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Old 01-09-2007, 03:46 AM
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so unsa may purpose nila? wla lang... mo worship jud na sa dark side og mo daut sa good side...
satanism man gud is such a broad word, some satanist do actually worship satan as a God. some prefrom black masses, and do generally anti christian stuff. pero ang title man kay Church of Satan, which is an actual religion that is recognized sa states, so mao ni ako pasabot na satanism diri. naa ni sila kaugalingon nga philosophy, wala silay God kay they believe that God is only a human concept and one can be his own personal god.

below is the 9 satanic statements, kamo na lay judge kung mu tuo ba mo ani, ako personally do not subscribe to these views..

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:49 AM
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wa sad pa ko kita ug stigmata... mura hadlok ug sakit na kay magdugodugo gud. i'd probably freak out.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:35 AM
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The people knowledge about God came from the bible.
That's why it was written for us to have connection with him.
If we measure everything by the words of God written in the bible then we can be sure that
we are on right track in serving God and abide in Truth.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

i beg to differ. the people's knowledge about God didnt came from the bible, because if you say so, then Moses then dont have any knowledge of God because the Bible didnt exists their time so its quite wrong to generalize that the peoples knowledge about God came from the Bible, It is also wrong to generalize so because it would leave the people of the other faiths alienated, Muslims, Hindus,, Buddhist, Taoists, and many others who doesnt hold the bible as their guide to Truth,

And such a statement is also in the assumption that the bIble itself is perfect without flawed and the source of this assumption could be well said taken from the bible itself. Its as if im writing a book, a then saying this is all true and perfect, and the reader appaled by the book would take it as something perfect and unflawed. So it is necessary to scrutinize the bible through reason and not merely by Faith. The truth in religion lies in its inner consistency, without it, it becomes absurd. We couldnt based everything through Faith, because in the first place, and in context with the bible, we have to practice reason in the interpretation of the sacred scriptures. It is really absurd to simply say that we are on the right track because we read the bible or so, the Irish Republican Army are predominantly if not all Catholics, in my opinion they are the best paramilitary group when it comes to bombs and to technicalities, the Islamic EXTREMISTS always pointing out that they have their inspiration from the Quran, the point of the matter is that, if we are to engage in a dialogue concerning the Religion and Faith, we have to use reason and not faith alone, it is not bad to based our religion in faith alone, but if it is so, one should remain in silence, because he/she is secure of his faith, and faith alone is something that is not a good place in dialogue.

In Faith there is no certainty, such is why it is in the first place called Faith.
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:12 PM
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Stigmata are bodily marks, sores, or sensations of pain in locations corresponding to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus.
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i beg to differ. the people's knowledge about God didnt came from the bible, because if you say so, then Moses then dont have any knowledge of God because the Bible didnt exists their time so its quite wrong to generalize that the peoples knowledge about God came from the Bible,
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Correct. Kapoy na kaayo ug paminaw anang mga tawo nga mo-insister gyud nga ang naa ra sa bibliya maoy sakto. Ang bible baya nasuwat about 600 years pa after ni settle ang mga jews sa palestine. before ana, up to the time of abraham, oral tradition ra gyud. meaning, word of mouth. kapila kaha makuhai ug mapun-an ang mga istorya hangtud nga nasulat sa mga libro sa bibliya?

Ug tungod kay greeks (philistines, from phillip the great) pa ang namunuan sa palestine adtong una, natural nga greek ang unang translation. dayon nga gisundan sa latin vulgate or street latin (para masabtan sa kadaghanan. so, sayop ang nag-ingon nga gi-latin ang bibliya sa catholic church para sila ray makasabot) dihang mga romans na ang misakop sa palestine.

kung wa mo katuhog sa akong drift, ever saw the movie, "lost in translation"?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:43 PM
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yah mao daw na..ang mga wounds nga na take ni Jesus pag cruxifiction..but ingon ang ka2 sa NAT GEO nga pwede ra daw na ma buhat sa tao..like mg concentrate daw ka nya focus nmo f asa nmo like gusto ang wound mo gawas..its just like placebo efect nga mg too ka kng unsa imo gusto.

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9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
- yes coz without the dark side there'd be no reason for people to take refuge from, people need not worship god anymore... for what?
- without satan what could be the priest's profession now? while people around them are left unoticed these priests enjoys all the fame and the attention and the respect.... why?
- without satan there'd be no church.------> no job for priests.


as for the Church of Satan---->>> wake up losers!!!
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:51 AM
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Unsa man sa'y naa kun kutob ra sa mga apostoles ma-trace ang Catholic Church? Naa gani ubang relihiyon diha nga kutob ra sa 1914 when they were incorporated unya mo-claim nga kang Cristo sila.
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- without satan there'd be no church.------> no job for priests.

I think it's not fair, church is the House of God (1 Timothy 3:15) But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Even satan didn't enter to earth the Church will be stablished to gather People who love and worship God.

Peace!

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i beg to differ. the people's knowledge about God didnt came from the bible, because if you say so, then Moses then dont have any knowledge of God because the Bible didnt exists their time so its quite wrong to generalize that the peoples knowledge about God came from the Bible, It is also wrong to generalize so because it would leave the people of the other faiths alienated, Muslims, Hindus,, Buddhist, Taoists, and many others who doesnt hold the bible as their guide to Truth,

I didn't say that "all people", Moses wrote the first five books (Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy) then the kings, prophets and apostles continue writting through the help of the Spirit of Christ. The word or message of God will be sent and deliver by angels and will be written by the dectate of the Spirit of Chirst. It was written for us to have fellowship with them and have a physical basis.

Believing and following God must have Hope, Faith, and Love. If you have these three then you will see salvation and will see God.


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Old 01-12-2007, 07:53 PM
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Some believe that 3 kings visited after Christ was born.
But in the Bible they were wisemen.
And they don't have names.

Peace!
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:23 PM
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wise men not three kings, naa ba'y mga hari nga molakaw nga sila ra, imposible gyud kaayo, naa gyud na sila pirmi body guards, alalay ug uban pa.

di ba?
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:56 PM
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Melchor, Caspar & Balthasar.

Matthew spoke of wisemen, not kings. they were astrologers, or magi/mages. astrologers served the courts of ancient kings. astrology was reli big @ dat time, most of them even relied on it for their self preservation. its was even said that they were priests of Zarathustra/Zoroaster, magi, being a priestly caste in ancient persia.

i agree wd rlcrl. the wiseman story seems probable than the 'kings'. it was much safer in those days to be a simple traveler, or even an astrologer, than to admit to being a king, least they be held hostage/ransommed for traveling without protection. if they were indeed royalty, certainly they wldnt have broadcast their true status, especially as the reputation of their prospective host was a most unsavory one.
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Even satan didn't enter to earth the Church will be stablished to gather People who love and worship God.

before i'll answer your comment... pls simplify this statement or expound... i couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.
thanks.
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Jawbreaker quote and wrote:
Even satan didn't enter to earth the Church will be stablished to gather People who love and worship God.

before i'll answer your comment... pls simplify this statement or expound... i couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.
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Satan was welcomed or entered in this world because of 1 man and that was Adam.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Man was created to worship and serve God, Church is a place where the followers and children of God gather.

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