Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[josephdc]

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i received this text message a couple of weeks ago:

I'd rather believe in God and die finding out there isn't one than not believe in Him and die finding that there is.

I think that's called Pascal's Wager. He argued that it's really more reasonable to believe in God than not to believe in him.

He said that if you believe in God, and you find out when you die that he does exist, you win everything and lose nothing. If you don't believe in God, and you find out when you die that he does exist, then you lose everything and win nothing. Or, if you believe in God and it turns out that he doesn't exist and that there is no after life, you would have lost nothing and won nothing since after all you're already dead and have no soul. If you don't believe in God and it turns out that he doesn't exist and there is no after life, you would have lost nothing but you would have won nothing, either.

So basically he said that you have everything to win if you believe in God and find out that he exists, and everything to lose if you don't believe in him and find out that he does exist. Even if you are right that he doesn't exist, you have nothing to lose by believing in him, nor do you have anything to win by not believing in him.

[josephdc]

For me, if there is really God (the God we know) I would be happy meeting Him after life ( if naa jud, bt i believe naa, mao na ako belief).
And to those who are atheist and soon to be, I respect ur belief also, you have reasons dat's why mao
na inyo stand, I myself once questioned God's existence, it's very complicated, daghan kaayo ug questions,
naka ingon ko, sa kadaghan pangutana nako, ang pinaka sayon nga tubag is " JUST BELIEVE THERE IS GOD". questions like, diin gikan ang tawo? ang tubag, kng mo tuo ka ginoo, mo tuo ka ug creation which
is pinakasayon nga tubag, mao ra! But there are also questions nga naka ingon ko naa jud God.

To all, in God's time we will knw the truth, Our belief that God is the most intelligent wlay tao na maka
tugkad, if naa ta'y daghan pangutana, xa ra maka tubag ana, natural ra mn mangutana kay tawo gud ta.

I think it's good to question bro... It's always good to seek answers.

kinsay maka tubag ani nga pangutana kay hangtod karon wla pako kita tubag ani.
KNG ANG TANAN NAAY KATAPUSAN, ASA MAN ANG KATAPUSAN SA SPACE? IF NAA KATAPUSAN ANG
SPACE, UNSAY NAA SA KATAPUSAN SA KATAPUSAN?
DIIN GIKAN SI GOD? NAA BAY NAGBUHAT NI GOD? BEFORE NI GOD GI CREATE ANG GALAXY, ANG TANAN, DIIN MN XA GIKAN? DID HE POPPED FROM NOTHING IN NOTHING? If you believe
the theory of galaxy like bigbang, diin man na gikan ang mga planet? ni tunga ra pud na cla ug kalit?

If the universe is all there is, then there's nothing beyond space. If the universe was created by a God, then there must be something beyond space and time.

I think that's what is mind-boggling about God, because no one caused him. He simply is. His existence is necessary since the universe is dependent on something for its existence. It did not simply "popped" out of nothing. Nothing comes out of nothing. So there must be "something" which caused the universe to exist. And that "something" we call "God".

[munzter666]

@munzter666 and sinyalan
unsa man jud inyong side nganong ni athiest mo, or you dont believe in our God. i read your posts,
intelligent questions but i want also intelligent answers dat made you an athiests.
we have our bible as our basis of our belief, inyoha, unsa mn inyong mga basehan pud.
I knw people quit believing God because ky ni rebelde cla sa teaching sa bible kay wla mn sad
matubag ilang mga pag ampo ug gisamotan pa gni, in short ANG ILA PRAYERS, OPPOSSITE SA OUTCOME
OR WORSE. or possible naa pa mo laing rason ngano, maybe it's history or unsa ba. wait for your post...

eeeeenk!
wrong, you are not referring to an atheist there....you are describing a person PISSED at your god, that kinda fella...BELIEVES in your god,and is pissed.hahaha

how can someone HATE/be PISSED with something they consider nonexistent??

honestly, i have nothing against your 'god' or other gods per se, i'm just INDIFFERENT about them...but i have trouble with its some of its adherents and faithfuls who uses "god" as an excuse for a lot of SILLY things.

[munzter666]

i received this text message a couple of weeks ago:

I'd rather believe in God and die finding out there isn't one than not believe in Him and die finding that there is.

pascal's wager.hehehe

andaming "flaws" nitong wager....that wager did not specify WHICH "god" to believe.
pick the wrong one, and your barbecue.haha

...if this God is a fair and just God as what the literature sez, surely this "GOD" will judge people on their actions in life, not on whether they happen to believe in him/her/it.

a god who sends good and kind people to hell for the sole purpose of not believing him/her/it...is one self centered egomaniac...IMO.

[sleep_not]

eeenk pud. hehe...wala baya ko ni ingon nga mao ra jud na ang rason nganong naay mga tawo
nga wla na mo tuo nya.

@munzter666
eeenk, wrong mistake... you ddnt get my point, kana bang you really thought someone is there for you
but sa tinuod lng ikaw ra diay usa, den you quit believing naay motabang nimo, den i ddnt sed baya nga
c God ang rason nganong ang situation ma worsen. Nisamot ra sya in the sense nga wla xa ni tugma sa
imo gi expect nga mahitabo sa gi ask nimo sa imo prayers.


god who sends good and kind people to hell for the sole purpose of not believing him/her/it...is one self centered egomaniac...IMO.

eeenk pud. your idea is too shallow, Basaha usab imo linya
b kng wala ba ni contradict? how can you consider a person good or kind? who made the standard to
classify good from evil? d ba sa bible mn na? kng ang tawo makapatay kay wla mn xa kabalo nga dili
na maayo, so unsay tawag nimo ana? dili mn cguro nimo ma classify kng wla kay basis unsaon pag ila
sa maayo ug sa dili.

[Kenshiro]

Ken, for argument sakes… you all believe that the bible is/was influenced by ONE…. “One person” meaning, your “god”. I don’t consider him as a supernatural being or person because he simply doesn’t exist. Now do you get my point? You misunderstood my post not that you don’t get it. Besides, I am not convincing you to agree on my statements – not my position to convince people to what my beliefs are (I know one person who does… and most of your kind too ) because it’s your life and not mine. However, when you read, make it simple and easy to understand because if you don't, you will always fall in the same spot.

We are talking about evidences now as being shown by the Jewish people. Don't go back and compare Christians with polythiesm religions.

Tsk… can you read it again please? You misunderstood my point again. What I said, “Conclusive” because the bible said so… sounds clear now?

As I have explained many times. I am not a blind Christian please do understand that I have not in anyways spoken to you “the Bible says so.” I am basing my fact in Evidences of History.

Oh good at least you know a little bit but not quite enough, don’t you agree? History of god’s intervention? Why is it a history in the first place? You see ken, several authors created something reassurance for the people who needed “superman” figure to save them – do you know from what? Even you can create a single prayer out of your need because you want assurance. That’s what they did BUT it doesn’t mean it’s for all people – like you in the Philippines. Wny? It was intended for them and for them alone. Now, why it came to different parts of the world? Blame the invaders, crusaders, messengers and to say the least… the Spaniards.

There you go with that supernatural being created by human imagination. Again you are missing the point. Did a Whole nation “witnessed” God “AT THE SAME TIME”. Not discounting the 12 Apostles who were in fact witnesses as well. And the Prophets centuries apart. The God you are inferring about are the polythiest that are created by ancient Natives. Who is in fact being created by a single man or a few people. Let me put it this way the Bible is a book of witnesses, testimonies, history and prophecies. While the Gods which you referred are created by 1 man or very few people who are inconsistent with each other and are made to be believed blindly.
If the Bible is created by 1 God as what you say. then it is true. Because why do all prophets, apostles and nation talked about the same one God. And also why do prophets centuries apart without any communication have the same experiences, and other consistencies with one another. why do they have common thoughts? and multiple eye witness accounts as well accounted by the apostles. God claimed himself to be a the same God of the old testament. Does the Gods you inferred to other nations written by countless eye witness accounts?

That’s it! Imply other gods does not exist. What does that mean? It’s more like a hyperbole, don’t you think?

I am not demeaning which is which a better God. We as Christians are concerned and more importantly we are not forcing. Unfortunately yes they need to know the truth and the truth will set them free. If you love someone you have to tell them the truth.

Jeez… you didn’t know where your “god” came from? Here I thought you already know these things. Even a grade school kid knows where your god came from hehehe… I guess it’s safe to suggest to read your bible again… don’t you agree? Besides, it’s not shallow… it’s already washed out.

God came from. Heaven. Because The Bible says so, the whole nation as a witness says so, Countless prophets says so, the apostles says so, History says so, Creation Scientific evidence says so. And why do keep comparing the true God to other polythiestic religion which clearly are fable. Greek mythology star constelations as God's? Uhhh I can even see a creature that looks like a unicorn simply by looking at the clouds. That sounds pretty much a fable.

Oh no… Philippines named Philippines 4 centuries ago? Hahahahaha…. Ken, my statement was very clear but your interpretations are way off the charts. Sorry, but Philippines is named after a king… don’t tell me you don’t know this? One clue… 1521. that does not sound like 4th century ago, ken.

Again trying to omit something to hide your wrong claims.

Have you ever read the history that before Philippines named to Philippines, the island/s existed 4th centuries ago? That’s older than the god of Christians

Hehehehe. Im sorry but your statement it is really not understandable. Let me translate it using your statement. You said the “Philippines named to Philippines” I agree with that. But on the next sentence you said the Philippine Islands existed 4th centuries ago? Plus you said that 4 centuries ago is older than Christianity. 2 things are wrong here. Philippine Islands existed 4 centuries ago and Christianity was established less than 4 centuries ago. Did the Philippine Islands just pop out of nowhere 4 centuries ago. I apologize but we Bible believers are good English students to be able to the accurately understand the meaning and thought of the Bible text by which it cannot be compromized in anyway.

Oh I never even learned Philippines was named Philippines I just learned this piece of History in a Chinese history textbook.

Ken, may I suggest a constructive criticism about your reading? Please, please… read it simple. Now, let’s go back… your know, many many people such as yourself Ken thought that the bible is the source of all and one true book of all… others failed because the bible is the “source”. How the world began, animals, people, and so on… does that sound not history for the entire mankind? I would hope that you’re old enough to know this because you seemed to lob a lot of ideas that needs to shuffling. I am not saying Ken that you’re not matured but when you always misunderstood my views.

Again I believe in creationism, because I believed in the Bible. God showed himself to countless witnesses and scientific evidences. And God himself claimed to them that he is the same God of Abraham, Moses, Jonah and Noah, the Israelites during old testament times, prophecies that were fulfilled in great detail and other Christians accounts and reasoning. And there are Millions of Christians around the World. Are you implying that you are smarter than all of these people? I believe in the Bible just because the “Bible says so”. Claiming that to be my Basis is missing the point.

This is what I am telling you, you lob. Your bible classified India, China as gentiles? Classified as Gentiles? Do you think they care about that? Hehehehehe… Ken, I’ve been working here in Hong Kong for several years now and I get a glimpse of their culture and the people… Christianity is less discussed and practiced…. However, I am not implying… it’s their customary beliefs that they are created by their own god. Hehehehe…. What’s the economy got to do with all discussions we make? I don’t get your point. Ken, I would suggest read other cultures first and don’t make assumptions about the whole thing that the bible is the source of everything. Don’t kid yourself, make an effort to know these cultures then we can discuss more about their beliefs.

They don't care about that indeed. But simple theology can do away with that. They should worship God that created them which is reasonably correct. A person can be practicing Christianity in everyday and every moment of his life. Without you knowing it. It is all about principles in life. If God blesses people who are inwardly practicing Christianity how much more noble if a person is openly practicing Christianity inwardly and outwardly.
As you mature as a Christian you cannot but share the great experience that your relationship with God to other people.

I included Chinas economy simply because you included China in your statement.
Unfortunately I cannot go to HongKong just to study their culture because I don't work there. I can say their country must be very prosperous since they have a good economy. And Good people in the government. And also they are a communist-Athiestic Nation. Which is like North Korea. Hmmm...

Don't you know all 1st world countries have the foundations on their constitution based on the ten commandments.

I tell you there will be a better kingdom than HongKong and it is the Kingdom that God that will established here on earth after the end of the World? If you are contented where you are now then unfortunately God as the righteous owner of this world will establish a far superior Kingdom. Well he can do that since he owns the world does that sound logical?

See. This is an assumption. Your bible said that every man came from two people (Adam/Eve). You know, an assumption is the mother of all failures… don’t make one. Know their culture (again) before you LOB your assumptions. Clue… bible (where it came form). India, China… where are they belong?

again I have answered this one on my first statment. After verifying and studying Bible, I believed it. If there are assumptions in my thoughts it wiould be extremely minute.

“Where are they Belong?” Hmmm. Do you mean the land before India was named India. Or Israel. Because the Bible is transcribed by accuracy obsessed scribes of Ancient Israel. If you wanna see the original Bible text it is still existing somewhere in an a museum in Israel.

Primitive? Hahahahaha...

Indeed, so accusing God of punishing innocent nations are being disproven.

Reject the gospel? Ken, first things first… we are not “properly” introduced but I have to tell you a secret… I am an atheist. Somehow… I am now compelled to reject with gospel of your bible… hmmm, when did I agree to that? Pssst… assumptions again, ken.

Yes since your clearly say that you don't believe in God am I right? Or do you believe in God now? Which is which? Make it clear. And are you saying that you are a Bible Believing Athiest? Sheesh you sound confused. Whatever your reasons are you do sound very dumb in your understanding of the Bible. Does that make you an athiest? So if you are go ahead be what you want to be.

Did you know Communist Russia, and Hitler actively practiced Athiesm? Why Hitler because he is a strong follower of the Darwinian principle the law of the Jungle. Their system believed “survival of the fittest” which is the same as the law of the Jungle. They are the ones that promoted world war 2 and capitalizing fear on their citizens Or other nations (in Germany's case). Darwinism is the main principle of Athiesm.

Ken, I don’t need to read your bible – although your verses don’t apply to these cultures. They know Christianity and your god and your jesus christ but as I have said, it’s less discussed and practiced. By the way, Jonah’s story is yet to be proven…. Besides, he didn’t go to China or India, correct?

You don't need to read the Bible. Does that made you an Athiest? I could be wrong since I don't know what kind of belief you have.
About Jonah. First of all with all the witnesses of God in the Bible and lets trace it to the present day Judaism or Muslim belief which are practiced during the time of Moses time until now. Who in fact people and even a whole nation witnessed God and his miracles. Moses was in that time and people as well. Well Israel as a nation inherited the book of Jonah. It was passed down from generation to generation. From his time preserved until now. Historical Ancient Civilizations records are found in this way as well.

Hehehe… again, that’s your bible talking and telling you… I am not created by your god but my parents. You want to know who created my parents? Their parents and their parents’ parents and so on…

But who caused the origins of your birth? The one that designed the humans should be credited for creation. You are manufactured by your parents not created. Hehehe.

well, that’s what they said… their version. You can even create your god through your vision, thus your version is different. I am amazed how they can’t picture “jesus” face through their version by their visions. Funny, wasn’t it?

Again Bible accuracy and other witness accounts. Read the Bible. I don't believe Jesus look like that way in popular portraits anyway. Because there are not much evidence and significance.

Why question the bible’s consistency? Hmmm… I guess you have not seen them, haven’t you? May I suggest to read them carefully. Better yet, try the world wide web.

I cannot make arguments for you. Because I know those inconsistencies can actually be disproven. Can you yourself prov it then? I cannot do the research for you since I have my hands full.

Tsk… can you read it again please? You misunderstood my point again. What I said, “Conclusive” because the bible said so… sounds clear now?

well with that. I have already answered that by the Witness accounts and prophetic accuracy and all the details I included above.

We are like playing ping pong here. My only intention is to share what I can but you seemed not to believe that is not a problem but I do sure hope you will. Don't be blinded by your pride. Athiesm tricks works on self pride.
I have tried Athiesm - its nothing more than a bunch of Philisophical thoughts which is even insignificant in today's modern world. Out of the Box thoughts are more workable. You end up killing yourself in the end if you truly are honest in that practice. And oh Darwinism I tend to keep on beating my nephew because my only thoughts was that I have every rights to do so since I am bigger than him.

[josephdc]

pascal's wager.hehehe

andaming "flaws" nitong wager....that wager did not specify WHICH "god" to believe.
pick the wrong one, and your barbecue.haha

He probably assumed that it's the God of the bible. I've read somewhere that elsewhere in his Pensees he examined the other alternatives to Christianity, like Judaism and Islam, and concluded that if any religion is correct, it must be Christianity. I think that the wager is only meant to argue the reasonableness of "betting" that God exists. As to which God he's talking about, the reader can look at the rest of his writings for his conclusion.

...if this God is a fair and just God as what the literature sez, surely this "GOD" will judge people on their actions in life, not on whether they happen to believe in him/her/it.

I think that God will judge us according to our actions and decisions, and according to what we have done or not done in this life. When we truly believe in him (and not just profess it with our lips or consider it in our minds), and when we acknowledge that he is Love himself, wouldn't that necessarily translate into our actions? That is, wouldn't we become loving in our actions also?

a god who sends good and kind people to hell for the sole purpose of not believing him/her/it...is one self centered egomaniac...IMO.

But God is not someone who arbitrarily sends people to hell for the mere reason that they don't believe (cognitively) in him. He has endowed us with our conscience, to enable us to discern right from wrong; with reason, to enable us to consider prudently our options; and with free will, to enable us to act and make decisions. With free will, we have the power to choose good, but also the power to choose evil. Because we have the power to choose evil, we have the power to disobey God. God is all-good, therefore when we do evil things, we consequently separate ourselves from him. While we are still alive, we have countless opportunities to do good and avoid evil, but if we consistently do evil to the point that it molds our character and we become a person who is characteristically bad, we run the risk of forever being that way, because when we die, we lose our chance of changing ourselves. If we stay forever that way (that is, a bad person) then we would find ourselves somewhere where goodness, beauty, truth, joy and happiness, are absent. That would be "hell", and that would be very painful and horrifying, since that is separation from God.

[Sinyalan]

We are talking about evidences now as being shown by the Jewish people. Don't go back and compare Christians with polytheism religions.

Evidences? Where/what is/are that? Because your bible sez so? By the way, you are the one who is comparing Christians and polytheist beliefs and here you are twisting the idea.

As I have explained many times. I am not a blind Christian please do understand that I have not in anyways spoken to you “the Bible says so.” I am basing my fact in Evidences of History.

I do understand your situation ken but you have not shown how you based these claims about evidences and truths and facts.

There you go with that supernatural being created by human imagination. Again you are missing the point. Did a Whole nation “witnessed” God “AT THE SAME TIME”. Not discounting the 12 Apostles who were in fact witnesses as well. And the Prophets centuries apart.

More like organized scheme… hehehehe.

The God you are inferring about are the polythiest that are created by ancient Natives. Who is in fact being created by a single man or a few people.

Oh? So the people who started this scheme were not polytheists? Sounds like organized scheme again.

Let me put it this way the Bible is a book of witnesses, testimonies, history and prophecies. While the Gods which you referred are created by 1 man or very few people who are inconsistent with each other and are made to be believed blindly.
If the Bible is created by 1 God as what you say.

So, your saying that the other gods or different cultures are false gods? Sounds like comparison between your god as the only god… everything falls behind. Don’t you get tired of making statements that your god is the only god? Also, can you please read the post I wrote because you missed my point again.

then it is true. Because why do all prophets, apostles and nation talked about the same one God. And also why do prophets centuries apart without any communication have the same experiences, and other consistencies with one another. why do they have common thoughts? and multiple eye witness accounts as well accounted by the apostles. God claimed himself to be a the same God of the old testament. Does the Gods you inferred to other nations written by countless eye witness accounts?

To your beliefs it is. But don’t generalize everything that you heard or read that your biblical god is the only god. Why prophets and other nations have the same experiences? Who you are kidding? Have you heard of “hand-me-down” stories? By this, you believe them without witnessing them yourself? Let me ask you, would you believe that your neighbors see ghosts and you would believe them without seeing it yourself? I just wonder how you take stories from different people. My bet you will believe what they say to you.

I am not demeaning which is which a better God. We as Christians are concerned and more importantly we are not forcing. Unfortunately yes they need to know the truth and the truth will set them free. If you love someone you have to tell them the truth.

Hahaha… you think didn’t? This was your statement… kindly read it because this don’t read like “friendly” statement.
People who are worshiping God's other than the true God of the Bible are called idol worshipers since they were just trying to worship something that is not actually what it is.

God came from. Heaven. Because The Bible says so, the whole nation as a witness says so, Countless prophets says so, the apostles says so, History says so, Creation Scientific evidence says so. And why do keep comparing the true God to other polythiestic religion which clearly are fable. Greek mythology star constelations as God's? Uhhh I can even see a creature that looks like a unicorn simply by looking at the clouds. That sounds pretty much a fable.

Came from heaven? Where is heaven ken? Do you know where heaven is, ken? Oh yeah… “because the bible says so…” thought you don’t use this statement ken. First, what’s this “whole nation” thing you are trying to sell here? You mean Israel, as a “whole nation”? You’re kidding right? Are you trying tell me Israel – as a whole witnessed your god? Hahahahaha… I almost fell of the chair when you wrote this ken. Second, creation scientific evidences says so? When did creationism adopted scientific evidences ken? Here I thought that creationists argues about scientific evidences because god made it all with his “magical wand”. Hahahaha. Third, I am not comparing other religions to yours ken, what I am trying to tell you is that other beliefs and cultures believe their own god as their true god. You who is comparing that your god is better than their gods. Don’t you get tired of being self-centeredness? Don’t you even know who the translators of your bible were? Greeks, ken, Greeks. Besides, science debunk them not your god. It’s just a matter of time that your god will be next… wait and see that space collider will debunk your creationist ideals. Lastly, don’t you get tired of comparing your god to other gods? If not, I’d like to hear you say this to the Muslims, Buddhists, Shinto, Hindu… because they don’t think your god is the all powerful god than their gods. I’d like hear this from them that their gods are fiction and are not true.

Oh no… Philippines named Philippines 4 centuries ago? Hahahahaha…. Ken, my statement was very clear but your interpretations are way off the charts. Sorry, but Philippines is named after a king… don’t tell me you don’t know this? One clue… 1521. that does not sound like 4th century ago, ken.
Again trying to omit something to hide your wrong claims.

Originally Posted by ”sinyalan”
Have you ever read the history that before Philippines named to Philippines, the island/s existed 4th centuries ago? That’s older than the god of Christians

Hehehehe. Im sorry but your statement it is really not understandable. Let me translate it using your statement. You said the “Philippines named to Philippines” I agree with that. But on the next sentence you said the Philippine Islands existed 4th centuries ago? Plus you said that 4 centuries ago is older than Christianity. 2 things are wrong here. Philippine Islands existed 4 centuries ago and Christianity was established less than 4 centuries ago. Did the Philippine Islands just pop out of nowhere 4 centuries ago. Oh I never even learned Philippines was named Philippines I just learned this piece of History in a Chinese history textbook.

I’m sorry ken but you didn’t read my statement properly that’s why you get different interpretations and understanding. Try reading it again and watch for symbols… like commas for instance. What? Christianity established less than 4 centuries ago? When was that -1st, 2nd, and 3rd centuries ago? Hahahahaha… where did you get this piece of information ken?

I apologize but we Bible believers are good English students to be able to the accurately understand the meaning and thought of the Bible text by which it cannot be compromized in anyway.

Bible believers are good English students? First, I doubt that statement of yours… because I’ve known people who are less in reading comprehension. Second, “to be able to the accurately understand the meaning and thought of the bible text by which it cannot be compromized in anyway…” – this my friend, is a wrong construction of sentence, grammatically erroneous. Sorry to tell you but I am not sold out that bible believers are good English students – as what you claimed it to be.

[harris]

Ha high..we've gone to far here!!!

[munzter666]

eeenk pud. hehe...wala baya ko ni ingon nga mao ra jud na ang rason nganong naay mga tawo
nga wla na mo tuo nya.

@munzter666
eeenk, wrong mistake... you ddnt get my point, kana bang you really thought someone is there for you
but sa tinuod lng ikaw ra diay usa, den you quit believing naay motabang nimo, den i ddnt sed baya nga
c God ang rason nganong ang situation ma worsen. Nisamot ra sya in the sense nga wla xa ni tugma sa
imo gi expect nga mahitabo sa gi ask nimo sa imo prayers.


god who sends good and kind people to hell for the sole purpose of not believing him/her/it...is one self centered egomaniac...IMO.

eeenk pud. your idea is too shallow, Basaha usab imo linya
b kng wala ba ni contradict? how can you consider a person good or kind? who made the standard to
classify good from evil? d ba sa bible mn na? kng ang tawo makapatay kay wla mn xa kabalo nga dili
na maayo, so unsay tawag nimo ana? dili mn cguro nimo ma classify kng wla kay basis unsaon pag ila
sa maayo ug sa dili.

hey, sleep...

eeenk, wrong mistake... you ddnt get my point, kana bang you really thought someone is there for you
but sa tinuod lng ikaw ra diay usa, den you quit believing naay motabang nimo, den i ddnt sed baya nga
c God ang rason nganong ang situation ma worsen. Nisamot ra sya in the sense nga wla xa ni tugma sa
imo gi expect nga mahitabo sa gi ask nimo sa imo prayers.

now your describing one paranoid fella.hahaha
see, the fella your describing is PISSED at your god coz that fella thought it was something like a GENIE or a fairy grandmother.
face it sleep, that "someone" is considered nonexistent for an atheist.

eeenk pud. your idea is too shallow, Basaha usab imo linya
b kng wala ba ni contradict? how can you consider a person good or kind? who made the standard to
classify good from evil? d ba sa bible mn na? kng ang tawo makapatay kay wla mn xa kabalo nga dili
na maayo, so unsay tawag nimo ana? dili mn cguro nimo ma classify kng wla kay basis unsaon pag ila
sa maayo ug sa dili

contradict? read my post carefully...your the one in mumbojumbo.
how can you consider a person good or kind?? you ask...

tell me sleep, ONLY bible huggers are good and kind? get real.hahaha

who made the standard to
classify good from evil? d ba sa bible mn na?

it couldn't get more judgmental than this sleep.hehehe

you guys put the FUN in FUNdamentalism.