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Originally Posted by slabs7 unya saon naa man pud ni so dili di ie hukman dayon after we die...naa pay judgement day yeah that is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    unya saon naa man pud ni



    so dili di ie hukman dayon after we die...naa pay judgement day

    yeah that is what I mean pud bay, ang judgment day diha ka hukman bale mao na lang na ang imo huwaton,
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    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    yeah that is what I mean pud bay, ang judgment day diha ka hukman bale mao na lang na ang imo huwaton,
    so kung mamatay ka na makakasala wla nai chance ky buhion raka dayon hukman so asa dpit ila gi.ingon na pwede ka mag.bag.o after death

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    OT: ang porgatoryo makita na sa ekina padulong Humor Section. LoL
    noy and larisse like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv View Post
    so kung mamatay ka na makakasala wla nai chance ky buhion raka dayon hukman
    actually kitang tanan makasasala man jud ug mao na ang nakaseparate nato kay God

    Romans 3:23King James Version (KJV)

    23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    James 2:10
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    For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    ingon ana kadako ang standard ni God nga bisan usa ka sala nimo, sala na jud tanan so wala jud tay chance nga masave, so we are doomed to death jud, i mean second death kanang hell jud

    Romans 6:23a
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    For the wages of sin is death;
    pero si God provided a way nga maluwas ta which is through Jesus Christ

    Romans 6:23b
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    but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    so iaccept si Jesus as our Lord and Savior to be saved

    Romans 10:9
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    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv View Post
    asa dpit ila gi.ingon na pwede ka mag.bag.o after death
    di naman makabag-o after death

    so mao ni ako nalearn from an evangelical church nga way to salvation nga no need ang purgatory, not good works, not even a religion can save you but it is through Jesus Christ ra jud, because we are saved by grace (undeserved favor) through faith in Jesus, nagpalansang jud siya sa cross para maoy ibayad pirmi sa atong mga sala ug kana mao na ang grace nga gioffer niya sa atoa

    Ephesians 2:8-9
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    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    ang evidence pud nga giaccept nimo si Jesus pud kay new life na nimo, so dili ang pagkanewlife nimo ang nakasave nimo kundi ang you are saved to have a new life

    2 Corinthians 5:17
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    Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
    ang evidence pud nga giaccept pud nimo siya kay makahimo ka ug good works, pero dili ang good works ang nakasave nimo kun dili you are saved to do good works

    Ephesians 2:10
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    For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
    and also it does not mean nga dili na ka makasala, makasala gihapon ka pero sinning less and less na kung giaccept nimo si Jesus kay sinful nature baya ang tawo, pero assured kay nga si Jesus ang lawyer nimo inig judgment day

    1 John 2:1
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    My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
    so you will be judged if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior through faith, in which it is a working faith, not a dead faith

    James 2:26
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    For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
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    So far sa akong nadunggan wala pay testimony nga naka experience naka adto na ug purgatory.. hehehe

    Heaven ug hell ra man ako na dunggan.. ehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by rics zalved View Post
    ang evidence pud nga giaccept nimo si Jesus pud kay new life na nimo, so dili ang pagkanewlife nimo ang nakasave nimo kundi ang you are saved to have a new life

    pero it does not mean nga dili na ka makasala, makasala gihapon ka pero sinning less and less na kung giaccept nimo si Jesus kay sinful nature baya ang tawo
    1. kinahangalan diay evidence? kung walay evidence. luwas gyapon?

    2. kung makasala gyapon (pero gamay ra) maluwas ra gyapon ta ana? meaning makasulod gyapon tas Langit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notouch View Post
    unya wa sad daw mkasud sa langit ug impyerno TS kung wala pa ang judgment day. nya wala paman nahitabo. asa man diay sila tambay ron?
    diri diay sa kalibutan, di pwedi? ang uban man gani magpakita sa mga buhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv View Post
    so kung mamatay ka na makakasala wla nai chance ky buhion raka dayon hukman so asa dpit ila gi.ingon na pwede ka mag.bag.o after death
    unsaon man nimu pag bag o after death? Huna huna ra? kay kalag nman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    1. kinahangalan diay evidence? kung walay evidence. luwas gyapon?
    pwede man gud ka moingon nga you accept Jesus pero ang imong ways kay ungodly kaayo, so tabla ra na nga wala nimo siya giaccept in the first place kay wala nimo giseryoso, so mao nang after you accept mogawas ang fruits ana if you truly accept siya kay malearn na nimo ilove is God so murag di ka ka feel nga obligation na nimo magevidences

    2. kung makasala gyapon (pero gamay ra) maluwas ra gyapon ta ana? meaning makasulod gyapon tas Langit?
    it is ok ra man nga makasala gihapon ka as long nga wala nimo toyoa, or dako kaayo imong guilt after nimo nabuhat, kay we are sinful nature man gud ang taw, pero sa akong gimention ganina nga if you accept Jesus seriously, siya ang lawyer nimo inig judgment day
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    mga katoliko ray maka adtu ug porgatoryo kay sila ray nituo ana

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    Quote Originally Posted by luff101 View Post
    So far sa akong nadunggan wala pay testimony nga naka experience naka adto na ug purgatory.. hehehe

    Heaven ug hell ra man ako na dunggan.. ehehe
    unsa man imo na dunggan, nag-unsa man sila didto?

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