention it? Instead of acting in compassion for a woman who might have been raped, you instead question her morals and make an unfounded assertion that she's a hooker and an opportunist, because of your own personal belief that the majority of Filipinos are "opportunists" and "out to make money".

[janne]

uuuummm init ning debateha dah!...anywayz, based on wat i've heard ang pinay gurl kay *** worker man2 nya sa ako lng pangagpas usa ra cguro ka kano ang agreement a2 but then na surprised tingali sya kay na 1x5 =5 so na shocked ang pinaySW and basin sab gibinaboy sab sya so nahug na nga raped case na2....we all know sab bya nga foreigners think pinay gurlz are sexworkers so that's why cguro they won't give respects to PGirls....I'm a gurl mansab dapat malooy ko sa pinaygirl nya maglagot ko sa mga kano but doubtful ko sa panghitabo..?.....so mao na!!

[jnex]

Wala may bag-ong balita regarding sa investigation uy...puro gibalita kana ramang kahig-us sa nahitabo...unya ingon sa nanay dili lang daw ang dignidad sa anak ang ipaglaban nila kundi para sa mga Filipino...

Murag its more on pride ang gipaglaban ba...wala kaha na gisulsulan?

[jnex]

uuuummm init ning debateha dah!...anywayz, based on wat i've heardÂ* ang pinay gurl kay *** worker man2 nya sa ako lng pangagpas usa ra cguro ka kano ang agreement a2 but then na surprised tingali sya kay na 1x5 =5 so na shocked ang pinaySW and basin sab gibinaboy sab sya so nahug na nga raped case na2....we all know sab bya nga foreigners think pinay gurlz are sexworkers so that's why cguro they won't give respects to PGirls....I'm a gurl mansab dapat malooy ko sa pinaygirl nya maglagot ko sa mga kano but doubtful ko sa panghitabo..?.....so mao na!!

Possible sad...kay base sa medical result...minor laceration lang ang nadiskobre sa *** organ sa babaye....imposible kaayo nga minor lang tapos tabangan kag lima? labi kung gibinaboy ka......sooooos sakyan na pob ug politician da..!!

[bfg9000]

mposible kaayo nga minor lang tapos tabangan kag lima? labi kung gibinaboy ka...

The news reports state that only one of the Americans did the actual rape while the others cheered him on.

[jnex]

mposible kaayo nga minor lang tapos tabangan kag lima? labi kung gibinaboy ka...

The news reports state that only one of the Americans did the actual rape while the others cheered him on.

Awww...mao ba diay...so unsa may mahimong sala adtong lima nga cheerer? nganong ang balita 6 man sila nag rape?

[bfg9000]

@jnex

They'll probably be charged as accessories to the crime.

[jnex]

@jnex

They'll probably be charged as accessories to the crime.

Paeta diay no...kasohan ka kay gipatan-aw ka sa ka maniacan sa isa..!!! Baga-a pod nawong adtong sundaluha no?

[bfg9000]

@jnex

Well, by cheering him on and doing nothing to stop him... accessories sila.