human rights where are you

[taga_ipil]

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Some of these militants are in front of the Batasang Pambansa right now, alleging all those killings that the government purportedly committed. But they have not questioned the cruel killings that recently happened to our soldiers.

I wonder what are the reasons of these people for asking justice for the people that they said were killed. Yet take for granted the soldiers who have sacrificed their life just to defend the people and the State.

What a shame!!!.. palibhasa puro na mga tapulan ang naa diha.. gusto ila masunod... mga baga ug nawong...
nindot ibalik si Palparan as Chief of Staff.... :mrgreen:

[SioDenz]

It can only be described as 'SELF INTEREST'. Kana mga Human Rights Activists daw Dili man nah sila concern sa violation sa human rights or sa mga victim, Ila ra man nah gibuhat nga rason para sa ila kaugalingun interest - para magpasikat nya dagan dayun ig Eleksyon, Tukod dayun ug PARTY LIST Group. Nya kay mas musikat man if mu kontra sa Administration karon ky mao may uso, mao wala silay 'SAY' sa mga marines nga gipang-LAPA sa Mindanao. Sus, di nlan tah mutuo aning mga tawhana, di jud na sila muhunong ug inamaw hangtod dili sila ang mulingkod sa Gobyerno.

[taga_ipil]

It can only be described as 'SELF INTEREST'. Kana mga Human Rights Activists daw Dili man nah sila concern sa violation sa human rights or sa mga victim, Ila ra man nah gibuhat nga rason para sa ila kaugalingun interest - para magpasikat nya dagan dayun ig Eleksyon, Tukod dayun ug PARTY LIST Group. Nya kay mas musikat man if mu kontra sa Administration karon ky mao may uso, mao wala silay 'SAY' sa mga marines nga gipang-LAPA sa Mindanao. Sus, di nlan tah mutuo aning mga tawhana, di jud na sila muhunong ug inamaw hangtod dili sila ang mulingkod sa Gobyerno.

nakalingkod naman gani ang ubang amaw bro.. tua nagpadaku na sa iya tyan unya naghilom-hilom na kay
kay daghan na kwarta... ang uban na ganahan mo dagan tua nagpasikat sa dalan,
interview diri-interview didto..

di naku matingala kung modagan na ang usa ka leader sa Militante, katung suwangon...

[SioDenz]

hahaha...naa jud diay ka nailhan bro? gi describe pah
Tan-aw tan-aw nya ko sa news kay basin makit an sad nah nko imu gi ingun dah... :mrgreen:

[kazuya]

where there are radical activists there is human rights

[taga_ipil]

hahaha...naa jud diay ka nailhan bro? gi describe pah
Tan-aw tan-aw nya ko sa news kay basin makit an sad nah nko imu gi ingun dah... :mrgreen:

timan-i ni nga thread bro.... :mrgreen:
para after years... mo ingon ka naku.. sakto jud ka taga_ipil, ni dagan jud...

[grabejud]

dli lang lang pud unta na sila magpalabi oi...
murag padung naraba all out war, what im concern is the spill over daw to other provinces including cebu, mangandam ta ani sa mga moros...

[SioDenz]

dli lang lang pud unta na sila magpalabi oi...
murag padung naraba all out war, what im concern is the spill over daw to other provinces including cebu, mangandam ta ani sa mga moros...

Adah nang mga MOROS, cge man lang tah ana nila pa angay sa ila gusto. Sa una ra jud nah sila, sumala gud kitang mga christians ga cge ba gud tah ug panghilabot ana nila? murag sa una pa man tah cge adjust ana ila mga batasan. Sa una ra baya ang government nato cge pa angay ana ila gusto, hatagan ug atention kay lagi manuyo unya. Pirmi jud iapil sa mga proyekto ky lagi mga Pilipino man. Bisag lain ug pagtuo, kitang mga christians mu Respito jud sa ilaha ky mao man naha gi tudlo sa ato religion.
Murag WALA man tingali nato gihimu nga BIG DEAL ang ila pagaka MOROS? Wala man ko ka dungog nga kitang mga Kristiano ka cge ug DESCRIMINATE ana nila. Atu man unta na sila gi welcome nya gi ila nga equal nato. Murag sila man nuon gabuhat ug mga butang para Mag away ang Moros ug Kristiano. Sila jud cge pabikil. Ambot unsa ni ilaha, wala sila kasabot? or Palagot sa Kontra ni ilaha.
Maayu aning mga klaseha sa tawo, hiposon nlan ky kining mga klasiha DILI amn ni ganahan ug kalinaw.

Murag Bata bah, ug imu pa Uyun-uyunan Mugara nya Ma spoiled....

PEACE..

[gareb]

baron & taga_ipil:

why do you compare both killings as if they are equal occurences?

extra-judicial killings and forced disappearances of activists were done outside the context of a military encounter, while the deaths of the soldiers, however gruesome it was, was treated as a legitimate military encounter with the MILF (or ASG, for matters of dispute). the first was allegedly done by military forces on civilians, while the other was an unfortunate consequence of a military encounter between two armed groups. there is a wealth of difference between the two.

while we should not belittle the most horrifying manner of death that these soldiers suffered, we should not twist and use this unfortunate occurence to malign and downplay the legitimate concern of human rights violations of the Arroyo administration. the forced disappearances and systematic killings of journalists and activists are real, as real as the bodies of the beheaded soldiers.

does the fact that the latter happened justify that the former should be forgotten?

i sincerely hope not.

[taga_ipil]

baron & taga_ipil:

why do you compare both killings as if they are equal occurences?

extra-judicial killings and forced disappearances of activists were done outside the context of a military encounter, while the deaths of the soldiers, however gruesome it was, was treated as a legitimate military encounter with the MILF (or ASG, for matters of dispute). the first was allegedly done by military forces on civilians, while the other was an unfortunate consequence of a military encounter between two armed groups. there is a wealth of difference between the two.

Ka experience naka ug Massacre bro?
Kay kung wala pa bro.. pakit-on tika unsa ang word nga NO MANS LAND sa amo...
there is no such thing as Legitimate encounter in our place, in the first Place MILF and ABUSUYOP dont have that in their vocabulary
That's why when Estrade Declared an all out war we're very happy about it, in order to end the ASG's reign in our place.

while we should not belittle the most horrifying manner of death that these soldiers suffered, we should not twist and use this unfortunate occurence to malign and downplay the legitimate concern of human rights violations of the Arroyo administration. the forced disappearances and systematic killings of journalists and activists are real, as real as the bodies of the beheaded soldiers.

does the fact that the latter happened justify that the former should be forgotten?

i sincerely hope not.

They dont have proof that the Arroyo government did it,
same as those activist denied that they are a member of the leftist group and made those "organization" as a front to
cripple the government!... how will you call it a legitimate if there was no proof that they did it...and how sure you are that they were activist and not a leftist?