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Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


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Originally Posted by jerzx777 Sigon pa sa kasagaran na panultihon, na "Patay daw ang pagtuo kung wlay mga maayong buhat" , naa say muingon na ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerzx777 View Post
    Sigon pa sa kasagaran na panultihon, na "Patay daw ang pagtuo kung wlay mga maayong buhat" , naa say muingon na tuohi ang amo mga maayong pagsangyaw or mga sulti ug ayaw tan-awa ang among buhat ... so unsa man gyud ?

    As written in the bible, Matthew, inig abot sa adlaw sa pag hukom, pagahukman matag-usa kanato , ug pagalainon sa maghuhukom ang mga kanding na nagsimbulo sa mga tawong dautan adto sa iyang walang kamot ug ang mga karnero na nag simbolo sa tawong matarong adto usab sa iyang tuo na kamot.

    Pagahukman kita sigon sa atong tag-sa tagsa ka mga binuhatan , so karon metras sayo pa, uban sa atong pagtuo , daghanon nato ang atong mga maayo na mga buhat. . basin pa maangkon nato ang atong Kaluwasan.
    kuan man gud na bai kanang mga nagsangyaw ba tao ra man gud gihapon na sila..masipyat jud na sila mao ayaw na lang tan-aw sa ilang mga binuhatan kay mapandol lang ka nila. heh para pud nako bai just enjoy life na lang unya kung unsa nahibaw-an nimo nga dili makaayo para sa uban ayaw na lang buhata. importante man gud ng malipayon ka sa imong gibuhat pud. lisod ng maningkamot ka nga puro maayo imong buhaton unya di diay ka malipayon anang binuhata tang lisura na. unya bisan unsaon jud pud nato bai lisod maconsistent nga magbuhat ka og maayo kay bisan unsaon jud bai dili nimo maplease ang tanan tao sa imong binuhatan naa jud mosaway nimo. mao para nako bai' buhat na lang ta sa butang nga giila natong maayo og dapat happy jud ka sa imo gibuhat ana na lang para di ta malibog kay naa bitaw GRACE .we can be save by grace si Lord ra ang mojudge ana.

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    @jerzx777

    sir, i'm a catholic but I do not believe everything in the bible...considering the history of the Catholic Church...kadudahan ang uban teachings...
    @WengIA

    I agree with you...para nako you conscience is clear...if you were able to do good, mas maayo...then if think u've done something wrong, repent & do something to make it right...

    The question is, why do you want to be save? Are you expecting that you will remember everything after this lifetime? Does heaven & hell do really exist?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post

    zacharias's argument falls flat there.. stalin did kill millions not because of atheism but for politics and for his country the soviet union..

    on the other hand, crusaders kill in the name of christianity

    no wonder, it has only 2k views because his answer is stupid

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    Gi pasaylo ta sa ginoo dili sa atong pag buhat or sa mga maaung nimong binuhatan kundi tungod sa kaluoy ug sa pabor nga gihatag sa ginoo kanato nga wala jud unta tay katongod pero gihatag sa ato.

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    sukad pa sa pag join nako aning istorya tuig 2012 hangtud karon wa pa jud ni maghuman unsa kahang klase sa kamatuoran ang gustong pamatud-an sa mga tawo nganhi.

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    ahahaha both jud

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    Ang angay nato sabton kay kita tanan mga tao di perpekto. Pasabot kini atong mga binuhatan d pod perpekto. Bisan unsaon nato pagpaningkamot masipyat gyud ta.

    Ang Ginoo sigon sa atong panabot, osa ka Being nga perpekto , iyang mga pamaagi perpekto. Busa ang Ginoo demands from us perfection apan lagi d ta perfect, ang pamaagi sa iyang pagluwas nato mao sa paagi sa iyang grasya pinaagi sa pagtoo. Dli pinaagi sa atong binuhatan, kay lagi d man ta perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heartthr0b View Post
    zacharias's argument falls flat there.. stalin did kill millions not because of atheism but for politics and for his country the soviet union..
    Actually it is in part because of his atheistic worldview. In an atheistic worldview human life has no intrinsic value. Do whatever you think is good. Stalin deemed the killing of his countrymen good. Like Zacharias said it's the logical outworking of atheism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heartthr0b View Post
    zacharias's argument falls flat there.. stalin did kill millions not because of atheism but for politics and for his country the soviet union..

    on the other hand, crusaders kill in the name of christianity

    no wonder, it has only 2k views because his answer is stupid
    Wa nimo nakuha ang point ni Zacharias.

    Of course Stalin killed for political reasons and he did it w/o remorse tungod kay atheist siya.

    Mao na ang point ni Zacahrias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Actually it is in part because of his atheistic worldview. In an atheistic worldview human life has no intrinsic value. Do whatever you think is good. Stalin deemed the killing of his countrymen good. Like Zacharias said it's the logical outworking of atheism.
    wrong, atheism has nothing to do with mass murders.. it was purely political.. there are more theist MASS MURDERS than atheist..zacharias never debates because he knows he sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeNoctem View Post
    Wa nimo nakuha ang point ni Zacharias.

    Of course Stalin killed for political reasons and he did it w/o remorse tungod kay atheist siya.

    Mao na ang point ni Zacahrias.
    pareha ra mong zacharias nga bogo..

    hitler, churchill, alexander the great, genghis khan etc..they are all ****ing THEIST and they are mass murderers too..

    they killed because of political reasons you ****ing idiot

    even ST constantine the geat your ****ing saint is a mass murderer

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