Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

[gareb]

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there are a lot of permutations in the genetic make-up of humans before, during and after conception and not all are considered "disorders".

why should this be anything special?

[handsoff241]

there are a lot of permutations in the genetic make-up of humans before, during and after conception and not all are considered "disorders".

why should this be anything special?

This is not special.. this is just our topic, nothing special about it. But it does affect a lot of lives to the point that it shapes cultures and values of nations.

[yanong_banikanhon]

there are a lot of permutations in the genetic make-up of humans before, during and after conception and not all are considered "disorders".

why should this be anything special?

Kun ang normal function sa mga genes nga responsible sa pag-produce og testosterone nga maoy makapalalaki sa lawas ug utok mokalit la'g ka-switch-off, dili kaha disorder na gyud ang tawag ana? Kay wala naman mahisubay sa norm ang behavior anang maong mga genes.

[ilovekikiam]

disease? imo ta to gpadefine sa imo teacher ang Disease. hehehe

hahaha..i agree! i guess ur teacher doesnt mean what ORIENTATION really means.. oh well...

[yanong_banikanhon]

hahaha..i agree! i guess ur teacher doesnt mean what ORIENTATION really means.. oh well...

Well, in epigenetics lingo, kanang 'same s3x orientation', deficiency na sa testosterone that happens when certain genes stop functioning normally at the early stage of embryonic development. It appears that 'homosexuality' is not actually a conscious 'choice' but a form of 'genetic behavior deviation' caused by epigenes.

[spike412]

Ang gisulti man gud anang maong youtube video mao nga kadtong mga genes nga na-switch off maoy hinungdan nganong gamay ra ang testosterone nga na-produce sa embryo.

By default daw, the brain configuration is to desire for men. Kun walay kausaban nga mahitabo, matawo ang bata nga female. Pero kun ang sperm cell nga ni-unite sa egg cell nagdala og Y-Chromosome, at 8 weeks, magsugod na og produce ang embryo og testosterone.

Kanang testosterone mao daw na ang hormone nga maka-masculinized sa body ug mind sa fetus. At 8 weeks, the embryo will start releasing testosterone. Kun gamay ra ang na-release nga testosterone or gamay ra ang na-absorb sa hypothalamus (a portion of the brain which partially controls who we find sexually attractive), ang resulta, the body will be fully masculinized but the brain will be left with the desire for men. In short, mahimugsong usa ka bayot ang bata.

Siguro kanang nagkalahi2x nga intensity sa pagkabayot (maya, pirting bayota, or silahis) depende na sa kakulangon sa testosterone nga na-absorb sa utok.

Kun ang hinungdan niining tanan mao ang pipila ka mga genes nga na-switch off, dili kaha usa ka form of genetic disorder ang homosexuality?

i've seen this episode sa discovery channel ....katong mother's day episode nila... informative gyud...

[aldrin89]

Ang gisulti man gud anang maong youtube video mao nga kadtong mga genes nga na-switch off maoy hinungdan nganong gamay ra ang testosterone nga na-produce sa embryo.

By default daw, the brain configuration is to desire for men. Kun walay kausaban nga mahitabo, matawo ang bata nga female. Pero kun ang sperm cell nga ni-unite sa egg cell nagdala og Y-Chromosome, at 8 weeks, magsugod na og produce ang embryo og testosterone.

Kanang testosterone mao daw na ang hormone nga maka-masculinized sa body ug mind sa fetus. At 8 weeks, the embryo will start releasing testosterone. Kun gamay ra ang na-release nga testosterone or gamay ra ang na-absorb sa hypothalamus (a portion of the brain which partially controls who we find sexually attractive), ang resulta, the body will be fully masculinized but the brain will be left with the desire for men. In short, mahimugsong usa ka bayot ang bata.

Siguro kanang nagkalahi2x nga intensity sa pagkabayot (maya, pirting bayota, or silahis) depende na sa kakulangon sa testosterone nga na-absorb sa utok.

Kun ang hinungdan niining tanan mao ang pipila ka mga genes nga na-switch off, dili kaha usa ka form of genetic disorder ang homosexuality?

kita sad ko ani nga episode kato man ning in the womb: identical twins. ang twins kay pareha gyud na sila ug genes, pero bayot ang usa hehehe... mao na ang explanation sa babaw.

[j3p0x]

my teacher said in theory, that being gay is a personality disorder,. theory ra hap,..ehehehe

[gareb]

Kun ang normal function sa mga genes nga responsible sa pag-produce og testosterone nga maoy makapalalaki sa lawas ug utok mokalit la'g ka-switch-off, dili kaha disorder na gyud ang tawag ana? Kay wala naman mahisubay sa norm ang behavior anang maong mga genes.

who dictates what is the normal behavior of what gene? and who dictates that the supposed lesser absorption of testosterone is itself a disorder?

fact is, homosexuality is a 'sexual orientation' which means that it is the attraction of the same ***. it is different from 'gender identity' which is how 'masculine' or how 'feminine' a person behaves. it is also different from 'sexual identity' which is what a person identifies himself or herself as: a 'man' or a 'woman'.

the explanation then that the 'pagkalalaki/pagkababaye sa lawas ug utok mokalit la'g ka-switch-off' does not help much in understanding the condition, as this tends to lump everything under one umbrella with the label 'disorder'.

there are a number of glaring problems with these explanations. it pre-supposes that sports is a distinctively masculine trait, while arts is a feminine trait. when the brain is exposed to, or absorbs less testosterone, the example given about Celso suggests that his inclination towards the arts as a supposed 'feminine' trait, which only supports the fact that he is gay.

it's pretty obvious that not all guys who like the arts are gay, and not all guys that are into sports are straight. this alone demolishes the link between 'sexual orientation' (being homosexual or heterosexual) and 'gender identity' (being masculine or being feminine). this does not even touch up to the issue of 'sexual identity' (seeing one's self as being a man or a woman). i am sure Celso sees himself as a 'man' notwithstanding his orientation.

besides this does not even offer explanations on the other half of homosexuality, which is lesbianism.

[yanong_banikanhon]

who dictates that the supposed lesser absorption of testosterone is itself a disorder?

The purpose of some genes from the Y-chromosome is to fully masculinize the body and brain. Masculinization is achieved by producing enough testosterone and making the hypothalamus absorb enough testosterone to erase the brain's desire for men and replace it with the desire for women. Now if some genes stop doing what they are supposed to do, then the term 'genetic disorder' might be the most appropriate term to describe this phenomenon.

fact is, homosexuality is a 'sexual orientation' which means that it is the attraction of the same ***. it is different from 'gender identity' which is how 'masculine' or how 'feminine' a person behaves. it is also different from 'sexual identity' which is what a person identifies himself or herself as: a 'man' or a 'woman'.

Actually, in epigenetics, they are caused by a single phenomenon - the switching off of some genes which make the brain and/or body partially (not fully) masculinized.

there are a number of glaring problems with this supposed explanations. it supposes that sports is a distinctively masculine trait, while arts is a feminine trait..it's pretty obvious that not all guys who like the arts are gay, and not all guys that are into sports are straight..

I don't think there is any scientific study to back up the claim that sports is a masculine trait and art is a feminine trait. In fact, three of the world's famous artists (Leonardo, Michaelangelo and Raphael) are all male.

besides this does not even offer explanations on the other half of homosexuality, which is lesbianism.

Lesbianism could be the result of the brain absorbing too much testosterone (fully masculinized brain) and the body absorbing lesser or no testosterone at all (partially masculinized body).

This is a scientific discussion so I'm just trying to be objective, not subjective. Let's try to see this information in a scientific point of view. There is absolutely no intent to discriminate any person based on his/her sexual orientation in this thread. Just in case duna'y masuko.