FREEMASONRY : Everything about it

[Sinyalan]

Salamat seven_segment.

IMO, they are not enemies of the church (as I have said before)... most of them are cornerstone to our democracy. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[seven_segment]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan Salamat seven_segment. IMO, they are not enemies of the church (as I have said before)... most of them are cornerstone to our democracy. Correct me if I'm wrong.

basta against sa Church...the masons are also the ones who pushed the separation of Church and State...that is why aoth analyze-on...mortal enemy would be the RC.
Luther might be a Mason...King James was a Mason...Calvin? Ellen White? maybe...

in freemasonry...there is no true religion...any religion is true...see the contradiction?

if youre an atheist...puede pud basta mubillib lang ka sa supreme being...

and oh those humanitarian and charitable deeds...

[tripwire]

Hi, I have little knowledge of this stuff but I'll just little.

A snippet first. Actually there is no enemy of the roman catholic church. Only those psuedo fundamentalists think that what roman catholic is just as bad as evil doers. I am a catholic but my association with the religious group has nothing to do with segregation or separation of groups. Tawo ra tang tanan...

Now, I'll get back to the topic.

Many non-Catholics, whether they be Masons or not, are honestly puzzled by the attitude of the Catholic Church toward Freemasonry. They comment about it along the following lines: “I have lived among Masons all my life... some of the finest men I have known have been Masons ... they conduct many charitable enterprises and are moral, law-abiding citizens ... what has the Catholic Church got against Masons?” The answer can be briefly stated, Catholics have nothing against individuals who are Masons, or against the good works carried on under Masonic auspices. But no Catholic can subscribe to Masonic religious teachings or practices, or take the Masonic oath ... much less promote by his dues and active cooperation, official Masonry’s hostility to the Catholic Church. It is not merely because it is a “secret society”, that Catholics cannot be Masons. It is because of the particular kind of secret society that Masonry happens to be.

... i'll continue this, got to go, gigutom na ko! hehehehe.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Bottomline is , to become one .... one has to believe in a SUPREME BEING . WHatever it is mapa God , Buddha , Shinto , Allah etc . That would defy the purpose of one being an ATHEIST . An atheist is an atheist .... doesnt deny the EXISTENCE of a SUPREME BEING but discounts and doesnt ackowledge the EXISTENCE of a SUPREME BEING .

When giving websites , we have to consider also who made this websites . As ive already said my part in a different thrad sa POLITICS and CURRENT EVENTS , use only OFFICIAL WEBSITES so that we will be on the same page when we discuss about FREEMASONRY and learn from it . How can one learn about when a site is given that was made as a form of campaign to step on and disrespect Freemasonry ?

@ SINYALAN ...

Murag nabali man bai . ILLUMINATI existed from the Craft . The people who happened to start it are already Crafstmen and most of its members are Masons .

[emailroy2002]

unsa ng mason?

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan Are you a member of the freemason? Because sure you know something. Who is a DeMolay here.. they can say something about religious rites if someone is accepted to the order.

I am a DeMolay!

[schtriga]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan Are you a member of the freemason? Because sure you know something. Who is a DeMolay here.. they can say something about religious rites if someone is accepted to the order.

I am DeMolay.... and we are free to practiced whatever religion we belong.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by emailroy2002 unsa ng mason?

Kanang tig-masa ug siminto ba...

Seriously brod, Mason as in short for Freemason.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH I am a DeMolay!

Question brod, what do you do inside the masonic lodge (my guess) is similar to Masonic Rites? The gavel, the positions, the members, the inductees, and so on are quite similar to the Masons. As far as I know (second-hand info lang ni) Jacques DeMolay was a Grandmaster of the Freemason... correct ba?

Quote: Originally Posted by schtriga I am DeMolay.... and we are free to practiced whatever religion we belong.

I agree with you brod. I have friend who is a catholic get accepted into the brotherhood. Purpose? Civic organizations, charitable drives for the church...

Tama tingali tung sulti ni tripwire nga it's not the individual but the practices sa ilang organization.

[schtriga]

i dont see it as enemy of the church but an organization with a different view/practices from the catholic church.

for ex...The church alleged that Freemasonry teaches naturalistic deistic religion which is in conflict with the church doctrine. meaning Freemasonry believes in one supreme being as against the church trinity (god the father, son and holy spirit).

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by schtriga i dont see it as enemy of the church but an organization with a different view/practices from the catholic church. for ex...The church alleged that Freemasonry teaches naturalistic deistic religion which is in conflict with the church doctrine. meaning Freemasonry believes in one supreme being as against the church trinity (god the father, son and holy spirit).

Correct, hence the organization not the person itself.

@ springfield, sakto ka brod... it's the other way around. thanks for the correction.

[Sinyalan]

If freemasons are enemies of the church, why there are so many symbols plastered everywhere that is related to the freemasons?

Like the compass and square symbol infront of Elgin Church in US.
Presbyterian Church of East Africa - square and compass.
Masonic and Kabbalistic Symbols In the Washington D.C.

Kana pung sign nga PX sa mga pari (no offense RC people) believed to be one of the symbols of the freemasons. Ang logo nila has a triangular formation which you will see it also in our Flag. Research lang mo ani... mao ni akong nabasahan... though I am skeptical but who knows it might be true.

.. and many more.

[seven_segment]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan If freemasons are enemies of the church, why there are so many symbols plastered everywhere that is related to the freemasons? Like the compass and square symbol infront of Elgin Church in US. Presbyterian Church of East Africa - square and compass. Masonic and Kabbalistic Symbols In the Washington D.C. Kana pung sign nga PX sa mga pari (no offense RC people) believed to be one of the symbols of the freemasons. Ang logo nila has a triangular formation which you will see it also in our Flag. Research lang mo ani... mao ni akong nabasahan... though I am skeptical but who knows it might be true. .. and many more.

try to look at the logo of Manalo's INC...

naa puy compass...and the inverted triangle...

Manalo was rumored to be one of...

[johnny22aa]

actually they are. that's the reason they're excommunicated because they already defy the church's teaching. but this does not mean they are now into "evil" stuff as what the church branded them. in fact, there are some bishops or "big time" clergy in the Vatican are Freemasons. Yes guys, most masons are filthy rich, influential & bigatin. But for me, mason is no different to a brotherhood, fraternity or org. Just like rotary, kiwanis, toastmaster that selects great people before youll belong to em. they may discuss or teach mystic or supernatural subjects, something out of this world that we believe made them powerful or rich. But at the end of the day, they're still humans. I read bill clinton was a demolay but he hesitated to join freemasonry later on sensing that he does not need any affinity to any group. Is it not the church made the masons their enemies because they already lost their affinity to the wealthy & famous way back to the middle ages?

[seven_segment]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnny22aa actually they are. that's the reason they're excommunicated because they already defy the church's teaching. but this does not mean they are now into "evil" stuff as what the church branded them. in fact, there are some bishops or "big time" clergy in the Vatican are Freemasons. Yes guys, most masons are filthy rich, influential & bigatin. But for me, mason is no different to a brotherhood, fraternity or org. Just like rotary, kiwanis, toastmaster that selects great people before youll belong to em. they may discuss or teach mystic or supernatural subjects, something out of this world that we believe made them powerful or rich. But at the end of the day, they're still humans. I read bill clinton was a demolay but he hesitated to join freemasonry later on sensing that he does not need any affinity to any group. Is it not the church made the masons their enemies because they already lost their affinity to the wealthy & famous way back to the middle ages?

Jacques Demolay was a freemason...

demolay is frat started by him...named from him...

maybe we'll think its a global fraternity...

but there is more from it...