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Originally Posted by mcduaneski ngano man disadvantage ang lpg? what do you mean its bad for the health? mine or the car's? your health and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcduaneski View Post
    ngano man disadvantage ang lpg? what do you mean its bad for the health? mine or the car's?
    your health and engine
    Last edited by JeffCee; 03-21-2009 at 09:09 AM.

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    Mao nay gipatuo sa mga tao, mas maayo ang fuel efficiency sa EFI ug kung motuo ka, peldi na ka daan.
    Most cars nga EFI, di ka kabuot sa fuel mixture, di pud ka kapatuyang ug paubos sa idle nga kaya ra sa imong makina ug kung gusto ka mahimo na nimo tanan sa mga bag-o nga EFI kinahanglan ka ug programmable nga ECU for your new fuel map. Sa carburetor, naa na tanan gihatag para mausab pa nimo or sa maayong mechanic. Sayon pud mag puno ug improvement sa simple nga system nga walay daghan magsamok nga wala kinahanglana nga electronics. Lesser parts to watch, lesser maintenance cost.

    Pwerting sayona ma improve ang carburetor setup than a fuel injected setup and it won't cost you a lot than improving an EFI aron lang makadaginot ka sa fuel while improving engine performance. Sa una daghan pud moingon nga kung gusto ka ug maayong response ug performance, kinahanglan mopuno ka ug fuel. Karon you can spend less on fuel and still get good engine performance.

    Locally distributed LPG fuel is not good for your engine if you ask me. Locally distributed gasoline is not even better either but lesser ang problema nga mahimo sa imong makina. Dali mo deteriorate ang imong spark plugs kung LPG imong fuel. Dali makadaot sa metal ang local LPG fuel unless you reform it first before feeding to the combustion chamber. If ever maka save man ka sa fuel, di pud magdugay imong makina, peldi gihapon imong bulsa. Imagine kung dali mahilis ang metal sa spark plugs using LPG, naunsa na pud kaha ang mga silingan nga metal inside sa combustion chamber when you use LPG?
    Ask a well experienced mechanic on history sa LPG converted cars nga na ablihan nila, they will tell you unsay nakita nila nga nahitabo sa makina and compare that sa nakita nila sa gasoline ang gamit. It's not the LPG in general that is the problem, it's the quality of LPG that we have here ang problema. Sa mga naka LPG nga taxi driver nga nakaila nako, nakaingon gyud nga mas maayo pa wala sila pa convert in terms of savings. wala man gud magpasabot nga barato ang LPG, same ra pud ang km/liter nga imong makuha with that fuel and with the current setup nga available dire. Lesser ang km/liter of LPG nga imong makuha and you still have to recover the cost of the kit.

    I suggest you check all filters (air, fuel, oil) sa imong makina ug ang engine oil, and change it kung due na. Clean the carburetor, clean the radiator, clean the spark plugs, clean all major electrical contacts or better add an aditional ground path. It will improve your engine performance. Clean everything what you have inside sa car, that way they will look good than before. Kung naay mga rust, stop them una using rust converters. A cleaner and conditioned car even with buak or gisi sa dashboard area is much better than buying another car that you still have to go the same process. Check tires kung maayo pa ang condition, pwede man na pa check nimo tanan sa gas station or nearest tire dealer. Bisan kupas na ang paint basta limpyo ug maayo ang performance, nindot gihapon na imong car.

    Visit DAJ auto repair shop sa Sudlon, Maguikay, Mandaue, they can help you improve your car bisan mangunsulta lang ka. Ingna lang gi refer ka nako didto kay kaila pud na sila nako.


    Quote Originally Posted by mcduaneski View Post
    diba better ang fuel efficiency sa EFI kaysa Carb?

    do you mean nga better to tweak and tune ang carb? Pila kaha ako magasto kung ayohon nako? things nga need to be worked on kay ang body (needs a new paint job) interior kay ang dashboard kay naay gisi, then of course engine tuning para dili kalas ug gasolina then lpg conversion para tipig gyud

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    Mao ni pics sa ako car, body, Interior and engine











    kani kay nakit-an lang ko ni sa net







    pila kaha ako angay nga budget para ma-ingon ani ako auto?
    or kung dili man gani ingon ani, unsa ako mabuhat aside sa washover para makuha-kuhaan gamay ang mga scratches? any idea unsa ako mabuhat para sa dashboard nga dili mu-involve ug dako kaayo nga gasto?

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    In my opinion boss, if you're willing to spend for the repair of your maxima, I suggest you sell it na lang and get a smaller car and tinker around with it.
    You'll get more mileage with small cars and I think mas taas ang excitement with smaller cars...
    Even the box types are great cars...
    Hehehe...looking into getting myself one..someday...someday lang....
    More exciting kay rear drive....

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    regarding mileage between EFI's and the carby engines it's a case to case basis lang jud tingali na for used cars...But for brand new cars I don't think carby-fed engines could outgain EFI's in the total aspect of "fuel efficiency".
    In terms of tweaking, you can do a lot of tweaking with carb engines for a comparatively lower price compared to tweaking their counterpart EFI's....you can still tweak the EFI's only mas costly lang sya and if masayop, you might end up replacing the entire engine...hehehe

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    actually, plano ta nako trade-in sa kia for a picanto or rio, nya ok baya unta ila appraisal, 120k daw. pero mahal sad kaayo nuon ang mga auto nila. imagine, 600+k para picanto! dili kaya uy.

    naa ba trade-in program ang Hyudai? ganahan unta ko ug getz.

    mintras nag tigom pa para palit auto, unsa inyo ma-suggest nga maka minus-minus sa mga scratches sa body? kaya ra ni ug rubbing compound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcduaneski View Post
    actually, plano ta nako trade-in sa kia for a picanto or rio, nya ok baya unta ila appraisal, 120k daw. pero mahal sad kaayo nuon ang mga auto nila. imagine, 600+k para picanto! dili kaya uy.

    naa ba trade-in program ang Hyudai? ganahan unta ko ug getz.
    getZ on a Crd-i engine, is cool...
    its nicer. if you'll have the accent. you could save
    gas much... imagine, the ratio 1:30+ on gas...
    thats i should say is awesome. but the accent, among the new vios and rio is
    the most expensve sedan amongs the 2...
    picanto, 600 plus? hmmm i wont go for that... the new vios should go for me

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    wahh...ingon ana diay sila kataas mo-appraise ug sakyanan....go for it bro....maayo na kaayo ng 120K oi...trade na lang ug picanto

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    Gamay ra man diay nang angay buhaton sa imong old car, kuwang lang na sa trapo ug tubig.
    For your engine bay, air filter ra ang mahal nga butang aron masondog to nimo ang usa ka nissan (taga Nissanbayan man to). The rest nimong paliton 2" PVC pipe (less than P200 sa Cebu Builders A.S. Fortuna) lang ug 2" nga PVC elbow (less than P50) or T with cap at adopter sa carburetor opening. Ang blue paint nga gigamit is VHT (silicone) nga Blue, naa pud Silver or White ana, naa pud Black ug P300 lang na sa Car Truck-SM. Para limpyo sa engine exterior and its parts, naay degreaser (kadtong naay 5minutes sa label) sa Metro Ayala-Hardware nga P160+ ra then hand spray nga tubig ug joy - solve na imong hugaw.

    Ang dashboard, micro fiber cloth (naa Metro Ayala-Hardware P65) ra with tubig ug sabon. Kung gusto ka mawagtang ang mga hugaw sa vinyl , naay magic eraser sa SM grocery, similar sa Mr. Clean Magic eraser pads pero P64 lang.

    Ang paint job ana kung pa wash over ka tibuok sakyanan aron wagtang tanan scratches ang medyo mahal, Less than P20K siguro na. Pero kung bumber lang, less than P2K ra na. Maayo gani puti ang pental, mas barato pa siguro magasto nimo sa pental.

    Di ra kaayo dako imong problema sa gasto, lingaw pa ka ug limpyo ma weekend.
    Regarding fuel efficiency improvement, naa tay mahimo ana. Let me know lang aron matabangan ka nako. Sure ko lupigan na nimo nga EFI in terms of fuel efficiency. Ang wala pa kabuhat ug improve sa fuel efficiency, di gyud na mutoo kay wala man na sila kasulay pa. Imagine, makusgan imong sakyanan, tipid pa sa fuel, wa gyud motoo nimo ana. hehe
    Ang effect pa gyud kung mahimo na nimo, lesser imong pollution, mas dugay pa gyud madaot ang imong makina. Pasagdi lang nang di motoo nya nimo, sure man gyud ko peldi na daan sila.

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    taas ang appraisal pero murag gi-tuyo ra na kay sobra man sad kamahal ang price sa auto. Imagine, pag-adto lang nako sa gateway igo ra ko ni-ingon nga ganahan ko mutrade in sa ako auto, nangotana siya nako kung unsa nga model, ako ingon 1987 nissan maxima, wala pa gani ni-tan-aw sa unit diretsu man ingon nga 120k ila estimated appraisal sa auto. maka tuo kaha ko ana?

    @vernie: try ko na imo gi-suggest nga mga product, try nako ako lang limpyo sa engine bay. regarding sa pintal, kaya ra ba to ug rubbing compound? if makita nimo, ang rear bumper nako kay na dislodge na, unsa ako mabuhat para ana?

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