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| Spirituality & Occult :: Discuss supernatural phenomena, meditation, aromatherapy, divination (i.e. tarot cards, pendulum, tea leaves) , metapsychics, feng shui, homeopathic (natural) healing, etc. "subjects/topics about what is beyond the physical world" |
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08-20-2008, 12:16 AM
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08-21-2008, 11:45 AM
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That’s my definition of reality (personal). But, I don’t believe that just because percepts are mental constructs does not mean they do not correspond to existence (impersonal) in some orderly way. Is not analogy an occult law – as above, so below; as below, so above? However, these percepts are limited (imperfect or approximations only) and limiting in nature (prevents the further piercing and the further extension of consciousness) at the same time. This is the nature of both material and soul/astral faculties (that is why psychic abilities are not perfect). As to the subconscious, I believe it remains subconscious to prevent the unprepared from going insane due to being overwhelmed by simultaneous and manifold impressions. The mind takes care of itself. It is not exactly the same case with the shadow or everything within that the person has not or has refused to face and deal with, although he or she had the opportunity before when it was first encountered. The shadow, being part of the person (only buried inside), can sometimes manifest itself inadvertently (kasi nga walang attention) in the person’s life, and in a way, calls attention to itself (given the time to be faced and positively integrated). Maybe, that’s why in Qaballah, the direct path between Yesod (ego) and Tipheret (~conscience) is called Honesty. However, to the one who prepares, what lies buried can be unearthed and mastered. Mas illusion tingali ang world that an immature soul lives in the astral realm. It is like a dream world, and I agree with an author who calls it the “Sea”. This ocean of dreams has the purpose of further educating the soul so it may be possible for it to continue its development though already disembodied. However, development there is so slooow compared to the development here. Thus, time here is of the essence. The more a mature soul becomes at one with its indwelling spirit, the more it becomes like it. Hence the “spiritualized soul” can become invisible to other souls. This is my take on the “gradual dissolution of souls,” so called. The mature soul attuned to its spirit, may like “see” with the “eyes” of its spirit, and sees differently. Instead of objects separated by space and time, it can see the unity of the whole, so to speak, which is what I meant by direct knowing. My take on this is maybe because spirits are like original creation – thoughts direct from God, which allows them to see everything as they truly are. The ether is like the realm of free spirits. My take also is that it is the realm of raw souls. It is so potent that some in the occult equate it with the Divinity.
I think yung seeing without hearing is not so bad compared to seeing and feeling within at the same time, hehe. Yung disturbing lang ay nagiging creepy na, kasi although it is seen at a certain distance, feeling it inside oneself is like having no space separating you, though it “should” have been otherwise. The person, who is an introvert and needs private time to get by with life, maybe at a disadvantage.
However, I believe there are instances when a person is “lead unto certain paths”. I think the reason for this is that these paths are probably what is best for that person, and like in your circumstance, your abilities are there for a reason.
The case is quite different with the awakened ones though, for they are quite connected.
I never said all desires are wrong per se. It’s the clinging kind that imprisons us, like the Shakyamuni said. But, I agree with you in the sense that emotions are simply that which are part of us. What is necessary, I don’t think can be called evil, including taking care of oneself. In the higher sense, there is no need to be fastidious about karma. However, it may be required that people be responsible. Freud conceived of the Ego (animalistic desires) and the Id (noble desires). Para nako, the source of this Freudian “ego” is materialism (soul’s attachment to body), while the Id is the conscience (voice through the spirit). I think the idea of selfishness may be reframed according to what you suggested: just because something is a desire of the higher self (say, enlightenment), does not necessarily mean the lower self cannot desire the same. The lower self may see in enlightenment many things to benefit itself, including, but not limited to: prestige, powers, lording it over others, and so on. What results is a mixed motive. The lower self, just because it is lower, does not mean it’s not possessed of intelligence. However, para nako, there is no lower self (but lower desires), there is only the soul (that can be mislead, but remains responsible for its thoughts, feelings, and actions) and the indwelling spirit whom the soul becomes one with in getting closer to God.
All creation are thoughts, and in that mind that beholds creation, each one is necessarily separate, hence from the point of view of these thoughts, they are separate from each other as well, although it is only seemingly so. But, I think not all thoughts of God instantly become part of creation. I believe he is entitled to his private thoughts. Only such that he wills into creation become part of creation and have life seemingly separate from the rest. Anyways sis, there in only one actuality and we may well see it from our individual perspectives, kaya respect pa rin ang rule. Om shanti. |
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08-21-2008, 05:20 PM
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para nako dili man cya ticket for salvation,, ky tan.awun nato ang religion, it mean it binds people,, it a advance synonym sa gang. organisation..maguwang gamay |
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08-23-2008, 10:07 AM
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08-23-2008, 11:31 AM
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@geoseph
Namaste! Re: maya and illusion I agree but... I was refferring to CONSCIOUSLY creating your reality not how perceptions affect one's one reality either it is mental construct of the subconscious and subconscious it doesn't affect the capacity for us to be conscious of what we are creating that was my point...i hope you get it...hehehe (sending pink energy) Re: intuition people kase cannot identify psychic signals as they come to them kutob is acually empathy just like gut feel...it's empathy (through the solar plexus) so lahat na iyon...plus the voice inside the head (clairaudience), the images one suddenly sees(clairvoyance) are regarded by people as intuition but intuition is different...u dont know where it comes kase...it's just it...U know. pure intuition does not evoke feeling, sound or image in actuality, it comes through the crown chakra the chakra which is in union with God. In practice, psychic senses work in combination with other senses regarding the brow chakra, in my experience, it is really another chakra apart from the forehead chakra kase when i heal people with headaches, iba ang nakakapa kong forehead sa ajna or brow chakra...kaso dahil sobrang magkalapit sila...when you see it clairvoyantly it's like just one chakra lang dahil ang liit ng brow chakra sa forehead Re: "uncertain paths" I agree, I call it "Dark Night of the Soul" where you don't really know where you're heading just the discernment...the fire in your heart that you have to tread such a path and the faith to your Divinty Re: power I understand, you're quite uneasy with the concept of having "power" I, too, had the same sentiment when I was an active church server it has been programmed by society, by church, by schools... that power is bad just as sex, money, joy...and we mostly identify ourselves to that by doing so But after such a journey, I beg to differ I believe , however, that everybody is innately powerful And we are just rediscovering these powers in us...the God-like aspect of our divinity The term "power" is not the word that is used to affiliate with negative connotations like oppression, pride, haughtiness, etc etc I've discovered actually in my journey that once one rediscovers one's own power you couldn't even lift a finger to anybody who might be against you ego-ically coz it's like hurting yourself more... Re: desires I agree, mixed talaga ang motives ng tao.. that's what makes us human..the lower self make us rooted to the earth however, it is not bad nor evil in having such desires Like power, desires are neutral to me We are given flesh...and together with it are desires of the flesh Just like the way of the kundalini flows...it starts from the basic chakra... the root of all primal survival...and goes to the sex chakra, the seat of lower desires & creativity before it reaches the crown that energy flow in itself tells us not to ignore basic desires kase in doing so...we juct end up with a blocked, congested or depleted chakra... Re: concept of God I agree that there are things our minute minds could not even comprehend about God Sa akin, God is in everything The "devil" is in the details...ehehehe Pax vous! |
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08-23-2008, 02:50 PM
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ecclectic ka mam.sir? mag lisod ko ug guess sa imong affiliation. cge ko ug observe wa pa jud nako makuha. mao ng mangutana nalang ko. 
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08-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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@bro Malic
I previously posted a long rambling on my spiritual path... but I modified it to simply state the 5 affiliations I choose closest to my practice. or that has a major influence in my beliefs and discernment: 1. Roman Catholicsm 2. World Pranic Healing Foundation 3. Mystic & spiritual traditions like Kabbalah & Buddhism 4. the Celtic Tradition of the Moon 5. and Quantum Physics Namaste! |
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08-25-2008, 01:04 PM
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08-25-2008, 04:33 PM
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I think Existanz and I hold a more general definition of a priori (per dictionary), while the definition you hold seems to be more specific (per Kant). I’m personally okay with either one, as long as which one is made clear in a discussion. I do not doubt that the human mind orders things in a certain way. If it does not do so, we would be unintelligent beings. |
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08-25-2008, 05:25 PM
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although traditions and covens abound..it is specific for a certain geographical location WICCA IS a way of life just like Bud |
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