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			<title><![CDATA[Does Kevin Love's absence will affect the T-Wolves' chance for the Playoffs?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:22:43 GMT</pubDate>
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It has been 8 seasons that the Minnesotta Timberwolves failed to advanced to the Playoffs. The last time they competed was during the 2004 NBA Playoffs - Western Conference Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers which they lost in six games. L.A. Lakers advanced to the NBA Finals vs Detroit Pistons. But it's ok, the Lakers got swept! 


The team's poster boy, Kevin Love, is sidelined for 8-10 weeks for a hand surgery after he injured his right hand again vs Nuggets on January 3rd. It's the same hand that he injured during his morning workout after the London Olympics. He was supposed to miss 6-8 weeks but he suited up after 5 weeks and scored 34 pts, 14 rebs, in 35 minutes against the Nuggets which they lost 101-94. 


Their franchise player is out, so what are their chances to be in the playoffs now that Kevin Love is out? Before we investigate this, I just want to point out that the *T-Wolves are promising their season ticket holders a 10% discount (http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/01/07/timberwolves-promise-new-season-ticket-buyers-playoffs-or-10-percent-refund/)* when they renew their tickets next season if the team won't make the playoffs this year. Wowza!


Right now, as of Jan. 11th, the T-Wolves are currently at the 10th place in the Western Conference with the record of 16-16 (.500%), just below the Utah Jazz who has a current record of 19-18 (.514%). They would need to get to the 8th seed inorder to make to the Playoffs. 47.2 wins is the average wins of 8th seed teams in the Western Conference during the last five full NBA seasons. 

In theory, the T-Wolves should have a record of at least 47-35 by the end of the season. For the rest of their games, their goal should have at least a 31-19 record (.660%) -- somewhat similar winning pace of the (drum roll...) Denver Nuggets who are currently at 21-16 (.668%). 


The question we've been wanting to know... Is Kevin Love's absence going to be a hindrance of winning games?


Aside from the model of NUMB#RS fragrance, the T-Wolves lost another effective player this season: Chase Budinger, a player who had 20.6 pts/48, 8.0 rebs/48 last season. He only played the first 6 games with the T-Wolves then got sidelined for a left knee surgery and expected to miss 3-4 months. Chase had 24.2 pts/48, 7.1 rebs/48, and 60.4 TS% (True Shooting %). The T-Wolves are 4-2 with Chase during the first 6 games.


I don't want to mention Brandon Roy. He ain't effective. Anymore.


*The T-Wolves had a 5-4 (.556%) record during the first 9 games when without Love and 10-10 (.500%) record since the night he played on Nov. 21st vs Nuggets until he got injured on Jan. 3rd vs Nuggets.*


Here's the T-Wolves players' individual WP48 (Wins Produced per 48 minutes). It's used to evaluate a player's performace and their effectiveness on both ends of the floor. Andrei Kirilenco has .278 in WP48, players who has above .200 in WP48 are typically performing like "stars". Full explanation *here (http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/the-basics-rev-2/)* . In T-Wolves' case, Kirilenco is their "go-to" guy. 


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*SOURCE:* The NBA Geek - Stats for Minnesota Timberwolves (http://www.thenbageek.com/teams/min?direction=desc&sort=%22WP48%22)

Players who has above .100 in WP48 are a typical "starters" performers, and based on the chart above, Pekovic and Cunningham are playing like starters. Their starting PG Luke Ridnour and SG Alexey Shved are having below .100 in WP48 but above .050 in WP48. Does that mean since their WP48 are below .100, they are playing like bench players? Whether you like it or not... Yes, they're performing like bench players! Below 0.50 in WP48 are just "practice squad" players.


Let's look at the Advanced Statistical Plus Minus here:


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*SOURCE:* 2013 ASPM | DStats (http://godismyjudgeok.com/DStats/aspm-and-vorp/2013-aspm/)

Based on the chart above, it suggest that Mr. AK47 is the most effective player on the team offensively and defensively. But if we have to look at their current record, his effectiveness only have the T-Wolves at .500% mark. Not enough to get into the 8th seed.

The T-Wolves are currently 1-2 record without Love and a total of 6-6 record to add the first 9 games. The rest of the players should step their game up if they want to make the playoffs. By the looks of it, I'm not sure how would this team makes the playoffs if they still play mediocre basketball. With or without Kevin Love still makes no difference. 

They might probably make the playoffs with a .500-type of record in the Eastern Conference, but Western Conference is hell of a tough competition on that side of the fence.

I just created a Twitter account... *@PinoyAnalytics* (http://twitter.com/PinoyAnalytics). If you have any questions, suggestions what I should write next, or just want to talk, don't hesitate to contact me there.]]></description>
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It has been 8 seasons that the Minnesotta Timberwolves failed to advanced to the Playoffs. The last time they competed was during the 2004 NBA Playoffs - Western Conference Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers which they lost in six games. L.A. Lakers advanced to the NBA Finals vs Detroit Pistons. But it's ok, the Lakers got swept! <br />
<br />
<br />
The team's poster boy, Kevin Love, is sidelined for 8-10 weeks for a hand surgery after he injured his right hand again vs Nuggets on January 3rd. It's the same hand that he injured during his morning workout after the London Olympics. He was supposed to miss 6-8 weeks but he suited up after 5 weeks and scored 34 pts, 14 rebs, in 35 minutes against the Nuggets which they lost 101-94. <br />
<br />
<br />
Their franchise player is out, so what are their chances to be in the playoffs now that Kevin Love is out? Before we investigate this, I just want to point out that the <b><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/01/07/timberwolves-promise-new-season-ticket-buyers-playoffs-or-10-percent-refund/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font color="#ff0000">T-Wolves are promising their season ticket holders a 10% discount</font></a></b> when they renew their tickets next season if the team won't make the playoffs this year. Wowza!<br />
<br />
<br />
Right now, as of Jan. 11th, the T-Wolves are currently at the 10th place in the Western Conference with the record of 16-16 (.500%), just below the Utah Jazz who has a current record of 19-18 (.514%). They would need to get to the 8th seed inorder to make to the Playoffs. 47.2 wins is the average wins of 8th seed teams in the Western Conference during the last five full NBA seasons. <br />
<br />
In theory, the T-Wolves should have a record of at least 47-35 by the end of the season. For the rest of their games, their goal should have at least a 31-19 record (.660%) -- somewhat similar winning pace of the (drum roll...) Denver Nuggets who are currently at 21-16 (.668%). <br />
<br />
<br />
The question we've been wanting to know... Is Kevin Love's absence going to be a hindrance of winning games?<br />
<br />
<br />
Aside from the model of NUMB#RS fragrance, the T-Wolves lost another effective player this season: Chase Budinger, a player who had 20.6 pts/48, 8.0 rebs/48 last season. He only played the first 6 games with the T-Wolves then got sidelined for a left knee surgery and expected to miss 3-4 months. Chase had 24.2 pts/48, 7.1 rebs/48, and 60.4 TS% (True Shooting %). The T-Wolves are 4-2 with Chase during the first 6 games.<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't want to mention Brandon Roy. He ain't effective. Anymore.<br />
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<b>The T-Wolves had a 5-4 (.556%) record during the first 9 games when without Love and 10-10 (.500%) record since the night he played on Nov. 21st vs Nuggets until he got injured on Jan. 3rd vs Nuggets.</b><br />
<br />
<br />
Here's the T-Wolves players' individual WP48 (Wins Produced per 48 minutes). It's used to evaluate a player's performace and their effectiveness on both ends of the floor. Andrei Kirilenco has .278 in WP48, players who has above .200 in WP48 are typically performing like &quot;stars&quot;. Full explanation <b><a href="http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/the-basics-rev-2/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font color="#ff0000">here</font></a></b> . In T-Wolves' case, Kirilenco is their &quot;go-to&quot; guy. <br />
<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.istorya.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7576&amp;d=1357937685" id="attachment7576" rel="Lightbox_2058" ><img src="https://www.istorya.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7576&amp;d=1357937685&amp;thumb=1" border="0" alt="Click image for larger version.&nbsp;

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Players who has above .100 in WP48 are a typical &quot;starters&quot; performers, and based on the chart above, Pekovic and Cunningham are playing like starters. Their starting PG Luke Ridnour and SG Alexey Shved are having below .100 in WP48 but above .050 in WP48. Does that mean since their WP48 are below .100, they are playing like bench players? Whether you like it or not... Yes, they're performing like bench players! Below 0.50 in WP48 are just &quot;practice squad&quot; players.<br />
<br />
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Let's look at the Advanced Statistical Plus Minus here:<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.istorya.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7578&amp;d=1357937699" id="attachment7578" rel="Lightbox_2058" ><img src="https://www.istorya.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7578&amp;d=1357937699&amp;thumb=1" border="0" alt="Click image for larger version.&nbsp;

Name:	ASPM Minny.jpg&nbsp;
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Based on the chart above, it suggest that Mr. AK47 is the most effective player on the team offensively and defensively. But if we have to look at their current record, his effectiveness only have the T-Wolves at .500% mark. Not enough to get into the 8th seed.<br />
<br />
The T-Wolves are currently 1-2 record without Love and a total of 6-6 record to add the first 9 games. The rest of the players should step their game up if they want to make the playoffs. By the looks of it, I'm not sure how would this team makes the playoffs if they still play mediocre basketball. With or without Kevin Love still makes no difference. <br />
<br />
They might probably make the playoffs with a .500-type of record in the Eastern Conference, but Western Conference is hell of a tough competition on that side of the fence.<br />
<br />
I just created a Twitter account... <a href="http://twitter.com/PinoyAnalytics" target="_blank"><font color="#ff0000"><b>@PinoyAnalytics</b></font></a>. If you have any questions, suggestions what I should write next, or just want to talk, don't hesitate to contact me there.</blockquote>

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			<title>Making your kid to be a future Olympian</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:20:21 GMT</pubDate>
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2010 Winter Olympics Ice Dancing chamipion Scott Moir and Tessa Virtue when they were kids

As you're watching the Olympics on TV, I'm sure you might be wondering how to make your own kid to be a future athlete. You see Michael Phelps' mother cheering for his son and you're thinking that someday you'll see your kid competing in the big league. Of course every parent wants to provide what's best for their kids because their success will become yours. 


Some parents of the kids I coach in a little league basketball, believes that their kids have a great chance to be basketball star. They videotaped their kids every game, hired their own coach, rent a gym, strictly followed diet and schedules - these are the stuff some parents does to their kids because they believe their kid will soon play in a Division I NCAA school and eventually in the NBA. I know some parents are already discreetly talking to a scout/agent of a professional team (which is bad move and I will explain on another day).


So if you think your kid will be the next Michael Phelps, LeBron James, Jordyn Wieber or Maria Sharapova, I will give you a guide as to how to nurture your kid to be an Olympic athlete!


*GUIDE TO BE A FUTURE ATHLETE*


Stick to the sport where your kid excels at. You may enroll your kid 2 sports/year, that's fine as long as you prioritized the sport where you think your kid will be good at. Your kid should be exposed to the concept of competition. Let him/her experience winning and losing, glory and struggles, success and failures. 


When you're watching a special documentary of an athlete on TV, you will see clips of him/her already playing the sport at a young age. Go on YouTube and you will see a 3 year old is already starting to play tennis and use a senior-type racket. It's all about PRACTICE. If your kid start practicing the craft at an early age, the better chance your kid will be good and compete at a young age. According to the book called "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell, you need *10,000 hours of practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4hPbHIZ6Y&t=2m30s)* to be an expert on your craft. On his book, he explained on how The Beatles achieved their greatness.  As a coach and a believer of the book, I totally believe that hardwork beats natural talent. If you have time to read this book, it is worth the time reading it.


Hire a coach. For starters, it doesn't have to bea  5-star coach right away, as long as the mentor has some exposure in the semi or pro league competitions, has some knowledge in kinesiology, and his/her training philosophy fits best to you and to your kid. 


You must surround your kid with other competitive-minded people (fellow athletes). He/she must have a healthy competitive spirit and be ready to terrorize other competitors when opportunity comes up. Your kid will learn from other competitors as well: what do they eat, know their hopes and goals, playing tactics, and etc. 


Consider home-schooling, *sports academy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxR1lLrkPg)*, or quit school (if necessary). Our very own "pambansang kamao" Manny Pacquiao never set his foot to an educational institution at 14 years old, but instead he went to a boxing gym to train and admitted to the Philippine National Amateur Boxing Team. It's all about setting your priorities straight and the desire to learn on the craft. At 16, he turned pro and wom  on his first 11 fights.

Let your kid join semi or pro competitions - whether be pro boxing, gymnastics, swimming, dance sport, or whatever sport your kid will be in. You have to let go of your kid's arm and let him/her roam alone in the wilderness where competition is fierce. As for basketball, you might have to stay in school and must be at least a high-school graduate and 23 years old to be drafted to the PBA. So might as well go to college through an athletic scholarship at Ateneo, or La Salle. But for other basketball league such as in the NBA or in Europe, they're not really strict on age and educational background for international players as long as they are capable to play in a pro level. Minnesotta Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio signed his first professional basketball contract at 15 years old to play with DKV Juventut in the Liga ACB based in Spain. He was very raw but full of potential - he was paid to practice and improve his skills. How amazing is that!


If your kid get into a semi and pro league where you get cash prizes, if not get funded by the Philippine Sports Commision - that's the time you might have to change coach, hire a Physical Therapist, Dietitian, and rent a training facility and train there anytime you want in private. 


As parents, at the end of the day, it's all about your kid's love and desire of the sport. Maybe it's your love and desire too, but keep in mind that you're raising a child not a racehorse. Leave the constructive criticism to his/her coach, your job is to support your kid through the good and the bad times. 


Good luck and hope to see your kid compete in the next Olympics!]]></description>
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<font size="1">2010 Winter Olympics Ice Dancing chamipion Scott Moir and Tessa Virtue when they were kids</font></div><br />
As you're watching the Olympics on TV, I'm sure you might be wondering how to make your own kid to be a future athlete. You see Michael Phelps' mother cheering for his son and you're thinking that someday you'll see your kid competing in the big league. Of course every parent wants to provide what's best for their kids because their success will become yours. <br />
<br />
<br />
Some parents of the kids I coach in a little league basketball, believes that their kids have a great chance to be basketball star. They videotaped their kids every game, hired their own coach, rent a gym, strictly followed diet and schedules - these are the stuff some parents does to their kids because they believe their kid will soon play in a Division I NCAA school and eventually in the NBA. I know some parents are already discreetly talking to a scout/agent of a professional team (which is bad move and I will explain on another day).<br />
<br />
<br />
So if you think your kid will be the next Michael Phelps, LeBron James, Jordyn Wieber or Maria Sharapova, I will give you a guide as to how to nurture your kid to be an Olympic athlete!<br />
<br />
<br />
<b>GUIDE TO BE A FUTURE ATHLETE</b><br />
<br />
<br />
Stick to the sport where your kid excels at. You may enroll your kid 2 sports/year, that's fine as long as you prioritized the sport where you think your kid will be good at. Your kid should be exposed to the concept of competition. Let him/her experience winning and losing, glory and struggles, success and failures. <br />
<br />
<br />
When you're watching a special documentary of an athlete on TV, you will see clips of him/her already playing the sport at a young age. Go on YouTube and you will see a 3 year old is already starting to play tennis and use a senior-type racket. It's all about PRACTICE. If your kid start practicing the craft at an early age, the better chance your kid will be good and compete at a young age. According to the book called &quot;Outliers&quot; by Malcolm Gladwell, you need <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4hPbHIZ6Y&amp;t=2m30s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font color="#ff0000">10,000 hours of practice</font></a></b> to be an expert on your craft. On his book, he explained on how The Beatles achieved their greatness.  As a coach and a believer of the book, I totally believe that hardwork beats natural talent. If you have time to read this book, it is worth the time reading it.<br />
<br />
<br />
Hire a coach. For starters, it doesn't have to bea  5-star coach right away, as long as the mentor has some exposure in the semi or pro league competitions, has some knowledge in kinesiology, and his/her training philosophy fits best to you and to your kid. <br />
<br />
<br />
You must surround your kid with other competitive-minded people (fellow athletes). He/she must have a healthy competitive spirit and be ready to terrorize other competitors when opportunity comes up. Your kid will learn from other competitors as well: what do they eat, know their hopes and goals, playing tactics, and etc. <br />
<br />
<br />
Consider home-schooling, <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxR1lLrkPg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font color="#ff0000">sports academy</font></a></b>, or quit school (if necessary). Our very own &quot;pambansang kamao&quot; Manny Pacquiao never set his foot to an educational institution at 14 years old, but instead he went to a boxing gym to train and admitted to the Philippine National Amateur Boxing Team. It's all about setting your priorities straight and the desire to learn on the craft. At 16, he turned pro and wom  on his first 11 fights.<br />
<br />
Let your kid join semi or pro competitions - whether be pro boxing, gymnastics, swimming, dance sport, or whatever sport your kid will be in. You have to let go of your kid's arm and let him/her roam alone in the wilderness where competition is fierce. As for basketball, you might have to stay in school and must be at least a high-school graduate and 23 years old to be drafted to the PBA. So might as well go to college through an athletic scholarship at Ateneo, or La Salle. But for other basketball league such as in the NBA or in Europe, they're not really strict on age and educational background for international players as long as they are capable to play in a pro level. Minnesotta Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio signed his first professional basketball contract at 15 years old to play with DKV Juventut in the Liga ACB based in Spain. He was very raw but full of potential - he was paid to practice and improve his skills. How amazing is that!<br />
<br />
<br />
If your kid get into a semi and pro league where you get cash prizes, if not get funded by the Philippine Sports Commision - that's the time you might have to change coach, hire a Physical Therapist, Dietitian, and rent a training facility and train there anytime you want in private. <br />
<br />
<br />
As parents, at the end of the day, it's all about your kid's love and desire of the sport. Maybe it's your love and desire too, but keep in mind that you're raising a child not a racehorse. Leave the constructive criticism to his/her coach, your job is to support your kid through the good and the bad times. <br />
<br />
<br />
Good luck and hope to see your kid compete in the next Olympics!</blockquote>

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			<title>Do you think Olympic athletes should get paid?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:24:35 GMT</pubDate>
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Hours from now, we will witness the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympics. This is for sure an exciting event and seeing athletes from all parts of the world showing off their skills for the Gold Medal. We may know about their physical and comepetitive skills, but do we know about their challenges outside of sports?

We already know that every players on Team USA Men's Basketball Team are a bunch of millionaires just by being an athlete. We don't know how the rest of the athletes in other sports making a living.

Yes, obviously they probably make a living just being an athlete. Yes, players on the Team USA Men's Basketball Team are paid millions of dollars playing in the NBA - particularly the recent college drop-out Anthony Davis just signed a three year contract with the New Orleans Hornets worth $16 million. So meaning, other athletes should be getting as much as the same money, yes?!

WRONG

Unless you're Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, or Jordyn Wieber where you can get tons of money from sponsorship deals and etc., you have limited means of income when you're an Olympian. Not to include Bolt (who's not playing for Team USA), Phelps and Wieber are US' top athletes and top on their respective sports. The US Olympic Committe, who throws $170 mil/year for all sports (training for players + health insurance), but it's only limited to top athletes and other potential money-generating athletes. What if you're an athlete not ranked Top 25 and and trying to make a name in the Olympics? While popular top athletes are receving $400K, not including sponsorship and commercial deals, and full access to training facilities provided by the US Olympic committee, the other athletes that are outside of Top 25 or so are only receiving from $0-$25K and they train probably using that money to compete for the US "Trials" alone. But you having to consider these: rent a training facility, hire a coach, grocery, house or car mortgage or house/apartment rent -- $25K ain't enough.

A few months ago, basketball superstar and now 2x NBA Champion Dwyane Wade said that Olympics athletes should get paid. After he made that comment, the man got slammed with criticisms of being unpatriotic by fellow Americans. 

The US Olympic Committee will "pay" any of their athlete $25K if they get Gold Medal, $15 for Silver, and $10 for Bronze. Imagine if you're a no-name athlete and didn't win any medal. Oh well, thanks for representing our country and see ya in the trials in 4 years.

In the past 4 years, the IOC's revenue went up to $5 billion. This is a non-profit organization, like the Catholic Church, they don't pay taxes! While athletes are competing for the Gold Medal, IOC are making money from sponsorship, commercial, and TV deals! They are making money off from these people. I'd rather not mention the SLC Scandal.

You may not watch all of the events, but you see them at the Opening Ceremony, you should remember as those athletes especially the unpopular ones, are underfunded and often their talents are unappreciated by many. The very least we could do is support and appreciate for devoting their life for this Olympic event regardless which country they're from.

*Read more:*

U.S. Olympic Athletes Are Poor | SportsGrid (http://www.sportsgrid.com/sports-politics/olympic-athletes-are-poor/)

Olympic athletes face financial hardship - Jul. 10, 2012 (http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/10/news/economy/olympic-athletes-financial/index.htm?iid=EL)

International Olympic Committee earns $5 billion in revenue - The London Olympics - MarketWatch (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/specialreport/2012/07/25/ioc%E2%80%99s-four-year-haul-5-billion/)

Olympics 2012: London is ready to welcome the world to the Summer Games,  but NBC's coverage will still be all about the red, white and blue  - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/olympics-2012/olympics-2012-london-ready-world-summer-games-nbc-coverage-red-white-blue-article-1.1122241)]]></description>
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Hours from now, we will witness the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympics. This is for sure an exciting event and seeing athletes from all parts of the world showing off their skills for the Gold Medal. We may know about their physical and comepetitive skills, but do we know about their challenges outside of sports?<br />
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We already know that every players on Team USA Men's Basketball Team are a bunch of millionaires just by being an athlete. We don't know how the rest of the athletes in other sports making a living.<br />
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Yes, obviously they probably make a living just being an athlete. Yes, players on the Team USA Men's Basketball Team are paid millions of dollars playing in the NBA - particularly the recent college drop-out Anthony Davis just signed a three year contract with the New Orleans Hornets worth $16 million. So meaning, other athletes should be getting as much as the same money, yes?!<br />
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WRONG<br />
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Unless you're Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, or Jordyn Wieber where you can get tons of money from sponsorship deals and etc., you have limited means of income when you're an Olympian. Not to include Bolt (who's not playing for Team USA), Phelps and Wieber are US' top athletes and top on their respective sports. The US Olympic Committe, who throws $170 mil/year for all sports (training for players + health insurance), but it's only limited to top athletes and other potential money-generating athletes. What if you're an athlete not ranked Top 25 and and trying to make a name in the Olympics? While popular top athletes are receving $400K, not including sponsorship and commercial deals, and full access to training facilities provided by the US Olympic committee, the other athletes that are outside of Top 25 or so are only receiving from $0-$25K and they train probably using that money to compete for the US &quot;Trials&quot; alone. But you having to consider these: rent a training facility, hire a coach, grocery, house or car mortgage or house/apartment rent -- $25K ain't enough.<br />
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A few months ago, basketball superstar and now 2x NBA Champion Dwyane Wade said that Olympics athletes should get paid. After he made that comment, the man got slammed with criticisms of being unpatriotic by fellow Americans. <br />
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The US Olympic Committee will &quot;pay&quot; any of their athlete $25K if they get Gold Medal, $15 for Silver, and $10 for Bronze. Imagine if you're a no-name athlete and didn't win any medal. Oh well, thanks for representing our country and see ya in the trials in 4 years.<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;">In the past 4 years, the IOC's revenue went up to $5 billion. This is a non-profit organization, like the Catholic Church, they don't pay taxes! While athletes are competing for the Gold Medal, IOC are making money from sponsorship, commercial, and TV deals! They are making money off from these people. I'd rather not mention the SLC Scandal.</div><br />
You may not watch all of the events, but you see them at the Opening Ceremony, you should remember as those athletes especially the unpopular ones, are underfunded and often their talents are unappreciated by many. The very least we could do is support and appreciate for devoting their life for this Olympic event regardless which country they're from.<br />
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<a href="http://www.sportsgrid.com/sports-politics/olympic-athletes-are-poor/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">U.S. Olympic Athletes Are Poor | SportsGrid</a><br />
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<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/10/news/economy/olympic-athletes-financial/index.htm?iid=EL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Olympic athletes face financial hardship - Jul. 10, 2012</a><br />
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<a href="http://blogs.marketwatch.com/specialreport/2012/07/25/ioc%E2%80%99s-four-year-haul-5-billion/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">International Olympic Committee earns $5 billion in revenue - The London Olympics - MarketWatch</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/olympics-2012/olympics-2012-london-ready-world-summer-games-nbc-coverage-red-white-blue-article-1.1122241" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Olympics 2012: London is ready to welcome the world to the Summer Games,  but NBC's coverage will still be all about the red, white and blue  - NY Daily News</a></blockquote>

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I had an argument with an iStoryan here with the handle name doi on Jeremy Lin's decision. He said he understood the betrayal the NYK felt by Lin signing with the Rockets. 

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they didn't offer any cause they were just planning to match any offer that's in the table for Lin and they didn't expect him to sign any offer sheet.  

They felt betrayed cause the 1st offer sheet Houston planned to sign Lin to a four-year, $28.8 million sheet — really three years and $19.5 million, since the Rockets would hold a team option for the fourth year — with the so-called "poison pill" coming in the third year, when the 23-year-old point guard would be due a $9.3 million payout but Lin went back to Houston and rework the deal w/c the is new offer sheet he signed the $25.1 million 3yrs with the "poison pill" in the 3rd year with $14.9 mill. 

He was milking it and Good for him but i understand why the Knickerbuckers felt betrayed cause they were the only team who gave this kid a shot to play in the biggest stage in basketball when everybody was counting him out.  If it wasn't for the Knicks there won't be any "Linsanity"
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did you even bother to read this statement  of course it's a business and he's CHINESE also but i'm saying the Knicks side, why they didn't offer any cause they were giving him freedom to test the market and see how it goes and why didn't they match the offer.  

It was both good and bad for the Knicks so as with Lin.
  
Knicks
Pros: wouldn't have to pay 40-50million to keep a single player in his 3rd who hasn't been tested/proven yet in a full season and no loyalty . You got two great point guards to go along with your Star Laden Roster and who wouldn't steal too much spotlight for the team and your 20mill Superstar who they'll need to perform in order to be a contender. 

Cons: lost a potential star and revenue for the time being cause this is the Knicks we are talking about. 

Lin:
Pros: More moolah and spotlight

Cons: Playing for an average team than playing for one of the Biggest/Famous Teams Basketball where he got his stardom. Let's face it! if it wasn't in NY he wouldn't be a global phenomenon, playing for the Knicks has it's perks. 

Jeremy Lin May Be The Dumbest Harvard Grad Ever - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2012/07/18/jeremy-lin-may-be-the-dumbest-harvard-grad-ever/)
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After these posts , I told him to read the CBA rules and analyze the business strategy of parties involved before he post crazy statements ... and he replied ...


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crazy cause it's true lol and  cool story bro, tell it again.
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First of all , I didn't post any "story" or whatsoever to defend Jeremy Lin other than telling him the NYK could've signed an extension and that's it . Now I got a day off , it's my pleasure to enlighten this kid and also to give facts to everyone on this Jeremy Lin's Free Agency affair . Also I feel like posting a blog .

Doi , I will "tell it again" . Here's my response to you :

Unless you have inside sources on the NYK organization , everything you claim are baseless and no substance . You even stated "they didn't offer any cause _they were giving him freedom_ to test the market" . What the heck ! They don't have any right to put Lin inside the cage cuz he's a Free Agent .

How sure are you that he was "milking it" ? Dolan said that he'll MATCH ANY OFFER by other teams before Free Agency started -- making his bold intention to be public implying that he's ready to wage a bidding war for Lin . He knew he's going to lose Lin in Free Agency cuz his best offer will be only half an amount , if not quarter of money compared to what Lin will potentially receive in the market . When the Rockets presented their 2nd offer to Lin , and Dolan decided to fold his cards . Where was his intention of _matching any offer_ to Lin now ? It was only a PR move for Dolan afterall to make Lin the bad guy -- pure unethical corporate tactic . 

You should check your post before making it everyone read it . I don't even understand how you understood as to why the "Knickerbuckers felt betrayed" ? Is it because he signed an offer sheet from another team ? Just in case you don't know the business , as a Free Agent let alone being a RESTRICTED one , you have to solicit any offer by other teams in good faith . Because you're an RFA , your current team could basically offer and manipulate you to sign a minimum contract cuz you choose to shut down any offers from other teams and that you're putting yourself of getting ripped-off . The tactic to get a best offer as an RFA is to sign a good offer from another team and let your current team match it instead of not making your service available to other teams .

If you think you "understand why the Knickerbuckers felt betrayed" , then you should read this ...


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"Honestly, I preferred New York," Lin said. "But my main goal in free agency was to go to a team that had plans for me and wanted me. I wanted to have fun playing basketball. ... Now I'm definitely relieved."
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SOURCE:* Jeremy Lin on leaving New York Knicks for Houston Rockets - NBA - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/18/jeremy-lin-exclusive/index.html#ixzz21eXaQ8ur)
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Although I agree to your statement that if it wasn't for the NYK there wouldn't be "Linsanity" . The first media headlines he got that he was living on his brother's couch and it was unheard of for someone playing in the NBA . Then when Amare was out for a family funeral , Melo got injured , Davis was gone and other PGs were under-performing and as a player who's living paycheque to paycheque at the time , he had to seized the opportunity to play his best and get a guaranteed contract at least for the remainder of the season . 

Through his own hardwork , he finally get the attention he deserves as he carried the team without those "superstars" . Yes , he did it when he was with the NYK . 

Was the Knicks really "gave Lin a shot" ? Sure , but let the facts be known here that they needed an extra PG because Davis and Shumpert was out and Douglas has no knowledge on D'Antoni's Run & Gun system . *It's a common misconception from all casual fans and bandwagoners that only NYK believed on this guy's abilities when 2 teams thrown him under the bus .* Fact: NYK claiming him off waivers was only for short-term . D'Antoni himself didn't even believe in him .


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“He got lucky because we were playing so bad,’’ D’Antoni said. “You have to have luck in this league and he got a bunch of luck.’’

An ESPN report said the Knicks were considering waiving Lin had he not emerged this past week, because they had eyes for Amityville’s Mike James, playing for the Knicks’ D-League affiliate in Erie, Pa.
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On Lin’s first day as a Knick after being claimed following Shumpert’s injury, D’Antoni gave no guarantee he would remain on the roster for the season.

If Davis returned as scheduled and stayed healthy, Knicks brass was not sold on Lin as a long-term prospect. They were concerned about his perimeter shot and defense. The Knicks could have made the same mistake as the Warriors did in cutting Lin after his rookie year and as the Rockets did by cutting him before this season’s opener.

League scouts said it is extremely rare a player will perform better in the NBA than D-League, but that’s what Lin has done.

The Knicks sent Lin down to Erie in January for two games to get some playing time. But their reason for the move was to keep Lin sharp upon his return to scrimmage against Davis in practice, not to play.

If Davis had not sustained an elbow infection and more back pain before the Knicks’ game against the Rockets on Jan. 28, the franchise’s history would be forever changed.

“He wouldn’t have gotten the chance probably,’’ D’Antoni said, referring to Lin. “I like to think if someone is true to his profession and works hard, he’ll get his chance, but I don’t’ think it always works out that way.’’

*SOURCE:* Jeremy Lin, who hit the winning free throw in the New York Knicks&rsquo; 100-98 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves nearly found himself out of the NBA - NYPOST.com (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/stuck_in_lin_bo_3WB9umW56jyeWP7ZYc3BfP#ixzz21edQZ300)
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I had an argument with an iStoryan here with the handle name doi on Jeremy Lin's decision. He said he understood the betrayal the NYK felt by Lin signing with the Rockets. <br />
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				<div class="message">they didn't offer any cause they were just planning to match any offer that's in the table for Lin and they didn't expect him to sign any offer sheet.  <br />
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They felt betrayed cause the 1st offer sheet Houston planned to sign Lin to a four-year, $28.8 million sheet — really three years and $19.5 million, since the Rockets would hold a team option for the fourth year — with the so-called &quot;poison pill&quot; coming in the third year, when the 23-year-old point guard would be due a $9.3 million payout but Lin went back to Houston and rework the deal w/c the is new offer sheet he signed the $25.1 million 3yrs with the &quot;poison pill&quot; in the 3rd year with $14.9 mill. <br />
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He was milking it and Good for him but i understand why the Knickerbuckers felt betrayed cause they were the only team who gave this kid a shot to play in the biggest stage in basketball when everybody was counting him out.  If it wasn't for the Knicks there won't be any &quot;Linsanity&quot;</div>
			
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				<div class="message">did you even bother to read this statement  of course it's a business and he's CHINESE also but i'm saying the Knicks side, why they didn't offer any cause they were giving him freedom to test the market and see how it goes and why didn't they match the offer.  <br />
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It was both good and bad for the Knicks so as with Lin.<br />
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Knicks<br />
Pros: wouldn't have to pay 40-50million to keep a single player in his 3rd who hasn't been tested/proven yet in a full season and no loyalty . You got two great point guards to go along with your Star Laden Roster and who wouldn't steal too much spotlight for the team and your 20mill Superstar who they'll need to perform in order to be a contender. <br />
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Cons: lost a potential star and <i>revenue for the time being</i> cause this is the Knicks we are talking about. <br />
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Lin:<br />
Pros: More moolah and spotlight<br />
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Cons: Playing for an average team than playing for one of the Biggest/Famous Teams Basketball where he got his stardom. Let's face it! if it wasn't in NY he wouldn't be a global phenomenon, playing for the Knicks has it's perks. <br />
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<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2012/07/18/jeremy-lin-may-be-the-dumbest-harvard-grad-ever/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeremy Lin May Be The Dumbest Harvard Grad Ever - Forbes</a></div>
			
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</div>After these posts , I told him to <font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Verdana">read the CBA rules and analyze the business strategy of parties involved before he post crazy statements ... and he replied ...</span></font><br />
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</div>First of all , I didn't post any &quot;story&quot; or whatsoever to defend Jeremy Lin other than telling him the NYK could've signed an extension and that's it . Now I got a day off , it's my pleasure to enlighten this kid and also to give facts to everyone on this Jeremy Lin's Free Agency affair . Also I feel like posting a blog .<br />
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Doi , I will &quot;tell it again&quot; . Here's my response to you :<br />
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Unless you have inside sources on the NYK organization , everything you claim are baseless and no substance . You even stated <i>&quot;they didn't offer any cause <u>they were giving him freedom</u> to test the market&quot;</i> . What the heck ! They don't have any right to put Lin inside the cage cuz he's a Free Agent .<br />
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How sure are you that he was &quot;milking it&quot; ? Dolan said that he'll MATCH ANY OFFER by other teams before Free Agency started -- making his bold intention to be public implying that he's ready to wage a bidding war for Lin . He knew he's going to lose Lin in Free Agency cuz his best offer will be only half an amount , if not quarter of money compared to what Lin will potentially receive in the market . When the Rockets presented their 2nd offer to Lin , and Dolan decided to fold his cards . Where was his intention of <u>matching any offer</u> to Lin now ? It was only a PR move for Dolan afterall to make Lin the bad guy -- pure unethical corporate tactic . <br />
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You should check your post before making it everyone read it . I don't even understand how you understood as to why the &quot;Knickerbuckers felt betrayed&quot; ? Is it because he signed an offer sheet from another team ? Just in case you don't know the business , as a Free Agent let alone being a RESTRICTED one , you have to solicit any offer by other teams in good faith . Because you're an RFA , your current team could basically offer and manipulate you to sign a minimum contract cuz you choose to shut down any offers from other teams and that you're putting yourself of getting ripped-off . The tactic to get a best offer as an RFA is to sign a good offer from another team and let your current team match it instead of not making your service available to other teams .<br />
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				&quot;Honestly, I preferred New York,&quot; Lin said. &quot;But my main goal in free agency was to go to a team that had plans for me and wanted me. I wanted to have fun playing basketball. ... Now I'm definitely relieved.&quot;<br />
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SOURCE:</font></b> <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/18/jeremy-lin-exclusive/index.html#ixzz21eXaQ8ur" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeremy Lin on leaving New York Knicks for Houston Rockets - NBA - SI.com</a>
			
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</div>Although I agree to your statement that if it wasn't for the NYK there wouldn't be &quot;Linsanity&quot; . The first media headlines he got that he was living on his brother's couch and it was unheard of for someone playing in the NBA . Then when Amare was out for a family funeral , Melo got injured , Davis was gone and other PGs were under-performing and as a player who's living paycheque to paycheque at the time , he had to seized the opportunity to play his best and get a guaranteed contract at least for the remainder of the season . <br />
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Through his own hardwork , he finally get the attention he deserves as he carried the team without those &quot;superstars&quot; . Yes , he did it when he was with the NYK . <br />
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Was the Knicks really &quot;gave Lin a shot&quot; ? Sure , but let the facts be known here that they needed an extra PG because Davis and Shumpert was out and Douglas has no knowledge on D'Antoni's Run &amp; Gun system . <b>It's a common misconception from all casual fans and bandwagoners that only NYK believed on this guy's abilities when 2 teams thrown him under the bus .</b> Fact: NYK claiming him off waivers was only for short-term . D'Antoni himself didn't even believe in him .<br />
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An ESPN report said the Knicks were considering waiving Lin had he not emerged this past week, because they had eyes for Amityville’s Mike James, playing for the Knicks’ D-League affiliate in Erie, Pa.
			
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				On Lin’s first day as a Knick after being claimed following Shumpert’s injury, D’Antoni gave no guarantee he would remain on the roster for the season.<br />
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If Davis returned as scheduled and stayed healthy, Knicks brass was not sold on Lin as a long-term prospect. They were concerned about his perimeter shot and defense. The Knicks could have made the same mistake as the Warriors did in cutting Lin after his rookie year and as the Rockets did by cutting him before this season’s opener.<br />
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League scouts said it is extremely rare a player will perform better in the NBA than D-League, but that’s what Lin has done.<br />
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The Knicks sent Lin down to Erie in January for two games to get some playing time. But their reason for the move was to keep Lin sharp upon his return to scrimmage against Davis in practice, not to play.<br />
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If Davis had not sustained an elbow infection and more back pain before the Knicks’ game against the Rockets on Jan. 28, the franchise’s history would be forever changed.<br />
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“He wouldn’t have gotten the chance probably,’’ D’Antoni said, referring to Lin. “I like to think if someone is true to his profession and works hard, he’ll get his chance, but I don’t’ think it always works out that way.’’<br />
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<font color="#ff0000"><b>SOURCE:</b></font> <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/stuck_in_lin_bo_3WB9umW56jyeWP7ZYc3BfP#ixzz21edQZ300" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeremy Lin, who hit the winning free throw in the New York Knicks&amp;rsquo; 100-98 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves nearly found himself out of the NBA - NYPOST.com</a>
			
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"All Warfare is based on deception."
~ Sun Tzu

Steve Nash is reportedly giving the NYK the time to make a Sign & Trade with Nash's original team, the Phoenix Suns. We could say that he's hinting that his preferred destination now is the New York Knicks. So the Raptors GM, Bryan Colangelo made a direct strike which he blocked NYK of the possibility on facilitating a S&T with the Phoenix Suns this morning by signing Landry Fields a Qualifying Offer worth $20 million.


A few days ago, the Houston Rockets offered Omer Asik worth $25 million over three years inorder the Chicago Bulls wouldn't match their offer. Why am I bringing up this Houston Rockets and Omer Asik deal on this blog? And Landry Fields? Ok, let me introduce to you the "Poison Pill" contract.


Also known as the "Gilbert Arenas Rule" is a salary structure by a team offered to a player (usually works well to a Restricted Free Agent) that would make it dificult for his original team or other team/s to match. They named it a Gilbert Arenas rule when Arenas himself became a Restricted Free Agent after playing with the Golden State Warriors (who picked Arenas in the 2nd round in 2001), the Washington Wizards came up with the salary structure that would make it difficult for the Warriors to match the offer - if they would've matched, they will go beyond the cap and will pay luxury tax. So the Warriors didn't match the Wizards' offer.  In 2003, Gilbert Arenas signed a 6 years contract with the Washington Wizards worth $60 million. 


If you think a team is overpaying a player, this could be the reason. Like the girl you really like, you might have to do whatever it takes to get her. In the NBA, you use the Poison Pill contract! The same goes in corporate business too (see: Shareholder rights plan).


When the Raptors knew the ONLY way the Knicks will get Nash is through S&T (Obviously, Fields will be part of the trade), Colangelo blocked it before the Knicks GM's secretary could click on Microsoft Word to type the trade proposal. The Knicks can ONLY sign Landry Fields to a 3-year contract (using MLE) strictly $3 mil/year.  The Raptors however can sign like $3 mil in the first 2 years, and $14 mil in the 3rd year (see how the salary is structured?) -- if NYK would match this, they wouldn't be able to include him on any trades (for 3 months) since re-signing him is through signing the MLE, not using the S&T option. If the NYK would go the unexpected option by keeping him instead, they would go beyond the cap in 3 years which they will have about $71 mil on the cap from only 4 players. They don't wanna pay $2.50 for every dollar they exceeds assuming the cap remains at $60 mil. Also, it would be invalid signing Nash through MLE since that option was used on Landry Fields. If the Knicks trade Douglas, Shumpert, Balkman, Gadzuric, and even with Jeremy Lin (it would be  bad idea if they trade him for a 38 year old PG), it would put Phoenix Suns in a difficult financial situation to get those players because they just signed Eric Gordon a QO worth $58 mil. As reported earlier the Hornets will match it, so Suns will sign another offer bigger than that so it will now be even more difficult of getting those players from the Knicks. So it's clear the Suns will not participate any blockbuster trades now unless they will give up on pursuing Eric Gordon.


Raptors signing a QO to Fields makes the Knicks GM scratch his head cuz he's now in a difficult situation on bringing Nash to the Knicks. S&T option for the Knicks is not available anymore. Now with Deron Williams just re-signed with Brooklyn Nets, the Dallas Mavericks could now be in the mix of pursuing Nash. This will now become a bidding game. By having multiple bidders, the price will go up. Whoever the team has a bigger cap space will win the player.]]></description>
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&quot;All Warfare is based on deception.&quot;</i><br />
~ Sun Tzu<br />
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Steve Nash is reportedly giving the NYK the time to make a Sign &amp; Trade with Nash's original team, the Phoenix Suns. We could say that he's hinting that his preferred destination now is the New York Knicks. So the Raptors GM, Bryan Colangelo made a direct strike which he blocked NYK of the possibility on facilitating a S&amp;T with the Phoenix Suns this morning by signing Landry Fields a Qualifying Offer worth $20 million.</div><br />
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A few days ago, the Houston Rockets offered Omer Asik worth $25 million over three years inorder the Chicago Bulls wouldn't match their offer. Why am I bringing up this Houston Rockets and Omer Asik deal on this blog? And Landry Fields? Ok, let me introduce to you the &quot;Poison Pill&quot; contract.<br />
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Also known as the &quot;Gilbert Arenas Rule&quot; is a salary structure by a team offered to a player (usually works well to a Restricted Free Agent) that would make it dificult for his original team or other team/s to match. They named it a Gilbert Arenas rule when Arenas himself became a Restricted Free Agent after playing with the Golden State Warriors (who picked Arenas in the 2nd round in 2001), the Washington Wizards came up with the salary structure that would make it difficult for the Warriors to match the offer - if they would've matched, they will go beyond the cap and will pay luxury tax. So the Warriors didn't match the Wizards' offer.  In 2003, Gilbert Arenas signed a 6 years contract with the Washington Wizards worth $60 million. <br />
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If you think a team is overpaying a player, this could be the reason. Like the girl you really like, you might have to do whatever it takes to get her. In the NBA, you use the Poison Pill contract! The same goes in corporate business too (see: Shareholder rights plan).<br />
<br />
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When the Raptors knew the ONLY way the Knicks will get Nash is through S&amp;T (Obviously, Fields will be part of the trade), Colangelo blocked it before the Knicks GM's secretary could click on Microsoft Word to type the trade proposal. The Knicks can ONLY sign Landry Fields to a 3-year contract (using MLE) strictly $3 mil/year.  The Raptors however can sign like $3 mil in the first 2 years, and $14 mil in the 3rd year (see how the salary is structured?) -- if NYK would match this, they wouldn't be able to include him on any trades (for 3 months) since re-signing him is through signing the MLE, not using the S&amp;T option. If the NYK would go the unexpected option by keeping him instead, they would go beyond the cap in 3 years which they will have about $71 mil on the cap from only 4 players. They don't wanna pay $2.50 for every dollar they exceeds assuming the cap remains at $60 mil. Also, it would be invalid signing Nash through MLE since that option was used on Landry Fields. If the Knicks trade Douglas, Shumpert, Balkman, Gadzuric, and even with Jeremy Lin (it would be  bad idea if they trade him for a 38 year old PG), it would put Phoenix Suns in a difficult financial situation to get those players because they just signed Eric Gordon a QO worth $58 mil. As reported earlier the Hornets will match it, so Suns will sign another offer bigger than that so it will now be even more difficult of getting those players from the Knicks. So it's clear the Suns will not participate any blockbuster trades now unless they will give up on pursuing Eric Gordon.<br />
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Raptors signing a QO to Fields makes the Knicks GM scratch his head cuz he's now in a difficult situation on bringing Nash to the Knicks. S&amp;T option for the Knicks is not available anymore. Now with Deron Williams just re-signed with Brooklyn Nets, the Dallas Mavericks could now be in the mix of pursuing Nash. This will now become a bidding game. By having multiple bidders, the price will go up. Whoever the team has a bigger cap space will win the player.</blockquote>

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			<title>Raptors meets with Kid Canada on Canada Day</title>
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It's Canada Day today and I'm here right now at the secret HQ of Le Blog du FAQ in Muskoka, ON with family. Great weather. Peaceful environment. We don't have internet connection at my cottage so I'm sailing the boat to find an unsecured internet connection and to have a short quiet moment with myself. Today is about spending time with my family so I won't be online for long. Plus, I don't want to miss the BBQ!

I'm just checking the latest news of the Raptors regarding Nash. Coincidentally, July 1 is not only Canada Day, but it's the first day of Free Agency!

It seems that the Raptors has a huge chance of convincing Nash to come back home and end his wonderful career here. On the other hand, US journalists are trying to make their followers think the New York Knicks can sign anyone. The Raptors executives flew from LA to NY last night using MLSE boss Larry Tenenbaum's private jet (could be still the same jet that Vince Carter used to attend his college graduation) to be the first team to meet with Nash in the morning.

Here's Steve Nash's thoughts on the Raptors:

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"The Raptors would be one of those teams where you're probably not going there to win a championship in the next three years. For me it'd be going home to Canada, to a great city, and trying to help an organization move forward."


*SOURCE:* Steve Nash examines options, says staying on Phoenix Suns no longer 'a home run' - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8115302/steve-nash-examines-options-says-staying-phoenix-suns-no-longer-home-run)
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Multiple reports is that the Raptors are offering $36 mil for 3 years - which apparently is at the ballpark that Nash and his agent were actually aiming for. Also, part of luring Nash, they are also offering the Canadian citizen a "post-career opportunities" but the exact job position is still unknown at this time but I'm guessing is that Nash would probably get an assistant coaching or an office gig with the Raptors when his contract expires.

This would be a great move by the Raptors if they get Nash. A slight upgrade in the PG position would definately help Bargnani and Jonas Valanciunas. If Jose Calderon made Amir Johnson played like a beast last season, I'm sure Nash could do more for this young Power Forward.

There are also reports that the Raptors are interested on bringing Goran Dragic and/or Nic Batum so the Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo is attempting to have the "Run & Gun" Era of which he built during his time in Phoenix Suns. 

I hope Steve Nash will finish his career here. 

For now, I'm out. I'll probably post a new blog when I get back to the big city. BTW, here's the view of the place where I am right now...

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It's Canada Day today and I'm here right now at the secret HQ of Le Blog du FAQ in Muskoka, ON with family. Great weather. Peaceful environment. We don't have internet connection at my cottage so I'm sailing the boat to find an unsecured internet connection and to have a short quiet moment with myself. Today is about spending time with my family so I won't be online for long. Plus, I don't want to miss the BBQ!<br />
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I'm just checking the latest news of the Raptors regarding Nash. Coincidentally, July 1 is not only Canada Day, but it's the first day of Free Agency!<br />
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It seems that the Raptors has a huge chance of convincing Nash to come back home and end his wonderful career here. On the other hand, US journalists are trying to make their followers think the New York Knicks can sign anyone. The Raptors executives flew from LA to NY last night using MLSE boss Larry Tenenbaum's private jet (could be still the same jet that Vince Carter used to attend his college graduation) to be the first team to meet with Nash in the morning.<br />
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Here's Steve Nash's thoughts on the Raptors:<br />
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				&quot;The Raptors would be one of those teams where you're probably not going there to win a championship in the next three years. For me it'd be going home to Canada, to a great city, and trying to help an organization move forward.&quot;<br />
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<font color="#ff0000"><b>SOURCE:</b></font> <a href="http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8115302/steve-nash-examines-options-says-staying-phoenix-suns-no-longer-home-run" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Steve Nash examines options, says staying on Phoenix Suns no longer 'a home run' - ESPN</a>
			
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</div>Multiple reports is that the Raptors are offering $36 mil for 3 years - which apparently is at the ballpark that Nash and his agent were actually aiming for. Also, part of luring Nash, they are also offering the Canadian citizen a &quot;post-career opportunities&quot; but the exact job position is still unknown at this time but I'm guessing is that Nash would probably get an assistant coaching or an office gig with the Raptors when his contract expires.<br />
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This would be a great move by the Raptors if they get Nash. A slight upgrade in the PG position would definately help Bargnani and Jonas Valanciunas. If Jose Calderon made Amir Johnson played like a beast last season, I'm sure Nash could do more for this young Power Forward.<br />
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There are also reports that the Raptors are interested on bringing Goran Dragic and/or Nic Batum so the Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo is attempting to have the &quot;Run &amp; Gun&quot; Era of which he built during his time in Phoenix Suns. <br />
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I hope Steve Nash will finish his career here. <br />
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For now, I'm out. I'll probably post a new blog when I get back to the big city. BTW, here's the view of the place where I am right now...<br />
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			<description><![CDATA[I was hoping to talk to my friend who works for the Raptors to ask for his insights regarding the outcome of the draft. He was at the Raptors War Room and witnessed Terrence Ross, Quincy Acy, and Tomislav Zubcic became members of the Raptors team. But due to the fact I'm the only Raptors fan here, it looks like no one would take interest on reading it. So I decided to talk to pierced, who's an undisputed Boston Celtics fan, and one of the most respected posters here in the Basketball section. 


For now, he agreed to share his thoughts on this year's draft regarding his favourite team. For those who weren't aware, the Boston Celtics got #21, #22, and #51 which they drafted Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, and Kris Joseph respectively. 


*When the Boston Celtics was on the clock, who was your desired players for the #21, #22 selection? Were you kind of surprised that Jarred Sullinger was picked by Danny Ainge, let alone still available in the late 1st round? Were you satisfied with the players being selected in the first round ?
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I had 4 picks actually, ‘twas either (in order) Royce White, Andrew Nicholson, Jared Sullinger, or Perry Jones.. Basically these players addressed the need for the team.. I didn’t want any part of Fab Melo since he’s got a low Bball IQ and was very raw.. I thought DA would’ve traded up to get Royce White who I thought would’ve helped the Celtics Big + the fact that I love complete players and Royce was a walking triple double.. He would’ve been able to help the Celtics right away. Andrew Nicholson would’ve been a very good project for the team.. He was very long and athletic and he’s a more polished offensive player compared to Fab Melo however Fab was a defensive big but was more raw than Nicholson offensively.. I’d take a more polished offensive big since defense will just come along specially being in a very good defensive team like the Boston Celtics. Jared Sullinger I thought was the most polished offensive player of the players I picked for the team however what backed me off wasn’t his medical issues but he reminded me of Glen Davis, very low gravity player and who’s shot was almost always blocked down low and Perry Jones well, I like athletic bigs..

Im really don’t look at who the teams are drafting since I only check the Boston Celtics.. But I strongly believe that the draft was rigged and that would be another story in another day
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*What do you think of Jarred Sullinger and Fab Melo?
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When the Celtics was on the board, White & Nicholson were already taken and the next best player available was Jarred Sullinger and was pretty much happy with him since we were getting a player that can help the team right away however I thought it would’ve been better if DA went for Perry Jones III with the 22nd pick.. Jarred’s a prolific scorer and is a very good rebounder who would be able to help the team’s concern right away.. Perry Jones III would’ve been an added asset to the team as well.. Fab Melo is a project, he’s very raw offensively and doesn’t have any good offensive moves other than putbacks and alley oops.. He’s a very solid defensive player for me considering that he was a soccer player before playing organized basketball 5yrs ago.. He’s been dubbed the next coming of Perk, here’s to hoping he pans out..
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*In the 2nd round, the Boston Celtics got the #51 pick? What player was on your mind?
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DA was really high on Doron Lamb and he was the only player I checked in the 2nd rd if the team was able to draft him..
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*What do you think of Kris Joseph?
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As per DA he’s a very good prospect also as he’s an athletic forward who can be a very good defensive player too.. he can be that defensive stopper for a team and Im hoping DA gets a steal here but considering that he was picked late tells us something.. Hope he succeeds though..
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*If we had to reverse the Draft Order, who would you like to pick at #9 and #10?
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I thought Detroit could’ve gone with Kendall Marshall who’d be their starting PG.. He would’ve brought stability to the team and would’ve been a better compliment to Monroe.. I thought Austin Rivers was a good pic for NOH.. It’d mean Gordon will be gone and he’d be a good replacement considering his offensive prowess.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">I was hoping to talk to my friend who works for the Raptors to ask for his insights regarding the outcome of the draft. He was at the Raptors War Room and witnessed Terrence Ross, Quincy Acy, and Tomislav Zubcic became members of the Raptors team. But due to the fact I'm the only Raptors fan here, it looks like no one would take interest on reading it. So I decided to talk to pierced, who's an undisputed Boston Celtics fan, and one of the most respected posters here in the Basketball section. <br />
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For now, he agreed to share his thoughts on this year's draft regarding his favourite team. For those who weren't aware, the Boston Celtics got #21, #22, and #51 which they drafted Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, and Kris Joseph respectively. <br />
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<b>When the Boston Celtics was on the clock, who was your desired players for the #21, #22 selection? Were you kind of surprised that Jarred Sullinger was picked by Danny Ainge, let alone still available in the late 1st round? Were you satisfied with the players being selected in the first round ?<br />
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I had 4 picks actually, ‘twas either (in order) Royce White, Andrew Nicholson, Jared Sullinger, or Perry Jones.. Basically these players addressed the need for the team.. I didn’t want any part of Fab Melo since he’s got a low Bball IQ and was very raw.. I thought DA would’ve traded up to get Royce White who I thought would’ve helped the Celtics Big + the fact that I love complete players and Royce was a walking triple double.. He would’ve been able to help the Celtics right away. Andrew Nicholson would’ve been a very good project for the team.. He was very long and athletic and he’s a more polished offensive player compared to Fab Melo however Fab was a defensive big but was more raw than Nicholson offensively.. I’d take a more polished offensive big since defense will just come along specially being in a very good defensive team like the Boston Celtics. Jared Sullinger I thought was the most polished offensive player of the players I picked for the team however what backed me off wasn’t his medical issues but he reminded me of Glen Davis, very low gravity player and who’s shot was almost always blocked down low and Perry Jones well, I like athletic bigs..<br />
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Im really don’t look at who the teams are drafting since I only check the Boston Celtics.. But I strongly believe that the draft was rigged and that would be another story in another day</i>
			
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When the Celtics was on the board, White &amp; Nicholson were already taken and the next best player available was Jarred Sullinger and was pretty much happy with him since we were getting a player that can help the team right away however I thought it would’ve been better if DA went for Perry Jones III with the 22nd pick.. Jarred’s a prolific scorer and is a very good rebounder who would be able to help the team’s concern right away.. Perry Jones III would’ve been an added asset to the team as well.. Fab Melo is a project, he’s very raw offensively and doesn’t have any good offensive moves other than putbacks and alley oops.. He’s a very solid defensive player for me considering that he was a soccer player before playing organized basketball 5yrs ago.. He’s been dubbed the next coming of Perk, here’s to hoping he pans out..</i>
			
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As per DA he’s a very good prospect also as he’s an athletic forward who can be a very good defensive player too.. he can be that defensive stopper for a team and Im hoping DA gets a steal here but considering that he was picked late tells us something.. Hope he succeeds though..</i>
			
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I thought Detroit could’ve gone with Kendall Marshall who’d be their starting PG.. He would’ve brought stability to the team and would’ve been a better compliment to Monroe.. I thought Austin Rivers was a good pic for NOH.. It’d mean Gordon will be gone and he’d be a good replacement considering his offensive prowess.</i>
			
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The Miami Heat "fans" are attempting to appear humble as they claim that their team are the underdog in this series against the Oklahoma City Thunder. This team has been the recipients of criticisms since the 3 turds who happened to be caliber All-Stars joined forces to take the easy way of getting the championship ring. Still, the fans of this team has the audacity to post in this forum that their team are the underdog.


An iStoryan pointed out the reason why they're the underdog because that's what an ESPN analyst said on one of their shows. LOL! Relying on those analysts too much? I bet most of their posts came from those self-applauding analysts who take advantage of their interns to do their research.


Let's see whether if they are indeed the underdog in this series.


This is the numbers of both team performance (starting lineup) in this year's Playoffs and adjusted in 48 min pace. In every game, match-up is very critical (even Sun Tzu would agree) and by looking at match-ups instensively, we can  actually see the outcome of the series.


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At the tip-off, the Thunder are already in an disadvantaged position as their starting lineup only produced 90.1 PTS (below the average of entire team's production) compared to the Heat's 100.0 PTS. OKC's starting line-up has 55.0 in Win% whereas the Heat's starting line-up that has 61.1% 


Heat's Offensive Rating is at 108.4 whilst OKC only at 99.1. 


If you've seen the series, it is obvious that Miami Heat are the dominant team. As for the OKC Thunder, Fisher has been great off the bench, and Harden is living up to his '6th man of the year' performance. If a match-up against both teams' bench players, I wouldn't bet all my life savings to the Heat. But speaking of line-ups, Heat got the advantage. This series, both teams are using bench players wisely to complement their stars, and they're not using the hockey style 'line changes'.


Many fans want the Heat to lose because of what they did last year. It would be like porn for them if the Heat lose again. But describing them as the underdog is beyond me.]]></description>
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The Miami Heat &quot;fans&quot; are attempting to appear humble as they claim that their team are the underdog in this series against the Oklahoma City Thunder. This team has been the recipients of criticisms since the 3 turds who happened to be caliber All-Stars joined forces to take the easy way of getting the championship ring. Still, the fans of this team has the audacity to post in this forum that their team are the underdog.<br />
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An iStoryan pointed out the reason why they're the underdog because that's what an ESPN analyst said on one of their shows. LOL! Relying on those analysts too much? I bet most of their posts came from those self-applauding analysts who take advantage of their interns to do their research.<br />
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Let's see whether if they are indeed the underdog in this series.<br />
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This is the numbers of both team performance (starting lineup) in this year's Playoffs and adjusted in 48 min pace. In every game, match-up is very critical (even Sun Tzu would agree) and by looking at match-ups instensively, we can  actually see the outcome of the series.<br />
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At the tip-off, the Thunder are already in an disadvantaged position as their starting lineup only produced 90.1 PTS (below the average of entire team's production) compared to the Heat's 100.0 PTS. OKC's starting line-up has 55.0 in Win% whereas the Heat's starting line-up that has 61.1% <br />
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Heat's Offensive Rating is at 108.4 whilst OKC only at 99.1. <br />
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If you've seen the series, it is obvious that Miami Heat are the dominant team. As for the OKC Thunder, Fisher has been great off the bench, and Harden is living up to his '6th man of the year' performance. If a match-up against both teams' bench players, I wouldn't bet all my life savings to the Heat. But speaking of line-ups, Heat got the advantage. This series, both teams are using bench players wisely to complement their stars, and they're not using the hockey style 'line changes'.<br />
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Many fans want the Heat to lose because of what they did last year. It would be like porn for them if the Heat lose again. But describing them as the underdog is beyond me.</blockquote>

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			<title>Bandwagoners Domination</title>
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Every year , threads on the Basketball section of this fine forum are infested with bandwagoners posting ridiculous one-liner blurts and trolling that a few days ago it led the locking of the Oklahoma City Thunder thread. Speaking of which, I'm astounded by the fact that there are a lot of posters here are claiming that they are OKC fan. I doubt they know the whole situation of the franchise's relocation from Seattle to OKC. It doesn't matter for them anyways, they only want to cheer for a winning team. A typical bandwagoner mentality.

If anyone want to know what is a bandwagoner -- it is a person who cheers for a team only because they are winning. Once the team starts losing or having a disappointing season, they will jump to another winning team and will claim that they are a fan. 

Honestly, when you decide to be a fan of a team, act like one. Don't keep jumping to different teams every season like a whore being with different guys every night.

I hate visiting the Basketball section when the Playoffs and the Finals start. Posters tend to be an intense "basketball fans" once the Playoffs starts and cheering gleefully for their selected team. They will participate into debates to defend their team and will go throwing personal attacks to prove their argument. They're not even a REAL basketball fan since they ONLY watch their team play and doesn't even bother watching other teams play. I can spot a bandwagoner because they often post an article or from a self-applauding basketball "analyst" employed at a major sports network as their main back-up statement. They would say, "it's true cuz that's what JVG said last night" you know that type of BS. You can't win a debate against them because they think their team that they just jumped to is better than yours. Any argument, stats you would present are irrelevant to them. As an anti-bandwagoners, their arguments and opinion doesn't count. I don't even waste my time interacting with them here in the forum. They have a low basketball IQ to begin with and only talk about their team.

I remember the spark of Jeremy Lin's media hype and New York Knicks thread ressurected from the 10th page, and someone even made a Jeremy Lin thread. They were cheering for the Knicks and thought if an Asian can play in the NBA, they must have a shot too! When he got injured, both threads went silent.

A lot of them always engage into pipedream trade proposals and player signings with no regard to the Collective Bargaining Agreement which was the main reason why we had the lockout last year. After the 2011 NBA Finals, the Basketball section became a ghost town and very few who constantly posted on the NBA Lockout thread. Bandwagoners made occasional visits and post nonsense one-liners that starts with "Mayta mahuman na ning lockout..."

It makes my blood boil when they tell me "your Raptors sucks while my team is going to the Playoffs" as if they are true fans of that team who's going to the Playoffs. I totally admit the Raptors aren't doing well since Vince Carter left but that didn't make me jump to another team, because as a fan, you have to stick with your team through thick and thin. I've been a Raptors fan since 2000 when we moved to Canada on the same year. It was the season when the Raptors went to the playoffs where Vince Carter missed a game-winning shot vs Philadelphia 76ers during the 2001 Eastern Conference Semi-finals that would've advanced the team to Eastern Conference Finals. Many blamed him for attending his college graduation. In the winter of 2004, VC was traded to the NJ Nets where Alonzo Mourning refused to play in Toronto and that's where the team headed for a downward spiral. In 2006, the team in the tunnel found a glimmer of light when they hired Bryan Colangelo. He built the team around Chris Bosh, drafted Andrea Bargnani, and turning water into wine by trading Charlie Villanueva for TJ Ford, Rafael Arujo for Kris Humphries, and noticed the potential of Jamario Moon that helped the team off the bench. Having a reputation of making bold moves, some transaction turned out to be bad like when he acquired Jermaine O'Neal for TJ Ford and the pick that could've gotten us Roy Hibbert, and signing Hedo. When Bosh left for Miami in 2010, the Raptors was back rebuilding all over again but I'm still cheering for them because that's what a fan would do -- cheering the team through the good and the bad times. Not leaving them for a new one.


Miami Heat thread has gathered a lot of "fans" since the troika amEGOS was formed on July of 2010 which was deliberately planned since the Beijing Summer Olympics. Collusion at its finest that Dan Gilbert of Cleveland Cavaliers made a request to investigate which most of the team owners refused. The fans population skyrocketed in the Miami Heat bandwagon now that they are in the Finals for the second time in a row. 

Oklahoma City Thunder has been the favourites for the bandwagoners. I find it very funny because not too long ago this team was unknown. But a few years appearing in the Playoffs and now in the Finals, a lot of posters are now leeching to this team. If you have to ask them how did they start cheering for them... they would answer, "well, they're in the Finals!"

As long as the Finals is far from over yet, bandwagoners are infesting the Basketball section. From a persective of a real basketball fan, it's really annoying like little girls singing "Call Me Maybe"]]></description>
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Every year , threads on the Basketball section of this fine forum are infested with bandwagoners posting ridiculous one-liner blurts and trolling that a few days ago it led the locking of the Oklahoma City Thunder thread. Speaking of which, I'm astounded by the fact that there are a lot of posters here are claiming that they are OKC fan. I doubt they know the whole situation of the franchise's relocation from Seattle to OKC. It doesn't matter for them anyways, they only want to cheer for a winning team. A typical bandwagoner mentality.<br />
<br />
If anyone want to know what is a bandwagoner -- it is a person who cheers for a team only because they are winning. Once the team starts losing or having a disappointing season, they will jump to another winning team and will claim that they are a fan. <br />
<br />
Honestly, when you decide to be a fan of a team, act like one. Don't keep jumping to different teams every season like a whore being with different guys every night.<br />
<br />
I hate visiting the Basketball section when the Playoffs and the Finals start. Posters tend to be an intense &quot;basketball fans&quot; once the Playoffs starts and cheering gleefully for their selected team. They will participate into debates to defend their team and will go throwing personal attacks to prove their argument. They're not even a REAL basketball fan since they ONLY watch their team play and doesn't even bother watching other teams play. I can spot a bandwagoner because they often post an article or from a self-applauding basketball &quot;analyst&quot; employed at a major sports network as their main back-up statement. They would say, &quot;it's true cuz that's what JVG said last night&quot; you know that type of BS. You can't win a debate against them because they think their team that they just jumped to is better than yours. Any argument, stats you would present are irrelevant to them. As an anti-bandwagoners, their arguments and opinion doesn't count. I don't even waste my time interacting with them here in the forum. They have a low basketball IQ to begin with and only talk about their team.<br />
<br />
I remember the spark of Jeremy Lin's media hype and New York Knicks thread ressurected from the 10th page, and someone even made a Jeremy Lin thread. They were cheering for the Knicks and thought if an Asian can play in the NBA, they must have a shot too! When he got injured, both threads went silent.<br />
<br />
A lot of them always engage into pipedream trade proposals and player signings with no regard to the Collective Bargaining Agreement which was the main reason why we had the lockout last year. After the 2011 NBA Finals, the Basketball section became a ghost town and very few who constantly posted on the NBA Lockout thread. Bandwagoners made occasional visits and post nonsense one-liners that starts with &quot;Mayta mahuman na ning lockout...&quot;<br />
<br />
It makes my blood boil when they tell me &quot;your Raptors sucks while my team is going to the Playoffs&quot; as if they are true fans of that team who's going to the Playoffs. I totally admit the Raptors aren't doing well since Vince Carter left but that didn't make me jump to another team, because as a fan, you have to stick with your team through thick and thin. I've been a Raptors fan since 2000 when we moved to Canada on the same year. It was the season when the Raptors went to the playoffs where Vince Carter missed a game-winning shot vs Philadelphia 76ers during the 2001 Eastern Conference Semi-finals that would've advanced the team to Eastern Conference Finals. Many blamed him for attending his college graduation. In the winter of 2004, VC was traded to the NJ Nets where Alonzo Mourning refused to play in Toronto and that's where the team headed for a downward spiral. In 2006, the team in the tunnel found a glimmer of light when they hired Bryan Colangelo. He built the team around Chris Bosh, drafted Andrea Bargnani, and turning water into wine by trading Charlie Villanueva for TJ Ford, Rafael Arujo for Kris Humphries, and noticed the potential of Jamario Moon that helped the team off the bench. Having a reputation of making bold moves, some transaction turned out to be bad like when he acquired Jermaine O'Neal for TJ Ford and the pick that could've gotten us Roy Hibbert, and signing Hedo. When Bosh left for Miami in 2010, the Raptors was back rebuilding all over again but I'm still cheering for them because that's what a fan would do -- cheering the team through the good and the bad times. Not leaving them for a new one.<br />
<br />
<br />
Miami Heat thread has gathered a lot of &quot;fans&quot; since the troika amEGOS was formed on July of 2010 which was deliberately planned since the Beijing Summer Olympics. Collusion at its finest that Dan Gilbert of Cleveland Cavaliers made a request to investigate which most of the team owners refused. The fans population skyrocketed in the Miami Heat bandwagon now that they are in the Finals for the second time in a row. <br />
<br />
Oklahoma City Thunder has been the favourites for the bandwagoners. I find it very funny because not too long ago this team was unknown. But a few years appearing in the Playoffs and now in the Finals, a lot of posters are now leeching to this team. If you have to ask them how did they start cheering for them... they would answer, &quot;well, they're in the Finals!&quot;<br />
<br />
As long as the Finals is far from over yet, bandwagoners are infesting the Basketball section. From a persective of a real basketball fan, it's really annoying like little girls singing &quot;Call Me Maybe&quot;</blockquote>

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