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Old 10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
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@ chad_tukes: what is an atheist's basis of right and wrong? In a religion, they have been taught on what is right or wrong. But I find it interesting how would an atheist parent teach his offspring on what is right or wrong. Or, is it possible that an atheist doesn't necessarily object the teachings of the surrounding religion, selectively accepting some principles while rejecting most and not acknowledging a Divine Being?
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@ chad_tukes: what is an atheist's basis of right and wrong? In a religion, they have been taught on what is right or wrong. But I find it interesting how would an atheist parent teach his offspring on what is right or wrong. Or, is it possible that an atheist doesn't necessarily object the teachings of the surrounding religion, selectively accepting some principles while rejecting most and not acknowledging a Divine Being?
see: Altruism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read the "Genetics" part.
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:59 PM
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you don't need a religion to teach you what is right or wrong.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:04 PM
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good and bad may have come from religion, but it is not dependent on it.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:22 AM
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When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

-George Carlin
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:31 AM
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^^^

That is his only perspective and we all know it is HALFBAKED of what is MORALLY RIGHT . I pity him for being a NARROWMINDED person , otherwise ... if these are only for the PUBLICITY STINTS .... I am with him .
There is an old saying: 'For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the steed was lost. For want of a steed, the message was not delivered. For want of message, the war was lost.
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That is his only perspective and we all know it is HALFBAKED of what is MORALLY RIGHT . I pity him for being a NARROWMINDED person , otherwise ... if these are only for the PUBLICITY STINTS .... I am with him .
it was meant as a joke. George Carlin is a stand-up comedian. although i have to admit, that what he said is mostly true about religion, IMO.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:55 AM
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it was meant as a joke. George Carlin is a stand-up comedian. although i have to admit, that what he said is mostly true about religion, IMO.
In most cases , YES because of flaws specially sa CORRUPTION but then , specific lang to u bai Chad ... it is MOSTLY TRUE because it favors your mindsetting . Sakto ? Hehehe .
There is an old saying: 'For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the steed was lost. For want of a steed, the message was not delivered. For want of message, the war was lost.
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In most cases , YES because of flaws specially sa CORRUPTION but then , specific lang to u bai Chad ... it is MOSTLY TRUE because it favors your mindsetting . Sakto ? Hehehe .
well, that is partly sakto, i won't lie. but mostly because that's what i see in religion... and i'm not alone. a lot of people (such as George Carlin, although he meant that as a joke, but he's also an Atheist), view religion in this perspective.
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Actually bai ... I dont have respect to the CHURCH anymore but I do respect my RELIGION and ACKNOWLEDGE my God . Stuff like :

- Man made rules and commandments
- Corruption
- Money making schemes
- Etc

But despite all these , I try not to associate my beliefs practiced by the thousands sa negative side .
There is an old saying: 'For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the steed was lost. For want of a steed, the message was not delivered. For want of message, the war was lost.
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When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

-George Carlin
hell yeah!!! i love this guy! and i love his show, "You Are All Diseased" and all his other shows. mabuhay ka, george carlin! thanks for that post, sir chad.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:44 PM
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you don't need a religion to teach you what is right or wrong.
In the bible, Its GOD's word that will teach us what is right or wrong.
And that words will be placed in our hearts.

Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
Psalms 119:11

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:46 PM
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good and bad may have come from religion, but it is not dependent on it.
And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.

I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

Eclesiastes 3:16-17

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:49 PM
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Actually bai ... I dont have respect to the CHURCH anymore but I do respect my RELIGION and ACKNOWLEDGE my God . Stuff like :

- Man made rules and commandments
- Corruption
- Money making schemes
- Etc

But despite all these , I try not to associate my beliefs practiced by the thousands sa negative side .
GOOD point that Man made rules and commandments should not earn respect or should not be welcomed.

So do you believe that there are GOD made rules and commandments?

do you believe that the rules and commandments in the bible is man made?

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:11 AM
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Religion is just a label..whether you are a christian, muslim, hindu etc. But REAL RELIGION MEANS KNOWING YOUR REAL IDENTITY, ESSENCE, POSITION AND ROLE/FUNCTION IN LIFE.
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