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  1. #241

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    if you're a catholic, then i'm one. just not practicing anymore, sir.
    ah ok sir..

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    i got that from history, sir. real credible history. don't they teach history at sunday school anymore? oh i forgot, they only teach what they want you to learn.

    paul is not an apostle. he is not included among the 12 disciples.

    "prepare" or prefer Paul's doctrine?

    don't you know about these things, sir? i suggest you research extensively about the history of christianity sir.

    Got it ...

    Even if Paul is not a part of the 12 Apostles, then he can be called one by the will of God ...

    1Corith 1:1
    Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

    Sosthenes (Greek, "safe in strength") was the chief ruler of the synagogue at Corinth,

  3. #243
    ^^^ yup can't count judas iscariot i guess

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelwise View Post
    ^^^ yup can't count judas iscariot i guess
    So you became doubtful na sir of your christian belief ?

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    So you became doubtful na sir of your christian belief ?
    i said "i guess" because for the life of me i can't remember where in the bible it was said, or whether it was said at all, that judas was never considered an apostle. thing is before paul they were already called the 12 apostles, and i'm too lazy to find whether judas indeed was an apostle who just lost the title, or never an apostle at all in the first place .... i just dismissed all the thought and said "i guess"

    as to my "christian belief", i like to think that i now see the bible in a different light ... whatever the hell that means ... i guess it's easier to demonstrate rather than describe that.

    doubtful? no. but not naive either

  6. #246
    y not..... hehhehe

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    I thought you were Christian sir .. i think when we say the Bible it refers to Christianity.
    I am...

    Christianity was not even prescribed as a religion as far as the Bible is concerned. What the Bible prescribes is for people to become Christians. It's a different thing when you talk about Christianity and being a Christian. The former being referred to as the institutions being built by Christians of different persuasions (Born Again, Catholics, Lutherans, Dating Daan, etc). The latter can just be a believer without necessarily being affiliated with those institutions.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    I am...

    Christianity was not even prescribed as a religion as far as the Bible is concerned. What the Bible prescribes is for people to become Christians. It's a different thing when you talk about Christianity and being a Christian. The former being referred to as the institutions being built by Christians of different persuasions (Born Again, Catholics, Lutherans, Dating Daan, etc). The latter can just be a believer without necessarily being affiliated with those institutions.
    Christianity is the Religion, Christian is for follower of Christ.

    therefore sir we can make a religios institution not belonging to Christianity but using the Bible as Doctrine.

  9. #249
    christianity is NOT religion, nowhere does the bible say that. christianity doesn't save souls. and the bible is not doctrine ... dude, major confusion of terms you got there.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelwise View Post
    christianity is NOT religion, nowhere does the bible say that. christianity doesn't save souls. and the bible is not doctrine ... dude, major confusion of terms you got there.
    I dont understand what u quote sir .. im sorry.

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