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whats the difference between Faith, Hope,and belief


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Originally Posted by Talk Hang I believe that belief shall help you. I believe nga there's one certain belief among those beliefs nga imong nailhan ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk Hang View Post
    I believe that belief shall help you.
    I believe nga there's one certain belief among those beliefs nga imong nailhan dinhis kalibutan which is approved by God.
    Only one of them is legit.
    If lisod e-determine which among those beliefs ang legit, then e-base ilang actions sa kung gasunod ba sila sa teachings sa Bible.
    Yes, lisod gihapon kay daghan ni claim nga nagsunod pud daw sila sa bible.. but bear in mind nga those people of God does not belong to the world - John 18:36

    So, which of those beliefs nga dili belong sa world?
    Those nga nagsunod sa gibuhat before ni Jesus.
    What are those nga binuhatan ni Jesus?
    Dili cya mo inom, manabako, sugal ug any immoral doings.
    What more? Nag preach cya sa kalataran para sa good news.



    Daghan beliefs ang nagbuhat ana diba?
    Deeper pa, he's teaching people to pray to God.
    (Sa akong nasabtan lang, wala cya nag-ingon nga pray to me since I am God kay everytime mag pray cya,
    mohangad cya ug mo pray sa iyang Father)
    Deepest part pa, si Jesus kay wala na belong sa earthly matters.
    How? Satan offered him so many things sa earth just to test him but wala cya nagpadala kay iyang Kingdom, heavenly man ug wala na belong sa earth.

    John 18:36 - Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.”

    In short, his people are neutral lang dinhi sa earth. Dili sila makigbahin sa kung unsay naa sa kalibutan.
    Best example, politics.. daghan religion nagpaluyo ana samot na kung mag eleksyon.

    His people believes on his heavenly kingdom so wala na sila nagsupport sa temporary power sa world government.
    Though as a citizen, need sila mo follow sa balaod sa gobyerno but never sila nagpaluyo sa mga politiko.

    And why ni believe sila sa heavenly kingdom ni Jesus? Tungod kay

    Daniel 2:44 - "In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,"

    What do you mean by kingdom if atong e-apply sa atong present ron nga panahon? Kingdom means government.
    How about Kings today? It means those rulers sa government.

    So diha nimo mahibaw-an nga naa diay unyay labing gamhanang (heavenly) gobyerno nga motamak aning tanang yutan-ong gobyerno nga nag exist karon diba? And that's probably the time nga giingon nilang 'matapos na ang kalibutan' which actually means, kining bulok nga sistema sa kalibutan maoy 'matapos'. Tapuson daw sa kingdom nga gitukod ni God which I think might be true diba? Asa man kag gobyerno ron nga makatapos jud sa kalisod, problema ug krimen sa kalibutan. Only a God can do that I guess. Man can do temporary solutions but never jud na niya ma fix ang problem aning kalibutana kay 1 John 5:19 - We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. So meaning, si Satanas ra jud ang nagpaluyo sa tanan kasakit dinhis kalibutan.


    So kinsa may makalupig ra anang Satan?



    Hopefully somehow nalamdagan ka.



    Finally, yes, what I meant with belief is religion.



    Try to observe each beliefs nga imong nailhan and compare the thing they called 'Faith' nga ilang gi-apply sa ilang beliefs.



    Any questions nga coming towards me especially sa mga personal questions won't be entertained

    You may ask other suggestions gikan sa ubang taw dinhi, but certainly, daghan mo oppose sa akong gi comment BUT let them be. Expected na kaayo na but dili ko ka level nila para makiglalis so mao to, let them be.


    This'll be my last comment as tambag sa imoha so keep searching and observing




    P.S
    Maybe I'm pointing to a certain belief but I'm not one of their representative. I'm a big sinner to preach so may God guide you through further.

    Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
    what i mean is unsa ilang kalainan towards salavation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjam66 View Post
    unsa may kalainan aning belief, hope and faith ? are they the keys to salvation?

    what i mean is unsa ilang kalainan towards our salvation.

    which is which?
    can belief saves you?
    can faith saves you?
    can hope saves you?

    marami kasing naniniwala
    marami kasing nananalig
    marami kasing uma asa

    alin sa kanila ang makaligtas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjam66 View Post
    what i mean is unsa ilang kalainan towards salavation.

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    what i mean is unsa ilang kalainan towards our salvation.

    which is which?
    can belief saves you?
    can faith saves you?
    can hope saves you?

    marami kasing naniniwala
    marami kasing nananalig
    marami kasing uma asa

    alin sa kanila ang makaligtas?
    hope and faith will matter if you'll be able to find out the true belief..

    daghan mo ingon nga it's what's inside your heart if ni tuo jud ka sa iyaha kay lage daw, nasayod siya sa atong heart..

    but No, says JAMES 2:17 "Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself."

    so bisag mo ingon pa ka nga, tibuok kasing2x nimo, ni tuo jud ka nya.. but imong binuhatan kay daghag baliko,
    then para niya, patay ra imong pagtuo..


    you may find my answer quite confusing kay akong answer is to find the true belief (first)..

    it's because.. it'll guide you to do the things that you suppose to do in order to gain "his" favor (for you to be saved)

    Jesus was sent para naa tay sumbanan(guide) kung unsay dapat buhaton sa usa ka matuod nga magtutoo (true believer)


    and take note, never ka makakita sa bible nga niana si Jesus nga "all religion" is right since they all believe in one the same God..

    never..



    another thing that you need to ponder my friend upon seeking God's kingdom.. this is out sa imong question but have this in mind..

    Jesus once said
    Matthew 7:22 – 23
    22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’


    see? dili daw tanan nagtawag sa iyaha nga Ginoo, iyahang ilhon (which is VERY common karon kay halos tanan nalang gaila ug gagamit ni Jesus ug gatawag sa iyang pangalan)


    so how will you recognize the true believers? Jesus then said,

    Matthew 7:16-20
    16 By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.

    so what does it mean? try to observe more..

    are these people nga imong giila nga true believers are actually doing God's will? or depende lang sa mood?
    are they doing the things that are being preached by their leaders every saturday or sunday? or depende lang sa kung asa sila pabor sa mga butang nga gusto nilang buhaton?

    if they're the true believers, then are they really doing what Jesus did during his days?

    I believe nga na mention na nako before what those true believers are suppose to be doing.


    makita ra jud na nimo sa ilahang binuhatan kung wala ba gasumpaki ilang binuhatan sa ilang
    gituohan..

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    apparently this is a premeditated question before you laid it out in here.
    let's cut the bullcrap, ts.

    what do you want to hear?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gibra'al View Post
    apparently this is a premeditated question before you laid it out in here.
    let's cut the bullcrap, ts.

    what do you want to hear?

    who will be save on judgement day?

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    whatever Faith you may hold TS, your hope and belief lies within that faith.
    as for salvation, depende kung unsay paagi sa imung religion nga maluwas ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjam66 View Post
    unsa may kalainan aning belief, hope and faith ? are they the keys to salvation?
    True Faith will save You, Faith is Pagtoo, meaning if naa kay Faith, naa Kay belief sa imung gituhoan, ug kung duna kay Faith imung sundun unsay gusto sa imung gituhoan.

    Hope is kind of opposite sa Faith. If you have Faith you don't Hope things would happen, but instead you Believed or certain that it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjam66 View Post
    who will be save on judgement day?
    only God knows, but according to my intel, very few

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    99.99% of theists don't believe in god..
    they just hope god is real that's why they wear helmets

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    atong binisay-on para mas klaro.

    faith - pag salig
    hope - pag la-om
    belief - pag to-o

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    Biblical definition of faith:

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
    Heb 11:1

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