You can be a moral person without God...

[buttmen]

Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

[chad_tukes]

GOD is like a heavenly surveillance camera who watches over people who do good things. GOD is like a police who punishes you when you are bad. question is, do we REALLY NEED policing --- in order to stop us from behaving in a selfish and criminal manner? hmmmmmm...

[miyay]

it's the conditioning. then when we become skeptic of what we were taught, we still continue coz we want to play it safe. just in case heaven and hell do exist

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Quote: Originally Posted by buttmen Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

i think God puzzles ur mind my friend

[Anydowro]

God's greatest dream is that you can already live without Him.

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Quote: question is, do we REALLY NEED policing --- in order to stop us from behaving in a selfish and criminal manner? hmmmmmm...

what ur tryin to say na gusto nimo magpalabi ka og maayo bisag sayop imo gibuhat kuyawa gud nimo chad kung mao na deli nalang kom mo gawas dihas california nara ko balay permi daghan rabang boang diha tingaleg sayon-sayonon lag patay ang tao.... ngeee ka koyaw ni chad..

[chad_tukes]

Quote: Originally Posted by 0+1-1+1-0-1+1 what ur tryin to say na gusto nimo magpalabi ka og maayo bisag sayop imo gibuhat kuyawa gud nimo chad kung mao na deli nalang kom mo gawas dihas california nara ko balay permi daghan rabang boang diha tingaleg sayon-sayonon lag patay ang tao.... ngeee ka koyaw ni chad..

you didn't get my point. i'm not talking about POLICING as in literally nga pulis. i was talking about POLICING from GOD. again, do we really need policing from GOD for us to do good deeds? isn't it more moral to do good things because you know it is GOOD? and not because you are afraid that GOD might punish you?

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Quote: do we really need policing from GOD for us to do good deeds?

NO bitaw chad kay ikaw may gadala nimo...

you have brain to think and eyes to see...

ang that Good deeds you have , it Glorifies him...

[babychique]

we are made out of love by God..
he created us, thus we need Him..
nothing is impossible with God..

[masterjanuarius]

Quote: Originally Posted by buttmen Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

Yes, Man/Woman is a moral person .. and yet there should be an Ultimate, Abrolute Norm of Morality whereby man's or woman's actions are inspired, guided and weighted ... call that Ultimate, Absolute Norm of Morality whatever you want, we call Him, God.

[kebotDiNaMute]

Quote: Originally Posted by buttmen Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

Obstacles:
So how do you define morals?

Is your morals acceptable?

Is your morals beneficial in the totality of it as a society?

Religion is a business of saving lives... even if raped, christianity will not allow abortion.

Why need God?
--- coz its a very basic way of expressing your thankfulness. Because, we really need him. We are spinning at a celestial speed in the universe... if no ones in charge.. then we are big trouble.

why go to church?
--- songs are nice and inspirational. Gives you a good feeling. Makes you do good thing than bad. Gave you the opportunity to pray.

Why pray?
--- its just saying why think? Of course we pray in times of great trials and thankfulness. Its like asking a time out? So drinking is an option? lets see who got the better result...

[kebotDiNaMute]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes you didn't get my point. i'm not talking about POLICING as in literally nga pulis. i was talking about POLICING from GOD. again, do we really need policing from GOD for us to do good deeds? isn't it more moral to do good things because you know it is GOOD? and not because you are afraid that GOD might punish you?

Its better to know that there is a punishment of doing bad things than nothing at all... a simple lie doesn't have implication to the laws of the land... who will punish them? does it mean i can lie to you anytime i want? imagine a family of liars... hahaha!

[kebotDiNaMute]

Quote: Originally Posted by miyay it's the conditioning. then when we become skeptic of what we were taught, we still continue coz we want to play it safe. just in case heaven and hell do exist

even if they exist or not... half believing doesnt save you... forget the crap... its either you have faith or not... in the end, thats the minimum requirements...

[akimz]

Then why need a god?
IMO I dont think so, we are given all we need to live in this world, I think we should be thankful and appreciate his creation, IMO we must do our best to know and experience ourselves to figure out what we really want to do in our lives

Why go to church?
since I was a kid, I think its kind a boring now, theres a lot of books or knowledge waiting to be read and learned.

Why pray?
I better meditate everyday . . .

[kebotDiNaMute]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes GOD is like a heavenly surveillance camera who watches over people who do good things. GOD is like a police who punishes you when you are bad. question is, do we REALLY NEED policing --- in order to stop us from behaving in a selfish and criminal manner? hmmmmmm...

if all becomes selfish, who will feed the less fortunate?

have you become friend with greedy people? who keeps asking for your contribution... hmmm, i wonder if you can be happy with that...