Vajrayana-The Path Royale

[bluedes]

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wala man na nag pagarpar dong, nag react lang na siya sa mga accusations nga walay ebidensiya nga gikan ni Lovely charm ug sa oban nga ni attack sa order and Guru JL. and i think entitled siya ana.

ikaw ang pagarpar. apil apil jud ka, unsa man nikatol napod ng utok niom ngita jud ka ug away?

ngano man suya ka?

react siya ni Lovely Charm by putting up those "Cebuanos lives have not improved"??

like i said, that's a sweeping generalization/condemnation.. maybe you should read again what your colleague's reaction is.. and then you'll see how high and mighty you guys think are with all your hocus-pocus powers.. which is kinda ridiculous..

this is a free forum, the so-called Observer makes a post, so I respond.. apil2x diay tawag ana? If you read carefully, I never said anything against your precious Mr. JL.. because I dont know that Mr. JL, so I have nothing to say about him. I'm merely commenting on what you people say here.. *the full force of karma* shall operate? Mr. JL is responsible for Cebu's economic boom?? parehas man na sa usa ka paranormal group there having witches/wizards battle royale, which is practically all psychologically induced illusions of having magic and some kind of power that is supposed to be supernatural..

wa ko kasabot nimo dong. kung ang TS mag storya about these things wala kay resistance but kung lain na gani grabe kaayo ka maka react.

ka exaggerated pod ani nga storya oi. The Order does not teach harry potter magic like what you want to project.

ang context ana dong is mora ug prayer ba only it is being done in a different way.

sa TS bro, we do not talk of supernatural.. it may sound supernatural, but its not.. the crucial thing that you may have forgotten, is that all these external things are supposed to be discussed in relation to your inner self. Angels, elementals, karma, astral travel, etc... they are not discussed as mere external topics that you use (and abuse), they are discussed in relation to your self and how it will help you in the evolution of your soul. if you use them to your ego's desire, you are misusing them, and it will boil down to a "supernatural" perspective--meaning it does not exist.. illusion ra na nimo na you're talking to your assigned Angel or commanding elementals kuno.

the real issue is not about using them, but how your soul/existence can be of service to them. when you begin to see that, all this ego-trip about having some kind of power will be very very ridiculous jud..

Man is an eternal servant to Nature for as long as Man respects Nature, Nature shall be at Man's "disposal"

if you're ego is dominant, it will be an illusion of the "supernatural"

^ now this is much more fun. maybe this is the full force of karma

@bluedes, it's ok, bro. no need to apologize. just be more honest about it, that it is fun to argue. no more BS please, as malic puts it.

-in the end, there is only ONE- the highlander

ma'am, this is senseless.. i hate arguing.. i just find it fun to poke at people.. and i did not start any BS..

[Peacemaker298]

To occult watcher

Please Mr. Watcher, remain a watcher and there’s nothing to watch because the members of our Order have stopped posting in this blog for the sake of peace. Your motive is not good. And my guru Frater JL doesn’t need your praise, or your help. As you can see, he was not bothered by the criticisms nor will he be swayed by your praises. Your motive is to get, as stated in your post, our highest teachings. Our rules are emphatic. You must begin at the fist lessons. And by your word, “what say you critic?”--your opening again old wounds. Peace is reigning already. And we members have to go on with our normal lives. Don’t open again another controversy Mr. watcher. Don’t be a talker. And by the way Mr. occult watcher, I think what you are saying are all hearsays about Frater JL, stop this. Even us members does not know many things about our guru, frater JL. He is so private. He will never say these things that you are saying.

To Mr. Bluedes,



Thank you for your impartial assessment of our guru, frater JL. You are really a teacher as you said. And please sir naman, the comment ‘full force of karma’ is for us members who have agitated during that time, not for others. It has been explained din in our lodges that if you get angry and your emotions get high, the high blood pressure is already karma. Sir, it is for us po members not to be swayed by our emotions or karma will be hard on us. Negative emotions create negative karma. Again, thank you po sir for that impartial comments on our guru.

For you lovely charm,



Lets bury the past behind na po. Both you and we members will not benefit for another controversy like this. All of us would just suffer. Let’s all have peace and go on our ways. Ma’am peace na po. Ma’am wag po kau pa-sway jan kay occult watcher, bka pinagaaway lang po tayo. Babae rin po ako, wag po tayo pagamit jan kay occult watcher ma’am.

And to you again, Mr. poll watcher, este occult watcher, pls listen to mr bluedes. He is a teacher. So keep your mouth shut. Many heartaches and pains were created by the past controversy in this blog. Live your life! Don’t meddle in other’s affairs and peace also be with you.



To all, peace..As my guru said, humility, humility, humility. Peace.

[miyay]

ot: ^oh, you are not arguing? kilatan gani ka na..hehehe. oh well, sige na nga, you are just poking fun at people. basta enjoy ok ra

the TS left this thread. sayang, i found their posts practical and enlightening...

[bluedes]

To occult watcher

Please Mr. Watcher, remain a watcher and there’s nothing to watch because the members of our Order have stopped posting in this blog for the sake of peace. Your motive is not good. And my guru Frater JL doesn’t need your praise, or your help. As you can see, he was not bothered by the criticisms nor will he be swayed by your praises. Your motive is to get, as stated in your post, our highest teachings. Our rules are emphatic. You must begin at the fist lessons. And by your word, “what say you critic?”--your opening again old wounds. Peace is reigning already. And we members have to go on with our normal lives. Don’t open again another controversy Mr. watcher. Don’t be a talker. And by the way Mr. occult watcher, I think what you are saying are all hearsays about Frater JL, stop this. Even us members does not know many things about our guru, frater JL. He is so private. He will never say these things that you are saying.

To Mr. Bluedes,



Thank you for your impartial assessment of our guru, frater JL. You are really a teacher as you said. And please sir naman, the comment ‘full force of karma’ is for us members who have agitated during that time, not for others. It has been explained din in our lodges that if you get angry and your emotions get high, the high blood pressure is already karma. Sir, it is for us po members not to be swayed by our emotions or karma will be hard on us. Negative emotions create negative karma. Again, thank you po sir for that impartial comments on our guru.

For you lovely charm,



Lets bury the past behind na po. Both you and we members will not benefit for another controversy like this. All of us would just suffer. Let’s all have peace and go on our ways. Ma’am peace na po. Ma’am wag po kau pa-sway jan kay occult watcher, bka pinagaaway lang po tayo. Babae rin po ako, wag po tayo pagamit jan kay occult watcher ma’am.

And to you again, Mr. poll watcher, este occult watcher, pls listen to mr bluedes. He is a teacher. So keep your mouth shut. Many heartaches and pains were created by the past controversy in this blog. Live your life! Don’t meddle in other’s affairs and peace also be with you.



To all, peace..As my guru said, humility, humility, humility. Peace.

See.. that's what I'm talking about.. I've nothing against this Mr. JL person...
Thank you also for your impartial judgment.. And peace be with you.

[bluedes]

To Mr. Bluedes,



Thank you for your impartial assessment of our guru, frater JL. You are really a teacher as you said. And please sir naman, the comment ‘full force of karma’ is for us members who have agitated during that time, not for others. It has been explained din in our lodges that if you get angry and your emotions get high, the high blood pressure is already karma. Sir, it is for us po members not to be swayed by our emotions or karma will be hard on us. Negative emotions create negative karma. Again, thank you po sir for that impartial comments on our guru.


To all, peace..As my guru said, humility, humility, humility. Peace.

in further response, I'd like to apologize for my defense-mechanism reaction.. sorry po.. yun lang..

[regnauld]

Jiddu Krishnamurti came out from the Society. In the Golden stairs HPB mentioned about the importance of a Guru.

are you greater than HPB reg?

sorry dong but i can't help this anymore i have to speak out, im tired of your know it all ATTITUDE.

lets do this...i love Theosophy but it seems to me that you guys don't understand the word Brotherhood, tolerance...you are wasting all your stored knowledge.

Don't get me wrong brother! I'm sorry if you feel that way and I don't even say that its me who said that GURU CANNOT AWAKEN YOU...i just simply read it from J. Krishnamurti and there is nothing wrong with that!

Di ba I said Yes she or he is right that gurus are important and so is J. KRISHNAMURTI because that's the whole concept of TRUTH....arriving at WHOLENESS and not one sided argument!

Hope you will understand my position brother Malic. I'm not a fanatic in Theosophy but rather a lover of wisdom which is holistic and integral!

Sorry if you misintepret me or misunderstood me. I'm just using my Critical Thinking or whatever you may call but never fanaticism even in Theosophy!

Let's play and enjoy life Malic! The gods are there playing football!

Pax

[regnauld]

@Regnauld
Hoy regnauld pinapahiya muna naman yung society mo sa kabila ha,

Hi everyone im back,,sori po for delayed telecast at sori sa lahat ng nabanga ko,
i should have gatherd my evidence first before lashing out my claims,,hmmp

And when i have it na i will joyfully share it sa lahat,,sa lahat ng my cognitive dissonance who created a fictional storey of your "swami" nice try but its so cheeezzzyyy & ka cheapen to the max!

be back soon & thanx be to swami for a prosperous cebu & long live harry potter!

@ bluedes
wizard din ang yaya mo?

Hoy inday michelle...musta na? long time no see but now shiny! hehehe

BTW, inday michelle with due respect to this thread, I am just exercising my FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION because this is not a communist country and it does not mean that when I express myself I am already against somebody or enemy to others. Bear in mind, we are always searching for the TRUTH and the society does not even claim that it has arrived at the TRUTH because TRUTH is evolving as it should, di ba Inday Michelle? What do you think?

With due respect and in fairness to you Inday Michelle, I like your attitude of being maldita and super taray because that will also make me ponder where I went wrong or maybe where you went wrong also. In fairness, you are good only that I feel that people are not comfortable with your being maldita and super taray but then again you are still good! Keep it up your being maldita and suoper taray! I hope its not showing in the real world but only your social mask here in istorya.net!

[Malic]

supernatural does not exist in TS.. you should know that by now.. all the masters of the white brotherhood do not even acknowledge any supernatural entity.. no such entity exists.. it can be explained thru scientific ways.. and not just physical/material science, but also metaphysical science.. but the explanation will be beyond our current state of knowledge..

i never believe in any "supernatural" presented by TS unless I am able to verify it myself which makes it not supernatural anymore.. precisely the reason why i chose science over hocus-pocus..

what do you mean supernatural does not exist in TS?

what about the theosophical prinicple of man having different bodies that exist in different planes( etheric,astral,causal) and the lesson about the power of thoughts? these are teachings that clearly indicate that TS believes in the supernatural. let me quote lesson 9 titled THE POWER OF THOUGHT from the book Introductory Study Course in Theosophy by Emogene S. Simons, "Even the causal thinker may come sufficiently in contact with such phenomena as thought transference and other evidences of E.S.P...."

review Annie Beasant's Thought Power and its control and culture chapter 3 thought tranference

it doesnt matter what you believe, ang teaching sa TS is what we are after.

we are told that thoughts can influence matter and energies. if that's the case then these people who radiates thoughts of protection,propserity, peace, love and etc. could have influenced the rage of bagyong ondoy and made it stop. don't you think? then apil pod ang mga christians, ga ampo pod to sila ato nga panahon. so with all these energies pointed to one intention so there was a great possibility nga naa toy effect.

i'm not a fishing for a fight.. i'm merely commenting on someone else's posts here.. if you have a problem with that, then comment back with reason, and not throwing such empty insinuations. duhhhh..

i guess you're also fanatically defending or upholding this order.. and seems your ego is very bruised.. well, sorry na lng, but i have my stand or principles against such posts. no such exclusivity makes anyone higher than anybody.. in fact, such exclusivity only makes one lower..

rather than your one sentence response, which are literally going nowhere, you could at least justify your stand by explanation.. but you're not even explaining anything.. so try again and explain..

oh yes you are fishing for a fight. and i did comment back. ayaw sige ug binata dong.

my ego is bruised? go ahead comfort yourself with those words, hahaha. my one sentence response signifies that I have no intention of lowering myself to your baser self. no need for explanation dong. I can see clearly now what you are really made of.

yes i am fanatically defending this Order like the way you are fanatically defending your BELIEF, sorry dong binata ra kaayo ng style nimo.

[Malic]

react siya ni Lovely Charm by putting up those "Cebuanos lives have not improved"??

like i said, that's a sweeping generalization/condemnation.. maybe you should read again what your colleague's reaction is.. and then you'll see how high and mighty you guys think are with all your hocus-pocus powers.. which is kinda ridiculous..

this is a free forum, the so-called Observer makes a post, so I respond.. apil2x diay tawag ana? If you read carefully, I never said anything against your precious Mr. JL.. because I dont know that Mr. JL, so I have nothing to say about him. I'm merely commenting on what you people say here.. *the full force of karma* shall operate? Mr. JL is responsible for Cebu's economic boom?? parehas man na sa usa ka paranormal group there having witches/wizards battle royale, which is practically all psychologically induced illusions of having magic and some kind of power that is supposed to be supernatural..

so? ngano man diay kong mo react siya? entitled man siya ana? as a theosophist unta if you truly believe sa "brotherhood brotherhood" you could have let it pass na lang. pero di jud, react jud kay igo man imong ego nga feeling high and mighty pod.

review your post dong kung wala ba kay bati nga comment. you know very well what kind of reaction you get if you used words like BS, hocus pocus and others.

ako for the past days I shut up kay di ko gusto mo apil then nag pasalamt ko nga nahilom na...nya post dayun si regnauld ug ikaw,sus balik na pod ang away. hilom na lang oi, ayaw na sigeg yaw yaw.

sa TS bro, we do not talk of supernatural.. it may sound supernatural, but its not.. the crucial thing that you may have forgotten, is that all these external things are supposed to be discussed in relation to your inner self. Angels, elementals, karma, astral travel, etc... they are not discussed as mere external topics that you use (and abuse), they are discussed in relation to your self and how it will help you in the evolution of your soul. if you use them to your ego's desire, you are misusing them, and it will boil down to a "supernatural" perspective--meaning it does not exist.. illusion ra na nimo na you're talking to your assigned Angel or commanding elementals kuno.

and? you think that ang teaching sa Order about supernatural is pareho anang harry potter magic? investigate first, donh before ka mo accuse of something bati.

the real issue is not about using them, but how your soul/existence can be of service to them. when you begin to see that, all this ego-trip about having some kind of power will be very very ridiculous jud..

Man is an eternal servant to Nature for as long as Man respects Nature, Nature shall be at Man's "disposal"

if you're ego is dominant, it will be an illusion of the "supernatural"

im sorry, i rather listen to people nga dugay na sa mysticism and have acheived a certain adeptness but salamt sa imong lesson.

[regnauld]

so? ngano man diay kong mo react siya? entitled man siya ana? as a theosophist unta if you truly believe sa "brotherhood brotherhood" you could have let it pass na lang. pero di jud, react jud kay igo man imong ego nga feeling high and mighty pod.

review your post dong kung wala ba kay bati nga comment. you know very well what kind of reaction you get if you used words like BS, hocus pocus and others.

ako for the past days I shut up kay di ko gusto mo apil then nag pasalamt ko nga nahilom na...nya post dayun si regnauld ug ikaw,sus balik na pod ang away. hilom na lang oi, ayaw na sigeg yaw yaw.





and? you think that ang teaching sa Order about supernatural is pareho anang harry potter magic? investigate first, donh before ka mo accuse of something bati.





im sorry, i rather listen to people nga dugay na sa mysticism and have acheived a certain adeptness but salamt sa imong lesson.

@ brother Malic

I think IMHO, we are here to express our inner most thoughts and feelings because I believe in the search for TRUTH, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION is the hallmark of spirituality and not suppression or repression in the case of communism and dogmatism in religion!

Peace brother!