You can be a moral person without God...

[SioDenz]

God dont need us, We need God...

[AmorsoloX]

the weak shall inherit the earth.. B*llsh*t, i wonder who made that line up... the weak will be slaves to the strong.. maybe mao na iya motive..

the law of the jungle applies.. the weak shall perish, only the strong shall live..

morality is subjective.. what may be moral to you is immoral to another..

religion is a hindrance in discovering our full potential... simply because biases are imposed on us..

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by AmorsoloX the weak shall inherit the earth.. B*llsh*t, i wonder who made that line up... the weak will be slaves to the strong.. maybe mao na iya motive.. the law of the jungle applies.. the weak shall perish, only the strong shall live.. morality is subjective.. what may be moral to you is immoral to another.. religion is a hindrance in discovering our full potential... simply because biases are imposed on us..

hehehe..

the weak shall inherit the earth.. it has truth in it.. just not what you expected it to be.. weak is taken in a different context..

in the end, the supposedly "weak" are actually smarter and stronger than the supposedly "strong" in this worldly terms..

[munzter666]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes hehehe.. the weak shall inherit the earth.. it has truth in it.. just not what you expected it to be.. weak is taken in a different context.. in the end, the supposedly "weak" are actually smarter and stronger than the supposedly "strong" in this worldly terms..

Einstein, GW Bush(yah right ), Hawking, Bill Gates...these guys have a slim chance of survival in the time of gladiators. they are lucky to be born on their timeframe.haha

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by munzter666 Einstein, GW Bush(yah right ), Hawking, Bill Gates...these guys have a slim chance of survival in the time of gladiators. they are lucky to be born on their timeframe.haha

hehe.. i'm not referring to weak and strong in physical strength..

those who appear strong are actually weak.. and those who appear weak are actually strong..
the truly strong have no desire to show their strength.. but the truly weak.. man, they're insecure they have to brag about trying to convince everyone that they're strong..

[munzter666]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes hehe.. i'm not referring to weak and strong in physical strength.. those who appear strong are actually weak.. and those who appear weak are actually strong.. the truly strong have no desire to show their strength.. but the truly weak.. man, they're insecure they have to brag about trying to convince everyone that they're strong..

yeps, that may be the great IRONY of life. we have the tall dark and handsome, with little popo. the strong and able but mentally slow and challenged. so on and so forth.

Quote: man, they're insecure they have to brag about trying to convince everyone that they're strong

maybe its part of their survival instinct, under the category CUNNING.
hey, some lifeforms pretend/play dead.haha

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by munzter666 yeps, that may be the great IRONY of life. we have the tall dark and handsome, with little popo. the strong and able but mentally slow and challenged. so on and so forth. maybe its part of their survival instinct, under the category CUNNING. hey, some lifeforms pretend/play dead.haha

hahaha.. yeah.. u got a point there.. that playing dead is really smart for some organisms i've come across..

i doubt einstein would be stupid enough to join a gladiator's battle royale though..

[skoilhp]

Quote: Originally Posted by buttmen Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

the purpose of our life here is to know God, and to know god is to become god, it is by way of experience that we will know God... having a religion or having a belief in God is a prerequisite of knowing God, we pray as a way of believing God... if our prayers are answered then we will believe that there is God... and if not, then try again until prayers are answered... and if still no results after trying very very hard, don't give up, that is not learning... maybe there is another way that is best for you... just like you want to become a lawyer after studying hard still you failed but when you take up nursing, you easily passed and enjoys a lot with your profession as you work, then you find your true happiness there

yes, we can be moral person without God... but we can never go to a level of knowing God unless you have the prerequisite of believing God

[skoilhp]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes you didn't get my point. i'm not talking about POLICING as in literally nga pulis. i was talking about POLICING from GOD. again, do we really need policing from GOD for us to do good deeds? isn't it more moral to do good things because you know it is GOOD? and not because you are afraid that GOD might punish you?

there is no punishment... just like in schools, there is a policy on tardiness and there is a consequence if you are late... so when you are late, you are just working on the consequence of your being late... we are just working on the consequences of our own actions but we are not punished

policies or laws are just there to guide us on our actions but not as punishments... God made laws not for the purpose of punishing man but to guide man on his actions to do good things and if man commits evil, he knows the consequences through the law

[AmorsoloX]

Quote: Originally Posted by munzter666 Einstein, GW Bush(yah right ), Hawking, Bill Gates...these guys have a slim chance of survival in the time of gladiators. they are lucky to be born on their timeframe.haha

physical strength is not the basis of strength alone..

these guys can easily hire big bad gladiators to kick your butt.. thats another form of strength

but these guys are far stronger than any of us.. if they arent strong, they wouldnt have such great accomplishments.. it takes great energy to rise above the masses.. it requires great inner strength to raise yourself from the levels of the common men

there is strength from willpower and personality.. these guys may not have the body of a warrior but they have the mind of one..

[miyay]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute even if they exist or not... half believing doesnt save you... forget the crap... its either you have faith or not... in the end, thats the minimum requirements...

never liked organizations (except work, ofcourse) which impose "requirements". IMO, it's better to get out of that "crap".

OT

[munzter666]

Quote: Originally Posted by AmorsoloX physical strength is not the basis of strength alone.. these guys can easily hire big bad gladiators to kick your butt.. thats another form of strength but these guys are far stronger than any of us.. if they arent strong, they wouldnt have such great accomplishments.. it takes great energy to rise above the masses.. it requires great inner strength to raise yourself from the levels of the common men there is strength from willpower and personality.. these guys may not have the body of a warrior but they have the mind of one..

your missing the point, given the situation...even strong and able men physically can outweigh such figures even if this strong and able men are mentally slow nor challenged.

it requires more wit and CUNNING to pull that one too, for puny/feeble man pull the strings and call the shots of something more powerful than him physically during that era...

like if you claim yourself as a god of some sort, maybe it would work back then...but your off to the looney bin if you did that in the 21st century.

[dmelsie]

we are god's experiment so thats why we need him,
we go to church to honor him, and praise him for his excellent experiments, and the excelent creations he made
we pray so that he will stop playing us

[AmorsoloX]

Quote: Originally Posted by munzter666 your missing the point, given the situation...even strong and able men physically can outweigh such figures even if this strong and able men are mentally slow nor challenged. it requires more wit and CUNNING to pull that one too, for puny/feeble man pull the strings and call the shots of something more powerful than him physically during that era... like if you claim yourself as a god of some sort, maybe it would work back then...but your off to the looney bin if you did that in the 21st century.

have you heard of jujitsu? or how bout judo? or observed pro wrestling.. if you practice these arts, you will know physical strength can be defeated by lesser strength.. how i know this? simple.. coz i studied martial arts.. in practical situations, nisukol ko tulisan before.. (that was scary), point is, with leverage, strength can be mulitplied if you know how to..

dili naman uso karon to claim your a god.. you can easily become a celebrityl.. mga tao moduol ghapon nimu.. hehehe

[chad_tukes]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute Its better to know that there is a punishment of doing bad things than nothing at all... a simple lie doesn't have implication to the laws of the land... who will punish them? does it mean i can lie to you anytime i want? imagine a family of liars... hahaha!

it's better to do good because you know it is good. you don't do good because there's some kind of heavenly eyes watching over you. so what if there wasn't? does that mean it's okay to do bad?