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    unsa may kalainan aning belief, hope and faith ? are they the keys to salvation?

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    belief is mao na imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    faith is kung unsa imong gibuhat like actions para ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    hope is kung unsa imong gidahom nga ma-achieve ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)

    sa akoa lng ning literal nga paghubad ana nga words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk Hang View Post
    belief is mao na imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    faith is kung unsa imong gibuhat like actions para ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    hope is kung unsa imong gidahom nga ma-achieve ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)

    sa akoa lng ning literal nga paghubad ana nga words
    are they the keys to salvation?

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    I believe that belief shall help you.
    I believe nga there's one certain belief among those beliefs nga imong nailhan dinhis kalibutan which is approved by God.
    Only one of them is legit.
    If lisod e-determine which among those beliefs ang legit, then e-base ilang actions sa kung gasunod ba sila sa teachings sa Bible.
    Yes, lisod gihapon kay daghan ni claim nga nagsunod pud daw sila sa bible.. but bear in mind nga those people of God does not belong to the world - John 18:36

    So, which of those beliefs nga dili belong sa world?
    Those nga nagsunod sa gibuhat before ni Jesus.
    What are those nga binuhatan ni Jesus?
    Dili cya mo inom, manabako, sugal ug any immoral doings.
    What more? Nag preach cya sa kalataran para sa good news.
    Daghan beliefs ang nagbuhat ana diba?
    Deeper pa, he's teaching people to pray to God.
    (Sa akong nasabtan lang, wala cya nag-ingon nga pray to me since I am God kay everytime mag pray cya,
    mohangad cya ug mo pray sa iyang Father)
    Deepest part pa, si Jesus kay wala na belong sa earthly matters.
    How? Satan offered him so many things sa earth just to test him but wala cya nagpadala kay iyang Kingdom, heavenly man ug wala na belong sa earth.

    John 18:36 - Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.”

    In short, his people are neutral lang dinhi sa earth. Dili sila makigbahin sa kung unsay naa sa kalibutan.
    Best example, politics.. daghan religion nagpaluyo ana samot na kung mag eleksyon.

    His people believes on his heavenly kingdom so wala na sila nagsupport sa temporary power sa world government.
    Though as a citizen, need sila mo follow sa balaod sa gobyerno but never sila nagpaluyo sa mga politiko.

    And why ni believe sila sa heavenly kingdom ni Jesus? Tungod kay

    Daniel 2:44 - "In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,"

    What do you mean by kingdom if atong e-apply sa atong present ron nga panahon? Kingdom means government.
    How about Kings today? It means those rulers sa government.

    So diha nimo mahibaw-an nga naa diay unyay labing gamhanang (heavenly) gobyerno nga motamak aning tanang yutan-ong gobyerno nga nag exist karon diba? And that's probably the time nga giingon nilang 'matapos na ang kalibutan' which actually means, kining bulok nga sistema sa kalibutan maoy 'matapos'. Tapuson daw sa kingdom nga gitukod ni God which I think might be true diba? Asa man kag gobyerno ron nga makatapos jud sa kalisod, problema ug krimen sa kalibutan. Only a God can do that I guess. Man can do temporary solutions but never jud na niya ma fix ang problem aning kalibutana kay 1 John 5:19 - We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. So meaning, si Satanas ra jud ang nagpaluyo sa tanan kasakit dinhis kalibutan.


    So kinsa may makalupig ra anang Satan?



    Hopefully somehow nalamdagan ka.



    Finally, yes, what I meant with belief is religion.



    Try to observe each beliefs nga imong nailhan and compare the thing they called 'Faith' nga ilang gi-apply sa ilang beliefs.



    Any questions nga coming towards me especially sa mga personal questions won't be entertained

    You may ask other suggestions gikan sa ubang taw dinhi, but certainly, daghan mo oppose sa akong gi comment BUT let them be. Expected na kaayo na but dili ko ka level nila para makiglalis so mao to, let them be.


    This'll be my last comment as tambag sa imoha so keep searching and observing




    P.S
    Maybe I'm pointing to a certain belief but I'm not one of their representative. I'm a big sinner to preach so may God guide you through further.

    Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.

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    Itanong mo kay Soriano

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    Aside from the spelling?

    Dili pwede nga e-google nalang para mas dali?

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    If you have a strong belief in your faith, then in the end,you do have a better hope for a favorable outcome.

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    Kana si Faith kay amo na silingan. Katong usang adlaw kay nakahurot na siya ug usa ka kaha nga Hope while nag-laba sa Belief sa iyang bana. Grabeha lage ka kusog manigarilyo!
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    Belief--------common understanding as to what will happen after a certain action is done
    "kung naay iring nga itom mo agi saimong atubangan samtang nag lakaw ka, balik ky naay lain mahitabo nimo"

    Faith---------it will defy your belief, kung mo too ka or dili.. kung mo salig kas too2x

    hope---------nag laom nga nga walay mahitabo kung dili ka mo tubay sa belief, ug mo salig ka.. mag laom ka nga walay dautang
    mahitabo kung dili ka mo againts ka sa belief

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonz View Post
    Belief--------common understanding as to what will happen after a certain action is done
    "kung naay iring nga itom mo agi saimong atubangan samtang nag lakaw ka, balik ky naay lain mahitabo nimo"

    Faith---------it will defy your belief, kung mo too ka or dili.. kung mo salig kas too2x

    hope---------nag laom nga nga walay mahitabo kung dili ka mo tubay sa belief, ug mo salig ka.. mag laom ka nga walay dautang
    mahitabo kung dili ka mo againts ka sa belief
    what i mean is the deference in each one of them ( belief, faith and hope) towards salvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk Hang View Post
    belief is mao na imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    faith is kung unsa imong gibuhat like actions para ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)
    hope is kung unsa imong gidahom nga ma-achieve ana imong gituohan (tinuhoan)

    sa akoa lng ning literal nga paghubad ana nga words
    unsay ilang kalainan towards salvation, are each one of them if you have can lead you to salvation?

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