How do you obtain Salvation?

[noy]

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Yes, i agree with 75%Life, For Christians we need Jesus to be saved..
i think the question is valid sis Labelleza..
though we need to be careful, this might stir up arguments as Discussion on Salvation
is a very sensitive topic, we might go beyond the borders of respect.

[%75life4Him]

I really like the word respect. If my questions thrown hurt her doesnt compare to mine when I left my families in islam just to follow the God of the bible.

Copy Noy, I'll be lenient. Promise. I wont bash any religion. I'll just defend my faith and throw questions to her.

[SioDenz]

Siya maoy nanguna ug judge oi. Maayo gani ko kay nangayo pasaylo. Pagsure diha ba. Basabasa sa bai. Mao sa siguro ney problem sa imong society kay burag di kabalo mubasag english. Hehehe

Nganu nangayu man kag Pasaylo if wa paka ni Judge. klaru ana imung post ni angkon ka nga ni Judge ka. Nya since siya may Nanguna, ok ra if mu Judge sad ka kay gi unhan man ka. Unsa na inyung grupo bro nga nag preach ana nga pagtulon an?

By explaining nga siyay nanguna, imu i Justify imung sayop which is imung gi angkon in the first Place. Mao nay imung i preach ngari?

[%75life4Him]

Nganu nangayu man kag Pasaylo if wa paka ni Judge. klaru ana imung post ni angkon ka nga ni Judge ka. Nya since siya may Nanguna, ok ra if mu Judge sad ka kay gi unhan man ka. Unsa na inyung grupo bro nga nag preach ana nga pagtulon an?

Be nganung mamuyag man ka nako nga ni judge ko? Wa man lage nimo siya buyaga una nga siya may nanguna? Gdumot ka nako? Debate nalang ta sa gawas. Hahaha.

ego ra man ko ni defend sa ako kaugalingun by way of judging sad. Grupo nako? Wa mey denomination. Wa mey pastor. We are called the local church, the church in cebu. the recovery. the little flock etc.

By explaining nga siyay nanguna, imu i Justify imung sayop which is imung gi angkon in the first Place. Mao nay imung i preach ngari?

Mao ney imo rebuttal to discredit me? Wa koy labot sa imong gihunahuna oi. I am very much concern of what labeza's thinking because she is my fellow muslim.

Makalibog man ka. Christian ba ka o muslem.

[LaBelleza]

How can this be an off topic? This is salvation topic still.

It is still digressing a bit. But ok if we must...

No it is not impossible. God is Almighty! But because he's Almighty, he doesn't need to become a man.

Have a look for yourself in the Quran and hadiths but from the top of my head here's one concerning Zakah Surat Al-Baqarah [2:219] - The Noble Qur'an - it talks about "al afwoo" (part of our income that is overlooked and we can afford to give away)

[SioDenz]

Be nganung mamuyag man ka nako nga ni judge ko? Wa man lage nimo siya buyaga una nga siya may nanguna? Gdumot ka nako? Debate nalang ta sa gawas. Hahaha.

Imung Post man akong comment nga ni Judge ka? nya ni angkon pa jud ka. Nganu apilon man nimu ang laing tawo? Para ma Justify imung gibuhat?
nganu gud tawn gadumot ko nimu nga wa man ta nag away

ego ra man ko ni defend sa ako kaugalingun by way of judging sad.

Kinsay nagtudlo nimu nga if mu Defend ka sa imung pagtuo OK ra mu Judge ka or Justifiable ra if Mu Judge ka sa Uban?

Grupo nako? Wa mey denomination. Wa mey pastor.

Bantog Ra

Mao ney imo rebuttal to discredit me? Wa koy labot sa imong gihunahuna oi. I am very much concern of what labeza's thinking because she is my fellow muslim.

Im just stating the Facts about what you posted

Makalibog man ka. Christian ba ka o muslem.

Unsa diay ni diri Christian VS Muslim? abi nko mag hisgot tag ideas ngari

[LaBelleza]

Yes, i agree with 75%Life, For Christians we need Jesus to be saved..
i think the question is valid sis Labelleza..
though we need to be careful, this might stir up arguments as Discussion on Salvation
is a very sensitive topic, we might go beyond the borders of respect.

Maybe for you guys. I'm Muslim remember teehee.

[LaBelleza]

Btw guys I know I don't speak Cebuano (and I should learn and it's my fault) but you know I don't speak it so if you're talking about me I would appreciate it if you used English. Please.

However I tried to read and understand it and 75%Life, I wasn't judging Christianity. I love Christianity and I love Jesus (pbuh) but there are just some things I can't accept. I never said Christianity is easy, I didn't come to that conclusion. I said "well now it sounds easy" or something like that. That's the problem with forums and the like. Communication isn't the same as being face to face.

edt: God of the Bible is the same God in the Quran, by the waaay...
and a question! you said you left your family in Islam? Meaning you were Muslim before?

[%75life4Him]

It is still digressing a bit. But ok if we must...

No it is not impossible. God is Almighty! But because he's Almighty, he doesn't need to become a man.

O so you mean, mankind doesnt need a savior? Why do man commit sin then? If sin is not a problem for islam, well its a problem for christians because they dont want to continue on sinning. What about this?

"The acts of sins that a man commits outwardly cause his conscience to condemn him, whereas the nature of sin within him entangles him to continue in his sin. Man's intuition tells him that there is a God and that such a God is righteous. He desires to know God, but he realizes that his sinful acts and sinful nature isolate him from God." WL

Isnt this true?

Have a look for yourself in the Quran and hadiths but from the top of my head here's one concerning Zakah Surat Al-Baqarah [2:219] - The Noble Qur'an - it talks about "al afwoo" (part of our income that is overlooked and we can afford to give away)

So the forgiver Allah only requires part of our income but the God of the bible requires your entire being if you are going to help others.

[%75life4Him]

Imung Post man akong comment nga ni Judge ka? nya ni angkon pa jud ka. Nganu apilon man nimu ang laing tawo? Para ma Justify imung gibuhat?
nganu gud tawn gadumot ko nimu nga wa man ta nag away


Kinsay nagtudlo nimu nga if mu Defend ka sa imung pagtuo OK ra mu Judge ka or Justifiable ra if Mu Judge ka sa Uban?


Bantog Ra


Im just stating the Facts about what you posted


Unsa diay ni diri Christian VS Muslim? abi nko mag hisgot tag ideas ngari

Saba diha oi.