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  1. #11

    both are correct.. the problem with the bible is that it was passed on generation to generation thru oral tradition.. mura gud og tsismis where in the end ma usab jud ang message.. the bible is more of a history book..

    scientific phenomenon are described by our ancestors as what they see them or as how they percieve them.. for instance lightning and rain.. they didnt really understand those things way back then..

    wala bya gi explain ang mga dinosours.. i think ang bones sa dinosours mao basis sa dragons..

    in the book genesis, naghisgot ni sila og giants who made love to our women? kinsa naa idea unsa meaning ani? kinsa man ni mga giants? in a very vague way. murag naa jud nangawas ma aliens adto nga time? ambot... well never know

    in the book of revelations, i think the author has no idea back then what is a nuclear bomb and radiation.. but murag naghishot man cya about a mountain crashing to earth.. sounds like a meteor nuh?

    we should not only study the christian bible.. we should study all the literature of the ancients. there is knowledge and wisdom to be gained from the experiences of our forefathers..

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    both are correct.. the problem with the bible is that it was passed on generation to generation thru oral tradition.. mura gud og tsismis where in the end ma usab jud ang message.. the bible is more of a history book..

    scientific phenomenon are described by our ancestors as what they see them or as how they percieve them.. for instance lightning and rain.. they didnt really understand those things way back then..

    wala bya gi explain ang mga dinosours.. i think ang bones sa dinosours mao basis sa dragons..

    in the book genesis, naghisgot ni sila og giants who made love to our women? kinsa naa idea unsa meaning ani? kinsa man ni mga giants? in a very vague way. murag naa jud nangawas ma aliens adto nga time? ambot... well never know

    in the book of revelations, i think the author has no idea back then what is a nuclear bomb and radiation.. but murag naghishot man cya about a mountain crashing to earth.. sounds like a meteor nuh?

    we should not only study the christian bible.. we should study all the literature of the ancients. there is knowledge and wisdom to be gained from the experiences of our forefathers..
    I could not agree more. The problem is ideological groups have divided themselves on defined belief systems. They will not, can not, accept that their concept may be misguided or misdirected. All other groups must be wrong so they can be proven correct. They believe they are smarter than the other groups. They must be smarter, and can not compromise one centimeter or they will be devastated.

    The truth is they are all correct and equally wrong, they are just too damn proud or self righteous to admit it. That makes them all blinded bigots of self righteous ignorance, and should all be ignored. They actually have lost their ability to use critical thinking, and would be total failures as real scientist. A scientist must be able to take all data and still be able to think both outside AND INSIDE THE BOX at the same time. No real science was invented by Yes Men and Followers, they were all that were able to stand firm in the middle against both opposing views. Few can do that, to be a true thinker, and not just following fools who like to just hear them selves talk, and the bigger fools who follow because they do not have the intellect or nerve to actually think for themselves. Most men are sheep, followers off that cliff and gladly falling into the abyss of shared self inflicted ignorance. True pioneers refuse to follow the herd and decide to walk their own paths, and always at the behest of the skeptics who think them fools. They are fools who become heros by not following the fools of the herds. Welcome to the world of the mental trailblazers and may you never be hindered by the sheep of this world, that 99.5% of the world who are just disillusioned followers of those that do the real thinking for them.

  3. #13
    para nko mas correct ang science.......para nko lng....makahuna2 ko usahay nga ang religion cguro sauna kay tribe or cult lng cguro...kung unsa ilang mkit.an nga dili nila ma explain ila daun tawagon nga miracles. maka huna2 sad ko nga kana si jesus ordinaryo ra na nga taw...nga naay extraordinary nga talent or skills...na brainwash lng jud cguro ang mga taw sauna mao nang mutuo sila..... dili pa bya sila civilized jud......

    kung ato i relate sa karon kay di ba ma amazed ta or maka idolize ta ug taw nga kana gani naay extraordinary nga talent or skills how much more kadto sauna nga unsa pa ang level sa ilahang pangutok.......

    nya ang bible sad pinili.an na man na ang naka suwat dira......ang katong mga books nga nag state ug mga butang nga against sa church kay wa man gi apil......ang story kay murag pang brainwash sa utok sa taw......murag concentrated ra kau ang story about sa heaven, jesus, God.....wala jud kau nag state about story sa devil, satan, hell mao nang lisud kau katuhuan

    pero ang story kay nakatabang man pud sa pag shape sa kinabuhi sa mga taw....tungod ana mkblo ang taw sa saup or sakto.........hehe

  4. #14
    Both are Correct, its just that Science still cannot explain some facts in the Bible...

  5. #15
    ok. here's my take on the topic:

    the Bible was written at a time when people knew nothing about germs or atoms; when they thought the earth was flat; when they believed that an animal like a snake can ACTUALLY talk; and last but not the least, that the earth is less than 10,000 years old created by some man with magical powers who claims to be supernatural. the authors of the Bible are forgivable because they knew nothing much during their time, so it is justifiable if they end up making stories. but we know a lot today because of scientific breakthroughs, so to actually say that the Bible is correct is UNFORGIVABLE.

    now, i know a lot of you here will disagree with me (especially the TS), but of course if you really think the Bible and science could be both correct, then it's up to you.
    Last edited by chad_tukes; 11-02-2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason: TYPO

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    ok. here's my take on the topic:

    the Bible was written at a time when people knew nothing about germs or atoms; when they thought the earth was flat; when they believed that an animal like a snake can ACTUALLY talk; and last but not the least, that the earth is less than 10,000 years old created by some man with magical powers who claims to be supernatural. the authors of the Bible are forgivable because they knew nothing much during their time, so it is justifiable if they end up making stories. but we know a lot today because of scientific breakthroughs, so to actually say that the Bible is correct is UNFORGIVABLE.

    now, i know a lot of you here will disagree with me (especially the TS), but of course if you really think the Bible and science could be both correct, then it's up to you.
    The only real conflict between science and the bible is the time event, but if the scripture's 31 sentences compressed what science today have comprised in over 200,000 volumes. And mirrors that modern library, yet written over 2,000 years before the science. That if the Biblical text is properly read and understood, and explains the proper events of the Big Bag, creation of the universe, creation of Earth, Einstein's Theory of Relativity, and Dark energy.

    Then if a man believes that the writing of these 31 sentences is amazing, and written inspired by the Creator, and that act be considered UNFORGIVABLE. Than may I be unforgivable in your eyes and to the world. The one who inspired that book says I will be forgiven for my belief, and that good enough for me.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    There's one group in the states that dinosaurs and man coexisted...whew!..what kind of stuff these guys have been sniffing on..
    wew, must be a new update... check that out why! had they gone mad? hehehe! those people are re-examining rejects in evolution to prove evolution is wrong.

    Again, evolution drops it when it does not support its claims... at all costs. Many times they lied and you believed.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    both are correct.. the problem with the bible is that it was passed on generation to generation thru oral tradition.. mura gud og tsismis where in the end ma usab jud ang message.. the bible is more of a history book..

    scientific phenomenon are described by our ancestors as what they see them or as how they percieve them.. for instance lightning and rain.. they didnt really understand those things way back then..

    wala bya gi explain ang mga dinosours.. i think ang bones sa dinosours mao basis sa dragons..

    in the book genesis, naghisgot ni sila og giants who made love to our women? kinsa naa idea unsa meaning ani? kinsa man ni mga giants? in a very vague way. murag naa jud nangawas ma aliens adto nga time? ambot... well never know

    in the book of revelations, i think the author has no idea back then what is a nuclear bomb and radiation.. but murag naghishot man cya about a mountain crashing to earth.. sounds like a meteor nuh?

    we should not only study the christian bible.. we should study all the literature of the ancients. there is knowledge and wisdom to be gained from the experiences of our forefathers..
    Wrong analogy brad. You tell me.. if mag padala ka snail mail... to the farthest it can go... dont tell me your thought/letter would change... hahaha!

    the difference between tsismis and writings are... tsismis changes from one person to another... writings changes through translations. Becareful, your example is comparing apple and bananas... tsk tsk tsk.

    for instance lightning and rain.. they didnt really understand those things way back then..
    --- bible is not science book that explains phenomenon... well science tells us the numbers of stars... bible did before science... but that does not explain how.

    in the book of revelations, i think the author has no idea back then what is a nuclear bomb and radiation.. but murag naghishot man cya about a mountain crashing to earth.. sounds like a meteor nuh?
    --- unsa? hmmm, mao ni sayop basta ma translate sa mga ngilngig! asa ni na verse brad? mountain crashing to earth.. dba na cya landslide? hmmmm i wonder why the analogy become out of this world... hmmmm why nuclear? hahaha! ka alegre.

    wala bya gi explain ang mga dinosours.. i think ang bones sa dinosours mao basis sa dragons..
    --- e search google brad, BEHEMOTH.


    in the book genesis, naghisgot ni sila og giants who made love to our women? kinsa naa idea unsa meaning ani? kinsa man ni mga giants? in a very vague way. murag naa jud nangawas ma aliens adto nga time? ambot... well never know
    --- Return of the Nephilim. Discoveries of giant bones of the antediluvian hybrids of fallen angels and women
    --- where are the evidence... we can speculate two...
    1. Its a Hoax.
    2. Cover up. (if proven true, no other religion can stand against the Bible Claims. There are just so much evidence it is REAL, and never proven wrong. I also think its not the right time to reveal those yet... we haven't secured our salvation...)

    we should not only study the christian bible.. we should study all the literature of the ancients.
    --- you can believe in Atlas carrying the world... but don't tell us its true. careful on ancient text, they are long been disproven true... most of them. If some people can settle for a lie, well its a choice, try harder to convince us... right now there is no material evidence that we are wrong in what we believe in, yea we can tell you YOU ARE WRONG!

    want to contest?

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by borge_009 View Post
    para nko mas correct ang science.......para nko lng....makahuna2 ko usahay nga ang religion cguro sauna kay tribe or cult lng cguro...kung unsa ilang mkit.an nga dili nila ma explain ila daun tawagon nga miracles. maka huna2 sad ko nga kana si jesus ordinaryo ra na nga taw...nga naay extraordinary nga talent or skills...na brainwash lng jud cguro ang mga taw sauna mao nang mutuo sila..... dili pa bya sila civilized jud......

    kung ato i relate sa karon kay di ba ma amazed ta or maka idolize ta ug taw nga kana gani naay extraordinary nga talent or skills how much more kadto sauna nga unsa pa ang level sa ilahang pangutok.......

    nya ang bible sad pinili.an na man na ang naka suwat dira......ang katong mga books nga nag state ug mga butang nga against sa church kay wa man gi apil......ang story kay murag pang brainwash sa utok sa taw......murag concentrated ra kau ang story about sa heaven, jesus, God.....wala jud kau nag state about story sa devil, satan, hell mao nang lisud kau katuhuan

    pero ang story kay nakatabang man pud sa pag shape sa kinabuhi sa mga taw....tungod ana mkblo ang taw sa saup or sakto.........hehe
    allow me to point out my pov brad..share nako nmo...

    Bible can stand on its own... Science affirms the bible.

    there is no conflict with science and bible. Only Theories and Bible.

    If people consider theory as science, its like convicting a suspect a criminal without due process.

    Theory needs to be examined if it can support its claim. Unfortunately most of those who oppose the bible is having a millions of problem. Upto now never had been answered.

    Christianity becomes vague, as it was written. Satan came to steal, kill, and to destroy. Religion becomes a politics as time went by... science become the more acceptable body for it does not limit to any religious belief.

    Conclusion:

    Bible is not about science nor it conflict science.
    Science is not about moral.

    You can have both and be subject to Goodness, or you can have science and subject to your own freewill. In the end its about your race... Gud day.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    ok. here's my take on the topic:

    the Bible was written at a time when people knew nothing about germs or atoms; when they thought the earth was flat; when they believed that an animal like a snake can ACTUALLY talk; and last but not the least, that the earth is less than 10,000 years old created by some man with magical powers who claims to be supernatural. the authors of the Bible are forgivable because they knew nothing much during their time, so it is justifiable if they end up making stories. but we know a lot today because of scientific breakthroughs, so to actually say that the Bible is correct is UNFORGIVABLE.

    now, i know a lot of you here will disagree with me (especially the TS), but of course if you really think the Bible and science could be both correct, then it's up to you.
    "the Bible was written at a time when people knew nothing about germs or atoms;"
    Leviticus 11:9 'These you may eat, whatever is in the water: all that have fins and scales, those in the water, in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat.
    --- because of germs? how can u find a cookbook in the bible? there is no HOW only commandments and morality. tsk tsk tsk.

    when they thought the earth was flat
    --- ends of the earth? is it literal?
    --- the world is circle? is round not circle? translation? i dont know. But who would thought its circle/round? they havent discovered america at that time. hhahaha!

    when they believed that an animal like a snake can ACTUALLY talk;
    --- who told you snake can talk? is serpent a snake? cge bya ko storya aning mga serepente... hahah! jok

    that the earth is less than 10,000 years old created by some man with magical powers who claims to be supernatural
    --- Did the bible tells us its 10,000? hmmm, its the creationist theory chad. again its a theory. By the way the claim said... its between 6k-10k AFTER ADAM SIN. BEFORE ADAM SIN, NO DATA!

    the authors of the Bible are forgivable because they knew nothing much during their time, so it is justifiable if they end up making stories
    --- what do you mean forgivable? so do you mean to say its ok they make up stories? well thier stories tells us, so many correct things why do they have to be forgiven? false testimony? what testimony? hmmm. wa japon chad, nothing happens... blabbing? blah blah blah... tsk tsk tsk...

    but we know a lot today because of scientific breakthroughs
    --- we enjoy those breakthrough's chad, Actually i am typing in a computer now. Sad to say i don't find a relevance why my faith conflicts with this breakthroughs! have you been thinking lately chad?


    I hope your religion does not permit you to do the right thing! (as n moral grounds). Science does not teach moral by the way.

    So far I don't see any problem with science and bible, only you and bible.

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