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    Kindly share your concept about God......



    "Unlike sa OT times, God the Father (Y-H-W-H) mismo makig-istorya directly sa iyang creation (Adam/Eve), Jesus Christ dwelling with His creation....this time is the church age where it is the Holy Spirit's ministry that's working through the creation, transforming us to become godly people." God is still at work.

    The doctrine of the Trinity is foundational to the Christian faith.

    It is crucial for properly understanding what God is like, how He relates to us, and how we should relate to Him. But it also raises many difficult questions. How can God be both one and three? Is the Trinity a contradiction? If Jesus is God, why do the Gospels record instances where He prayed to God?While we cannot fully understand everything about the Trinity (or anything else), it is possible to answer questions like these and come to a solid grasp of what it means for God to be three in one.

    What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity?
    The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons--the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.

    The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Phil. 1:2), Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3-4). Are these just three different ways of looking at God, or simply ways of referring to three different roles that God plays?

    The answer must be no, because the Bible also indicates that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. For example, since the Father sent the Son into the world (John 3:16), He cannot be the same person as the Son. Likewise, after the Son returned to the Father (John 16:10), the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit into the world (John 14:26; Acts 2:33). Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be distinct from the Father and the Son.

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    more profound explaination about the trinity by CS Lewis.

    Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis

    God’s Economy: recovered by Witness Lee, enjoyed by local churches

    About.com: http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm

    Therefore, the doctrine of the Trinity is arrived at by looking at the whole of scripture, not in a single verse. It is the doctrine that there is only one God, not three, and that the one God exists in three persons: Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. An analogy would be time. Time is past, present, and future. But, there are not three times, only one.

    May God bless us all!
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    Hope this helps us with our confusion about the nature of God.

    OT: ai mog kaikog comment mga migo tinabangay ta masabtan nato ang kamatuoran kay importante kayo ni. We will listen also sa inyong side.....
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    mao jd dugay na pd ko naglibog about ani, daghan kaayo og inconsistencies sa belief sa Catholic og Bible
    pareha sa concept sa "purgatory" <- murag gi timo2 rani sa mga Katoliko kay ang Bible wa man mo hisgut og purgatory

    pero out of words pako karon kay lisud kay i explain haha

    OT: sa TRINITY tan-aw nako murag distinct ni sila kay si Jesus ni tawag man sad sa FATHER katong gilansang siya sa kuros, ang nakalibog lng kay ingun pd sila THERE IS only one GOD pero basin in THREE different aspect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trebmeg View Post
    mao jd dugay na pd ko naglibog about ani, daghan kaayo og inconsistencies sa belief sa Catholic og Bible
    pareha sa concept sa "purgatory" <- murag gi timo2 rani sa mga Katoliko kay ang Bible wa man mo hisgut og purgatory

    pero out of words pako karon kay lisud kay i explain haha

    OT: sa TRINITY tan-aw nako murag distinct ni sila kay si Jesus ni tawag man sad sa FATHER katong gilansang siya sa kuros, ang nakalibog lng kay ingun pd sila THERE IS only one GOD pero basin in THREE different aspect?
    si Jesus ni tawag sa father kay..

    (Philippians 2:8 )
    And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death--even death on a cross!

    patudlo or basa ug mga catholic apologetic aron ka dili mag libog. ayaw nang interpretation sa mga protestante nga wa pod nakasinabot. ang resulta daghan sila ug division naay Lutheran, Anglican, Reformed, Calvinism etc.. mao nay resulta sa mag iyahay lang ug buot2x sa pag interpret sa bible nga gi compile ug gi canonized sa catholic church.
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    mao sd ni gustong hubaron ni st. augustine kining doctrine of trinity, unya samtang nag lakaw cyas baybayon nakakita cyag bata ga lungag sa daplin, mao to iyang gi duol ang bata nya iyang gipangutana.

    Augustine: dong unsa man imong buhaton anang lungag nga imong gi buhat?
    Bata: akong e butang dri ang tibuok dagat.
    Augustine: imposibli kaau na dong oi, kagamay ana imong gi lungag unya imong e sod ang dagat dha?
    Bata: unya ikaw nganung imo man gyung hubaron ang Doctrine of Trinity nga ka gamay ana imong utok?

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    Biblical Evidence for the Godhead

    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE." —1st John 5:7

    The Bible, God’s Word, proclaims that there is ONE God (Deuteronomy 6:4), Who has revealed Himself to mankind in three distinct Persons; namely, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Although the term “Trinity” is not found in the Scriptures, the word “Godhead” most certainly is — in 3 places!

    Romans 1:19, 20 states…

    “Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse.”

    Some people (such as Muslims) foolishly claim that belief in a Godhead (aka, Trinity) means worship of three gods (polytheism). This simply reflects their woeful ignorance of the Word of God. The LORD our God is ONE Lord (Deuteronomy 6:4); but He does exist in three Persons, i.e., a Trinity.

    Acts 17:29 states…

    “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”

    Colossians 2:9…

    “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily.”

    1st John 5:7 is in the Original Greek. If there were no other verse of the King James Bible testifying of the Godhead, 1st John 5:7 would be enough for any Bible-believer to know that God exists in three Persons — the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…

    “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.” —1st John 5:7

    Now if you have a modern corrupt bible, then you won’t find 1st John 5:7 correctly rendered. I went out and bought a literal translation of the Bible in Greek and Hebrew, based on the “Textus Receptus” (or Received Text). It contains 1st John 5:7 just as the King James Bible faithfully renders. The translators of the King James Bible rejected certain manuscripts as heretical. The manuscripts which they did accept became know as the “Received Text.”


    How Can One God Exist in Three Persons?

    Some people feel like they have to provide an answer for every question. Well, that’s not true. Doctors are still perplexed as to what causes the human body to sneeze; but it’s an obvious fact. Mankind’s brightest secular scientists cannot with any certainty tell us how life began, nor can they tell us how big the universe is, nor can they create even the simplest of life forms in a laboratory. It makes infinite more sense to accept the Bible’s claim that God spoke the universe into existence by the Word of His mouth (2nd Peter 3:5). Ironically, the same people who refuse to believe the Bible without proof; readily believe the bogus tales of unsaved scientists, even without as much as a single shred of credible evidence to support their claims. This clearly evidences the wickedness of man’s heart against his divine Creator.

    Colossians 2:2, 9 acknowledges the Godhead as a “mystery” …

    “…to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ… For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

    Colossians 2:9 plainly teaches that the Godhead became incarnate in the fleshly body of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Timothy 3:16 declare the same truth…

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh…”

    Someone has said that "BIBLE" in acronym forms means:

    B = Basic
    I = Instructions
    B = Before
    L = Leaving
    E = Earth

    I like that. Too many people refuse to accept God at His Word and continually put God on trial in their mind. Can anyone really explain how ONE individual can exist in three Persons? I don’t see how. Some Bible-teachers like to use the fact that humans are composed of body, soul and spirit; but we are still one person; not three. This is not a good example of the Godhead. I can’t give you a good example, and won’t try. God is God and we don’t have to figure out how to describe Him to an unsaved world of Christ-rejecters. To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who believe not, no explanation is possible. Let us just accept God as the Bible portrays Him.

    The Scriptures identify each Person of the Godhead as “God.” The word "Godhead" is a Bible word (Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9).

    The Father is called God.
    Romans 15:6, “That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”


    Jesus is called God.
    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1st Timothy 3:16

    Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”

    Colossians 2:9, “For in him [Jesus] dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”


    The Holy Ghost is called God.
    Acts 5:3-4, “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”

    1st Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS manifest in the flesh, JUSTIFIED IN THE SPIRIT, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”


    The Godhead and Our Salvation

    God the Father sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16).
    John 5:36, “But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.”


    The Son was sent to be the propitiation (to appease the wrath of God) for our sins.
    1st John 4:10, “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.”


    The Holy Spirit reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.
    John 14:26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

    John 15:26, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.”


    More Scriptures Testifying of the Godhead

    "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." —Matthew 28:19,20

    "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him [Jesus], and a voice came from heaven [God the Father], which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." —Luke 3:22


    Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible.

    God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17... "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."


    Jesus SAID in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."


    The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2... "Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."


    Each Person of the Godhead was Operative in the Old Testament.

    The Father — Isaiah 64:8, “But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.”


    Jesus — 1st Corinthians 10:1-4, 9, “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: AND THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.”


    The Holy Ghost — Hebrews 3:7-11, “Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved ME, and saw MY WORKS forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, they shall not enter into my rest.)”
    From the very first chapter in the Bible, God makes it known that He consists of more than one Person--

    Genesis 1:26-27, “And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him.”

    Genesis 3:22, “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...”

    When Isaiah had a vision of the Lord sitting upon a throne, the Lord asked him a question…

    Isaiah 6:8, “Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me.”

    In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son (Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit (Isaiah 40:13, 2nd Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, et cetera). We also find that the LORD [Jesus] said that the LORD [God the Father] would send Him to the earth (Zechariah 2:10,11).
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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    si Jesus ni tawag sa father kay..

    (Philippians 2:8 )
    And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death--even death on a cross!

    patudlo or basa ug mga catholic apologetic aron ka dili mag libog. ayaw nang interpretation sa mga protestante nga wa pod nakasinabot. ang resulta daghan sila ug division naay Lutheran, Anglican, Reformed, Calvinism etc.. mao nay resulta sa mag iyahay lang ug buot2x sa pag interpret sa bible nga gi compile ug gi canonized sa catholic church.
    akong pasabot ba katong ni cry out loud si jesus og "Father, father why have you forsaken me"

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    well hinuon tagsa tagsa man ta ug pagtuo, i'll just respect your beliefs lng ..

    kay d man ko motuo ing-ani gud ...
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    How Does the Bible Teach the Doctrine of the Trinity?

    The following chart shows some of the many passages in the Bible from which the doctrine of the Trinity is derived. Note that God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all called God and all have the same attributes, which are attributes that only God has.

    THE TRIUNE GODHEAD PRESENTED IN SCRIPTURE

    FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
    Called God Phil. 1:2 John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9 Acts 5:3-4
    Creator Isa. 64:8; 44:24 John 1:3 Col. 1:15-17
    Resurrects 1 Thess. 1:10 John 2:19, 10:17 Rom. 8:11
    Indwells 2 Cor. 6:16 Col. 1:27 John 14:17
    Everywhere 1 Kings 8:27 Matt. 28:20 1 Kings 8:27 Psa. 139:7-10
    All knowing 1 John 3:20 John 16:30; 21:17 1 Cor. 2:10-11
    Sanctifies 1 Thess. 5:23 Heb. 2:11 1 Pet. 1:2
    Life giver Gen. 2:7: John 5;21 John 1:3; 5:21 2 Cor. 3:6,8
    Fellowship 1 John 1:3 1 Cor. 1:9 2 Cor. 13:14; Phil. 2:1
    Eternal Psa. 90:2 Micah 5:1-2 Rom. 8:11; Heb. 9:14
    A Will Luke 22:42 Luke 22:42 1 Cor. 12:11
    Speaks Matt. 3:17; Luke 9:25 Luke 5:20; 7:48 Acts 8:29; 11:12; 13:2
    Love John 3:16 Eph. 5: 25 Rom. 15:30
    Searches the heart Jer. 17:10 Rev. 2:23 1 Cor. 2:10
    We belong to John 17:9 John 17:6
    Savior 1 Tim. 1:1; 2:3; 4:10 2 Tim. 1:10; Tit. 1:4; 3:6
    We serve Matt. 4:10 Col. 3:24
    Believe in John 14:1 John 14:1
    Gives joy John 15:11 Rom. 14:7
    Judges John 8:50 John 5:21,30
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    @defender, careful labeling muslim's unbelief of our Christian doctrine about trinity as foolish..
    you may be in the right reason but you might miss Jesus' second commandment about Loving others as ourselves
    which is equally important to the first one which is to Love God above all.
    though of different faith, Jesus died for them too..

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