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What Happened to the Photography Industry in 2016?


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Originally Posted by marius you also posted this on FredMiranda There are a lot of business leaders there at FM....

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    you also posted this on FredMiranda
    There are a lot of business leaders there at FM.

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    Phones are much more useful than cameras. They can be used for video and voice calls, messaging, email, browsing, music, video. word processing, spreadsheet, presentations, photo editing, photo sharing, dating etc.

    In 2016 overall, smartphone sales to end users totaled nearly 1.5 billion units, an increase of 5 percent from 2015.

    A lot of end users receive their phones through 1/2/3 year cellphone contracts with their carrier.

    For iPhone, carriers have the largest share, at 77% in the twelve months ending September 2017.

    Apple Has Sold 1.2 Billion iPhones Over the Past 10 Years.

    Of which an estimated total iPhone installed base hit 715 million, including 228 million of second-hand devices, in December 2016, with year-on-year growth of 20%.

    So smartphones with camera improvements is "pushed" as a bundled feature to end users rather than "pulled" by end users when we buy a compact, dSLR or mirrorless.

    For consumers (aka non-working photogs) with extra money probably buy one IL-camera with one lens and keep it until it becomes unserviceable at which point they make a choice to buy another IL-camera, compact or stick with smartphone.

    For us whose passion or profession is photography we find smartphones and even compacts too limiting in our field of interest.

    Press news agencies like EPA or Reuters upgrade on a cycle as a competitive advantage mirroring the release of the latest and greatest from Canon & Nikon. I'm sure other photography businesses follow this business practice so long as revenue supports it.

    I was able to buy a brand new Android One smartphone for the equivalent of USD50.00 with sales tax. For that amount I'd only be able to buy a memory card.

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    Naa ko na dunog nga ang sales sa mirrorless around the SEA is going down (except sa Philippines, which is still going up)

    if pang hobby2x lang stick to mirrorless

    if pro or semi-pro.. go for DSLR gud... naa ko kaila nag dala siya mirrorless ni ana ang cliente... "mao nah imu gamit to shoo?, parehas ra man nah ug camera sa ako anak"
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    I say there’ll come a time this site will have good photography forum threads worth the while sharing and taking part in the discussion.

    Towards film era denouement and onset of digital imagery, my uncle who’s a president of studio film photographers group held on to his Canon A-1 and F1New SLR bodies along with his slew of Canon FD lens. As DSLRs were gaining foothold in digital photography business, my uncle continued shooting film - hoping Canon will have DSLRs allowing FD lens usability. According to him, it was just too much to bear seeing his Nikon fellow photogs attaching vintage lens in their Nikon D90s and D300/s DSLRs and whooping it up. And as form of grievance to Canon, his group swallowed their pride and made the big switch. If there was a generation then with similar frame of mind, Canon may have lost it to Nikon.

    Now, my uncle is nearing his twilight years. His gearing towards small and lighter camera formats. Only mirrorless cameras fit these need. Unless, Nikon or Canon can come up with dominant small and lighter formats they will be bound to lose a generation of senior photographers with similar outlook to Sony and Fuji.

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    i heard someone from Nikon Japan nga ingon siya mo release unta sila ug mirrorless pag Sept. pero ila nalng gi hold kay tanaw nila ang trend sa SEA(south east asia) kay going down man ang trend sa mirrorless and ni balik ug saka ang DSLR except for Philippines which is bali...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolina View Post
    So long as you know how to market yourself properly and have a brand name then your photo studio business should do well.

    If the business is presented as a "generic" brand then it can only demand generic price. Maraming "generic" na paid photographer because wala silang PR o sablay ang PR nila. This is not of lack of talent.

    The topic is about the number of point & shoots, DSLR and mirrorless cameras and lenses sold.

    Smartphones caused the death of low end point & shoots forcing brands to target high end with better image quality through larger image sensor and better optics in compacts. Point and shoots with a Four Thirds, APS-C & Full frame sensor.

    There isnt enough innovation in the DSLR market to prompt someone who already bought a DSLR after 2007 to upgrade unless their body is that old, that big or that broken.

    Smartphones are replaced with a newer model every 12/24/36 months if you're on a postpaid plan so the last point & shoot you may have bought between 2007-2012 might have been your last.

    Action cameras, drone cameras and 360 cameras do not compete directly with any of traditional cameras as they created a new specialized product segment. Can you imagine the level of difficulty of doing a portrait prenup with bokeh with a 360 camera?

    Young people prefer sticking to their smartphone due to price and convenience. Older people tend to have an ILC because they have the time and money to use them.

    I expect the DSLR body lineup to shrink down to the numbers back in 2003-2004 with one entry/consumer DSLR, one prosumer DSLR and one pro DSLR for both APS-C and Full Frame.

    I expect point & shoots to shrink to less than a handful large image sensor and superzoom cameras.

    Mirrorless will continue to expand.
    Where are all the photo studios in cebu gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melody fair View Post
    Where are all the photo studios in cebu gone?
    lisod na ngita studio ron kay nag ka anam na man baratu ang strobes gud...

    last nako shoot a few months ago ang client naka book sa studio... did2 sa mango dapit atbang sa fooda.. pero sunday ra sila ma bookan

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    Quote Originally Posted by melody fair View Post
    Where are all the photo studios in cebu gone?
    lisod na ngita studio ron kay nag ka anam na man baratu ang strobes gud...

    last nako shoot a few months ago ang client naka book sa studio... did2 sa mango dapit atbang sa fooda.. pero sunday ra sila ma bookan

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    Japan's Nikon shutters China plant, lays off 2,285 employees, Blames Rise of Smartphones

    Press Release: http://www.nikon.com/news/2017/1030_01_e.pdf

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    Unsa kahay angay buhaton sa camera manufacturers para ma-entice balik ang customers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CebuPrimeREP View Post
    Unsa kahay angay buhaton sa camera manufacturers para ma-entice balik ang customers?
    if ang DSLR ma sulod sa cellphone
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