Catholic Church, Corruption and Morality

[randy111979]

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Para sa ako lang ha, di na gani ka maminaw sa tambag sa mga tawo nga gi consider nimo nga mga spiritual advisers, wa na gyud nila sila respetuhi.

Besides wala man mag comment ang bishops about how GMA should run the country. Niingon ba ang mga bishops, hoy GMA ayaw nba buhata kay supak na sa balaod sa simbahan. Or hoy GMA dapat si kuwan imo i appoint or dapat mao ni balaod imo ipapasar. Ang giingo lang sa bishops na "truth must come out of the Garci issue". Dautan na diay karon ang mnagita sa kamatooran?

Kung dili mo mouyon sa bishops i argue in a manner nga dignified dili kay biay iayon ninyo just because wa mo kauyon. Binastos naman gud ang ubang comment. Ang lisud ani pati bishops dili na pasultihun kung ang isulti not good to the ears of GMA. We ceased to become a democracy where everybody's voice is heard.

Some bishops and some priests are very vocal in their standpoint. Those are the targets of the attack. Since we lookup to them, they should be very tact in what they say publicly.

We ceased to become a democracy where everybody's voice is heard.

If you mean the other way around, i am not sure if "everbody" is saying the same thing.

[mosimos]

Unsa man nga klase sa pag ka vocal sa mga bishops nga deserve to be publicly humiliated. Kubng moingon sila nga Truth must come out, "ridiculous" diay na as one poster would say it?

Kung gusto ka ug kamatooran, ridiculous diay ka nga pag katawo? Tell me.

[FK]

I wouldn't be suprise someday the CBCP would be called destabilizers.

[randy111979]

Unsa man nga klase sa pag ka vocal sa mga bishops nga deserve to be publicly humiliated. Kubng moingon sila nga Truth must come out, "ridiculous"diay na as one poster would say it?

Kung gusto ka ug kamatooran, ridiculous diay ka nga pag katawo? Tell me.

bro. your jumping into conclusions. you have your own interpretation of what he said. we don't know anything about the person commenting nor what he meant nor what he was pertaining to.

we have to investigate on this. we just can't jump into conclusions because of "abi nako" or "i thought".

[FK]

we have to investigate on this. we just can't jump into conclusions because of "abi nako" or "i thought".

that's what specifically the bishop said... dapat mahibaw-an jud ang tinuod... but onsa ang reaction sa uban? Dapat dili mangilabot ang bishop sa politics... what? ni ingon kaha sila ani pag panahon ni ERAP og ni Marcos? or karon lang kay si GMA ang gitira? double standard?

[randy111979]

I wouldn't be suprise someday the CBCP would be called destabilizers.

OT: Bai FK! Musta.

[randy111979]

we have to investigate on this. we just can't jump into conclusions because of "abi nako" or "i thought".

that's what specifically the bishop said... dapat mahibaw-an jud ang tinuod... but onsa ang reaction sa uban? Dapat dili mangilabot ang bishop sa politics... what? ni ingon kaha sila ani pag panahon ni ERAP og ni Marcos? or karon lang kay si GMA ang gitira? double standard?

Hahahahaha. I was referring to the statement "ridiculus". hahahaha.

[randy111979]

By the way, searching for the truth is not being ridiculous.

[gareb]

oh the CBCP has had it's own labels during the Marcos times until now.

or perhaps u people haven't seen the news last year of how your feeling-goody-goody-than priests Armed Forces of the Philippines accused the CBCP of supporting the Communist Party of the Philippines?

that had me laughing. conservatives at each other's throats. what a sight. i do not know how more wrong can the AFP's intelligence be, after that. and to think their budget is increased every year...

the CBCP's polemics about truth, love, justice, and just about every other virtue, although well intended of course simply does not push for an active and concrete solution; an effective, viable plan. instead it places the decision on the soulders of the people.

that is not bad in itself, but taken into context where it is happening, where the country is hopelessly divided into essentially, the anti-, the pro- and the whocares, the CBCP's advocay and lack of specific recomendations for concrete action is simply useless and without teeth.

it cannot place the nation under the banners of TRUTH or JUSTICE only for it to move and do something, because we already know what happened. the problem is how we see happened, not if they happened at the first place. the usual variety of machiavellian cynicism and apathy is here. the CBCP fails to mention how truth is used and misused by people of differing and opposing interests;

it is simply interest(class, political, personal, or a combination of either three) that differs, not on what is true or just. therefore this should have been the point of departure of the CBCP, not morals and virtues. the interest of the people as a unit as opposed to those that hold (and want to maintain) political power (not to mention those who want to grab it again). they have already defined what the people want with their polemics of morals and virtues. what is missing is to pull it down from the abstract world into concrete reality of concrete steps, stand and actions.

[nindotkanon]

as I can remember, sa Bible ang mga Bishops or priest ang against kaayo sa atong manunubos.

Asa na sa Bible, bay?

Wala pa may bishops sa panahon nga gi-persecute si Hesukristo didto sa Herusalem. Kadto pong mga priests nga ni-persecute ni Kristo kay mga Hudeo man tawon to; dili to Katoliko.

thats why I said or priest is a priest, whats the difference? its like teachers, ma high school, college or elementary teachers, the same ra na! Peace!
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