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  1. #31

    Religion was made for the hopeless, to make them think there is hope when there is none..

    Now it is exploited for the financial benefit of the chosen few.

  2. #32
    Unsa kai gibasehan ni @SioDenz nga dili kuno religion ang Christianity?
    Last edited by porbidaman; 09-24-2014 at 09:05 PM.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Unsa kai gibasehan ni Siodz nga dili kuno religion ang Christianity?
    Becuase Siodenz (with all due respect to him) is not a Catholic. He belongs to a Protestantism demonination.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Becuase Siodenz (with all due respect to him) is not a Catholic. He belongs to a Protestantism demonination.
    And then? SDA, Jehova's, Catholics, and other Christian denominations all worshiped the the god of Abraham. Siodz must had been "speaking in tongue" hehehehe...

  5. #35
    @ TS, You can choose not to have a religion or church, you're in a free country anyway. If you think you don't need it then so be it.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    And then? SDA, Jehova's, Catholics, and other Christian denominations all worshiped the the god of Abraham. Siodz must had been "speaking in tongue" hehehehe...
    I totally agree on this..
    As what I've observed, most of the preachers(priests, pastor etc..) can answer bisan unsa imo ipangutana.. BUT sad to say some of them are answering based on their OWN interpretation "speaking tongue" dw ingon ni @porbidaman .. peace Siodenz>> nag express lng ko..

    Example Proof: Like having so many children... Ingon cla its "God's gift" or "God's will".. I don't think so... because if you are really to ask the parents of those children 100% they will answer "Lisod" , "Nindot unta ug gamay ra anak", "Gutom..." etc.. (talking about lower class families..). It should be "God's gift" + "God's will" = Happiness but the reality of life contradicts this kind of thought.

    So, they end up poor for almost the rest of their lives because they will just say "Pagbuot man ni sa Ginoo". I guess ingani nga mindset ng start from what they learned from "them".

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    @ TS, You can choose not to have a religion or church, you're in a free country anyway. If you think you don't need it then so be it.
    Thanks @necrotic freak

    But how can you resolve this:
    If wala ka religion in our free country Philippines, you will be condemned by other people. I think mauwaw ka mosulti nga wala ka religion nga gituohan.

    This is not an argument... I'm just asking unsaon nga ma free imong mind sa imohang "sakto" nga gituohan given the fact nga ngpuyo ta ani Christian country. Please suggest. thnx..

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    I totally agree on this..
    As what I've observed, most of the preachers(priests, pastor etc..) can answer bisan unsa imo ipangutana.. BUT sad to say some of them are answering based on their OWN interpretation "speaking tongue" dw ingon ni @porbidaman .. peace Siodenz>> nag express lng ko..
    Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. Ingon ani unta ta.. everify nato sa bible kung tinood ba ang gisulti or dili..

    Example Proof: Like having so many children... Ingon cla its "God's gift" or "God's will".. I don't think so... because if you are really to ask the parents of those children 100% they will answer "Lisod" , "Nindot unta ug gamay ra anak", "Gutom..." etc.. (talking about lower class families..). It should be "God's gift" + "God's will" = Happiness but the reality of life contradicts this kind of thought.

    So, they end up poor for almost the rest of their lives because they will just say "Pagbuot man ni sa Ginoo". I guess ingani nga mindset ng start from what they learned from "them".
    Mao nay giingon nga bisan bihuhatan sa tao ang Ginoo maoy pasanginlan.. we have the power to pro-create syempre moresulta man jud nang binuhatan.. Kulang sa kahibalo man gud..himoon man ang Ginoo ug pang population control.. dapat unta edukahon na sila nga kon gusto silag gamay ray anak di magsige ug himo kay di na kabubut-on sa Ginoo nga pasagdaan lang ang mga anak. Ang kabubut-on sa Ginoo mao nang pantunon, disiplinahon ang mga bata nga mahimong matinumanon sa ginikanan ug mahinadlokon sa Dios.

  9. #39
    ako lang obserbasyon TS no.. your faith is not anchored on the Lord but instead on the church leaders or the organization. As Christians our ultimate example should be Jesus, not our church leaders, not the pastors, priests, or the Pope. If you keep looking at these people you'll get discouraged kay eventually makita jud nimo ang ilang mga failures. Mao nga si Paul ni encourage jud to fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith.
    Last edited by NapoleonBlownapart; 09-24-2014 at 11:34 PM.

  10. #40
    Mao cguro Sir @NapoleonBlownapart.. sakto jud ka.. but mglisod ka if dili nimo ma link/anchor ang mga church leaders ky I learn who is God, Jesus ... etc.. and I believe it from "Them" even sa wla pa c Jesus, nag preach na c Abraham.. so through leaders gihapon (Starting from Jesus, to popes to priests..etc..)

    and I have NO question about there teachings.. it just the practice of the church how they treat less fortunate people (pobre ingon pa sa uban)..though dili cla big donors but I'm saying these are the people who are truly believers of the teachings of the church leaders.

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