MERGED: South Road Properties (SRP) News, Issues, and Developments

[giddyboy]

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EXACTLY! Mao bitaw hilas ra kaayo si PJ magpalimpyo-effect mura baya ug wala sila'y mga transactions galing lang naa lagi sila aligutgot ni tomas. let's just say tinuod ang buslot ilang nakita ni tomas wala lagi sila'y moral authority and kahibaw man ta sa ilang motibo.

nya gatuo pud diay ka nga limpyo c Tomas? LOLs

kanang mga Congressman pre kung mo file ug complaint sa House dili mana pasabot nga ngpaka limpyo- effect...in fact most likely grandstanding effect paman gani...LOLs

we also know that this will go away if Tomas will make the Ciudad project among their other rifts, go away.

i don't think so. ayaw ko ingna nga kung ma OK na ang Ciudad project, moingon nlng c PJ sa House hearing, "Your honor, I will recant my statements and not anymore pursue w/ the FLI investigation coz OK na mi ni Tomas." LOLs...the fact that gi duso na ang mga complaint papers, dili nana mabawi for some wierd reasons.

but PJ bringing this to Congress is just too far regardless of his reason and motive kay ang tibuok Cebu ang ma-alaut ani.

really? tibuok Cebu gyud? how about ma-alaut ang Cebu kung walay imbistigasyon, ma push thru ang FLI, nya later na ma found out to be anomalous gyud? i will tell u, ang alaut ra gyud aning investigation is City hall and FLI (and those blind loyalists of Tomas)...uwaw baya...LOLs

Should the controversial Joint Venture Agreement between the city and FLI for dev't of some portions of the SRP be terminated as a result of a House inquiry, the city and FLI only have themselves to blame.

If the House Inquiry will lead to the termination of the agreement, dili tingali si REp PJ ang sad-an niini kun dili ang naghimo niini (agreement). Kinsa man ang nagsuwat sa maong provision? Dili man ang kapitolyo, dili man ang congressman kun dili sila ra.

moreover, kung naa gyu'y ngipon inyang accusation, adto unta sa korte dili sige siya ug pa-pogi points iyang dangas ug lagum na nawong on nationwide TV.
be ready for another textbook explanation here...

how can u even bring to court an issue about legislation? LOLs...

just like any big case that could affect us in the national level, like the Piatco case for instance, most likely mag una gyud na sa Congress inquiry before mo trickle down to the courts. just like sa NBN-ZTE case. just like sa Spratlys case. (im not a lawyer so correct me lng if im wrong)

and simple logic will tell us that if a complaint is deemed improper in the House, ma dismiss gyud na. and this is not even a textbook argument. it's plain common sense.

one point raised against the FLI deal is that it allegedly violated of the Public Land Law when it sold a 10.6 –hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP) to FLI without Congressional authority, and the alleged violation of the Constitution, which prohibits the sale of lands of the public domain.

u read the highlighted phrase?

wala diay ka nka kita sa ngipon sa accusations ni PJ sa Congress? LOLs...nka paak naman gani...LOLs

dili man sab ta bogo nga wala kakita nga retaliation pud na against Tomas...but to determine if PJ's retaliatory move is material or not (relevant or not) to the FLI complaint or whether sakto ba na nga venue, it is up to the House...that's another common sense.

i will expect nlng another ad hominem or squid tactic from u...LOLs

[LytSlpr]

how can u even bring to court an issue about legislation? LOLs...

just like any big case that could affect us in the national level, like the Piatco case for instance, most likely mag una gyud na sa Congress inquiry before mo trickle down to the courts. just like sa NBN-ZTE case. just like sa Spratlys case. (im not a lawyer so correct me lng if im wrong)

and simple logic will tell us that if a complaint is deemed improper in the House, ma dismiss gyud na. and this is not even a textbook argument. it's plain common sense.

one point raised against the FLI deal is that it allegedly violated of the Public Land Law when it sold a 10.6 –hectare portion of the South Road Properties (SRP) to FLI without Congressional authority, and the alleged violation of the Constitution, which prohibits the sale of lands of the public domain.

that's where you are wrong, unlike the other issues you mentioned, the SRP does not concern the national level. you should know the reason why, keyword is funds. on the other hand, ang capitol hilig kaayo mo sakay sa mga national projects for Cebu which is very misleading.

if i were an LGU and have a project of this magnitude in mind, di na lang ko uy because tungod sa kadako sa project, daghan ma-inggit ug daghan mo sakay human pangita-an ug daghan buslot unya dad-on dayon sa kongreso. let's face it sa tinuod lang whatever project, private or government, daghan man gyud ug buslot kung pangita-an gyud.

secondly, if PJ as a lawyer saw this legal loophole, i bet he knew about this before but never said a word. prior to the FLI deal, we already know that SRP lots are to be sold but he just kept his mouth shut because he would make it a bargaining chip for their own projects or simply he just wants in on the deal but to no avail just like the other "recycled losers". of course, he won't recant but he will just drop the issue like a hot potato, everybody happy and it's just like another day at the workplace. in short, ma-railroad then eventually ma whitewash. after the issue has taken so much time on ANC, people like me would just say, "na-unsa na gani to'ng kasuha?" TOINK!

this is a Cebu problem and should have never been brought to Congress for all the right logical, moral and even legal reasons. if you are still reading your textbook i suggest you drop it and think about the bigger, realistic picture and the motives and the possibilities. bottomline, we all know why PJ wanted ugly face time in Congress and it is not good for everybody, whichever side you are on.

[giddyboy]

that's where you are wrong, unlike the other issues you mentioned, the SRP does not concern the national level. you should know the reason why, keyword is funds. on the other hand, ang capitol hilig kaayo mo sakay sa mga national projects for Cebu which is very misleading.

i am only citing national cases to make a point. i know SRP is a local matter but didn't u read what is highlighted in my post? it says it has to have a Congressional authority first!

if i were an LGU and have a project of this magnitude in mind, di na lang ko uy because tungod sa kadako sa project, daghan ma-inggit ug daghan mo sakay human pangita-an ug daghan buslot unya dad-on dayon sa kongreso. let's face it sa tinuod lang whatever project, private or government, daghan man gyud ug buslot kung pangita-an gyud.

if i were an LGU and have a project of this magnitude in mind, tarongon gyud nako ug dala ang transaction and make sure wala ba gyuy paglabag sa balaud! op kors, tanan project, private or gov't, is not perfect. naay gyuy buslot whether minor or major in some other ways. pero saunz, major man ang nakit-an!!!

secondly, if PJ as a lawyer saw this legal loophole, i bet he knew about this before but never said a word. prior to the FLI deal, we already know that SRP lots are to be sold but he just kept his mouth shut

what if he really did? is that a problem? remember he belongs to the opposition. and do u really think he can easily get a copy of the draft FLI deal in the first place? think, think, think.

of course, he won't recant but he will just drop the issue like a hot potato, everybody happy and it's just like another day at the workplace. in short, ma-railroad then eventually ma whitewash. after the issue has taken so much time on ANC, people like me would just say, "na-unsa na gani to'ng kasuha?" TOINK!

only ur opinion...

this is a Cebu problem and should have never been brought to Congress for all the right logical, moral and even legal reasons. if you are still reading your textbook i suggest you drop it and think about the bigger, realistic picture and the motives and the possibilities. bottomline, we all know why PJ wanted ugly face time in Congress and it is not good for everybody, whichever side you are on.

if u r still opaw from the "Welcome back Tomas" mania, i suggest u drop your sour-graping on PJ and stick to the real issues at hand which is the anomalous FLI deal...

don't even think this will only be a Cebu problem. coz if other LGUs will copycat to what this FLI deal has gone thru, u will think otherwise. they are even now in the process of studying other contracts like the one in Taguig and RII Builders to compare if we are indeed deviating from the law and to perhaps study also what has to be done in legislation to avoid things like this...

[Sovabon]

...in aid of legislation? mao nay ilang rason kon duna gani congressional inquiry nga pagahimoon. but i wonder why congressman pabling filed his bill resolution last week on matters relative to reclamation (pasensya, nalimot ko sa title ato, diha to sunstar few days ago), when the congressional inquiry is yet to start.

[giddyboy]

Nalzaro: Is City Hall bribing judges?
Home » Sun.Star Cebu » Opinion
Saturday, May 9, 2009

ACCORDING to Wikipedia, bribery “is a form of pecuniary corruption, an act implying that the money or gift given has altered the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined as the offering of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in discharge of a public or legal duty.”

It continued: “The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient's conduct. It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage, or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity.

“In Spanish, bribes are referred to as 'mordida' (literally, 'bite'). In Arab countries, they are Backshish. However, Backshish is more to tipping and is socially permissible.”

Is the move of the Cebu City Council, initiated by Councilor Gerry Carlllo, to give laptop computers to Cebu judges and Cebu-based justices of the Court of Appeals bribery?

I don't want to question the motive and wisdom of our City Councilors but their act can be misconstrued as bribery. Is City Hall preempting Capitol's plan to initiate legal action on the city’s joint venture agreement with Filinvest Land Inc.?

Why would City Hall give laptops to judges when there is no collective request from them? Only one judge made the request but he already retired.

Besides, judges can afford to buy their own laptops. Or they can ask for them from the Supreme Court. Media people, with their meager income, can even afford to buy a laptop through installment, how much more for a judge?

full article:
Nalzaro: Is City Hall bribing judges? | Sun.Star Network Online

[LytSlpr]

my last take on this matter is PJ's inquiry will go nowhere, WHY? the reasons were already mentioned.

so, it is safe to say that PJ's inquiry was nothing but pure panglawgaw in the first place out of greed and/or retaliation with legal basis or not.

i'm willing to put up a wager on that.

[cmac]

All I can say as a Cebuano is....SUYA SILA sa Cebu City!!!hahahaha

[mexicanlady]

All I can say as a Cebuano is....SUYA SILA sa Cebu City!!!hahahaha

Maingon ingon gyud ana cmac. Wa man gud silay SRP, dili baya na basta2x nga project ni Tomas. Naa pud untay ciudad project ang province nga ilang ika panghambog pero nag supak2x man ni Tomas, supalpal nuon. Natandog man gud ang sunpride sa mga Garcia kay si Tomas sigeg insulto sa ilaha. Resulta, question dayon sa SRP deal nga project ni Tomas kay para di madayon, malupigan unya sila. Sa una wala pa halin ang SRP daku kay ba-ba si Gwen sigeg saway kay mga migratory birds ra kuno nag puyo ug mga stray dogs. Unya karon naka deal man gyud ang SRP although questionable matod pang PJ. Lupig gyud na silang Tomas bisan unsaon pa nila. Taas pa kaayo na silag saka-onon nga bukid una kaapas sa legacy sa mga Osmena. (yaw lang kalagot mga Garcia loyalists ha, hehehe!!!) Peace lang ta ba!

[LytSlpr]

mao na, para ra kuno migratory birds ug sa mga stray dogs, sa ato pa, wala'y balor ug wala'y gamit.

unya karon mura man lagi ug iro'ng buang sa ug pama-ak ug sige ug "lupad" sa kongreso para babagan ang FLI-SRP deal.

kung tinuod nga walay balor ug dili sila affected, nganong ni babag man? gikaon ra niya iyang kaugalingon su-ka, how pathetic can this greedy clan get!

BTW, ang mga streetlighting sa SRP wala gi-overprice or at least dili halata nga gi-overprice. pero ang mga ka-alyado sa kapitol, gi sobrahan ug presyo kay daghan man sila nag bahin. di na lang nako i-enumerate kinsa ang mga posibleng nakabahin ato.

[LanCe]

sus..ako pa ni Pablo John,iya ayohon ang iya distrito usa mang hilabot sa uban....kahilabtanon ba aning mga Garcia..sus..Byron,PJ..same blood..same attitude..