FREEMASONRY : Everything about it

[GOSPELofROCH]

o nana nsad laing gi post topic ani lgi

hahays

tanan inyong pangutana naa rani dri nga topic
http://www.istorya.net/forums/index....c,83232.0.html

and for everyon's info:
*the Knights Templar is created by the Roman Catholic Church and the Roman Catholic erase them in History.
*There are priest na member sa Freemasonry.

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Catholic Faith Defender Alang sa mga membro sa Freemasonry inyo kining bantayan ug timan-an nga sa FRATERNITY kon Brotherhood wlay labaw,, patas tanan>>>>peru ang Freemasondy naa pay degre nga mag determine sa imong ranggo..

if dako nakag degree its doesnt mean na taas nakag position makuha or above nka sa other members you just been given some previledge, cuz it takes a lot of hard works and time to be on that degree, unfair sad kau sa uban if dawat lng silag limpyo.

[dbmike]

so unsa man jud? evil na ang freemasonry or dili?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

^^^

Dili siya EVIL .

A lot of people MISINTERPRETED their signs and symbols as EVIL or people who wants to " papel papel " wants to make a scene that they know . They dont know jack shyt for sure .

SIgns and symbols that carries CENTURIES OLD meanings and values only craftsmen know . Thats why they are what we call SOCIETY with SECRETS instead of a SECRET SCOEITY .

[seven_segment]

Quote: Originally Posted by dbmike so unsa man jud? evil na ang freemasonry or dili?

Here's a website http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/index.html that'll tell you more about the Freemasonary than you'll ever want to know, such as most Christian and Muslim leaders forbid Freemasonry... because it is a most deceptive secret society, as we shall see next:

-"Catholics":

Freemasons have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church by 8 Popes: In 1738 by Clement XII "In Eminenti", the first of 20 bulls against Freemasonry. Pius IX issued 6 bulls attacking Masonry. Leo XIII, in 1884, in "Humanum Genus", and endorsed the view that the Freemasons' "real supreme aim" is "to persecute Christianity with untamed hatred, and they will never rest until they see cast to the ground all religious institutions established by the Pope"... and the last one, John Paul II in 1983... you can not be a Catholic and a Mason!... if you want to be a Mason, you are automatically out of the Catholic Church, excommunicated!... these are the words issued by Cardinal Ratzinger, approved and ordered by John Paul II in Nov. 1983: "The Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. Catholics who enrol in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion. Local Ecclesiastical authorities do not have the faculty to pronounce a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which may include a diminution of the above-mentioned judgment".

- "Baptist" leaders,

have referred to it as "an ungodly brotherhood of satanic darkness"; "there is an inherent incompatibility between Masonry and the Christian faith"; "there is a great danger that the Christian Mason may find himself compromising his allegiance to Jesus" (The Baptist Union of Scotland, 1965).

-"Lutherans",

say "Masonry amounts to idolatry" (Missouri Synod, 1959).

-"Presbyterians":

"Masonry is a religious institution and as such is definitely anti-Christian (General Assembly, Rochester, 1942).

-"The Church of England":

"A number of very fundamental reasons to question the compatibility of Freemasonry with Christianity (General Synod, London, 1987... and several members of the committee were Masons!).

-"Russian Orthodox Church":

"Any Orthodox who joins Masonry losses all the right and privileges of his membership in the Church (Acker, "Strange Altars", pag.60).

-"Methodists":

"There is a great danger that the Christian who becomes a Freemason will find himself comprising his Christian beliefs. Methodists should not become Masons (General Assembly, London, 1985).

... However, most Masons are white Protestants, and some Catholics and Orthodox!...and some Jews

[Sinyalan]

That must be the reason why Dr. Jose Rizal executed because he was against the teachings of the spaniards (that includes, their church). In case anyone would like to know, he was a freemason.

... However, most Masons are white Protestants, and some Catholics and Orthodox!...and some Jews

they are all over the place brod. In every walks of life, government, church, military, civic organizations, etc... white, black, red, yellow, brown races...

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Catholic Faith Defender Ang Freemason nag tudlo kini sa Satanismo ug upan pang makidemonyong paagi sa seremonyas.. Wala lang naka balo ang mga low degre nga membro niini kay konbaga ila pa kining tahas nga diskobrehonon aron motaas imong degre as member of freemasonry.... Nag promote kining mga mason sa mga maayong gawi maonang sa mga gamay pag degre nga membro dili kini nila mahibal-an nga sa satanismo diay... Peru kon basahon gyud ninyo ang history sa mga freemasonry (Bisan unsa na RITE) still naa gyud ang ilang mga tudlo sa satanismo...

any proff/evidence?

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by seven_segment Here's a website http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/index.html that'll tell you more about the Freemasonary than you'll ever want to know, such as most Christian and Muslim leaders forbid Freemasonry... because it is a most deceptive secret society, as we shall see next: -"Catholics": Freemasons have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church by 8 Popes: In 1738 by Clement XII "In Eminenti", the first of 20 bulls against Freemasonry. Pius IX issued 6 bulls attacking Masonry. Leo XIII, in 1884, in "Humanum Genus", and endorsed the view that the Freemasons' "real supreme aim" is "to persecute Christianity with untamed hatred, and they will never rest until they see cast to the ground all religious institutions established by the Pope"... and the last one, John Paul II in 1983... you can not be a Catholic and a Mason!... if you want to be a Mason, you are automatically out of the Catholic Church, excommunicated!... these are the words issued by Cardinal Ratzinger, approved and ordered by John Paul II in Nov. 1983: "The Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. Catholics who enrol in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion. Local Ecclesiastical authorities do not have the faculty to pronounce a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which may include a diminution of the above-mentioned judgment". - "Baptist" leaders, have referred to it as "an ungodly brotherhood of satanic darkness"; "there is an inherent incompatibility between Masonry and the Christian faith"; "there is a great danger that the Christian Mason may find himself compromising his allegiance to Jesus" (The Baptist Union of Scotland, 1965). -"Lutherans", say "Masonry amounts to idolatry" (Missouri Synod, 1959). -"Presbyterians": "Masonry is a religious institution and as such is definitely anti-Christian (General Assembly, Rochester, 1942). -"The Church of England": "A number of very fundamental reasons to question the compatibility of Freemasonry with Christianity (General Synod, London, 1987... and several members of the committee were Masons!). -"Russian Orthodox Church": "Any Orthodox who joins Masonry losses all the right and privileges of his membership in the Church (Acker, "Strange Altars", pag.60). -"Methodists": "There is a great danger that the Christian who becomes a Freemason will find himself comprising his Christian beliefs. Methodists should not become Masons (General Assembly, London, 1985). ... However, most Masons are white Protestants, and some Catholics and Orthodox!...and some Jews

ive read this one last last year pa and all of this things are negative to freemasonry.
y dnt you be one and discover for yourselves if it is really evil/not than reading/hearing things na wlay evidence or proff that freemsonry worships evil things.
and by the way satanisn is accepted in Freemasonry bcuz only atheist are not allowed to be a Mason.[br]Posted on: January 28, 2008, 11:18:31 PM_________________________________________________

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan That must be the reason why Dr. Jose Rizal executed because he was against the teachings of the spaniards (that includes, their church). In case anyone would like to know, he was a freemason. ... However, most Masons are white Protestants, and some Catholics and Orthodox!...and some Jews they are all over the place brod. In every walks of life, government, church, military, civic organizations, etc... white, black, red, yellow, brown races...

all most all of our national heroes are masons
even priest are masons, but some priest makakita ug Mason ring nga gisul-ob dli na niya pa-takun communion ang person(dli ba unfair and very opposite sa catholic teachings hahahaha).

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH ive read this one last last year pa and all of this things are negative to freemasonry. y dnt you be one and discover for yourselves if it is really evil/not than reading/hearing things na wlay evidence or proff that freemsonry worships evil things. and by the way satanisn is accepted in Freemasonry bcuz only atheist are not allowed to be a Mason.

I have a freind who is an atheist, well he call himself as "apatheist" is currently a member of freemason. He seems to be fitting in quite well.
[br]_________________________________________________

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH all most all of our national heroes are masons even priest are masons, but some priest makakita ug Mason ring nga gisul-ob dli na niya pa-takun communion ang person(dli ba unfair and very opposite sa catholic teachings hahahaha).

this is true. One of the three priest {GomBurZa) was a member of the freemason. Since "they" couldn't find who is the mason, and they are in complete silence due to friendship... the 3 them was executed.

Desclaimer: I can't remember where I hid that article of the 3 priests... it was written and displayed in Spain Museum... once I find it... I'll post it here.

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan I have a freind who is an atheist, well he call himself as "apatheist" is currently a member of freemason. He seems to be fitting in quite well.

but he is baptized and belong in a religion.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH but he is baptized and belong in a religion.

Not sure what you meant here... but if you said baptized in a religious way, no he isn't. He is an "apatheist" before he became a Mason.

[GOSPELofROCH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan Not sure what you meant here... but if you said baptized in a religious way, no he isn't. He is an "apatheist" before he became a Mason.

ahh ok..hhmmm i dnt know why but maybe he pass in the requirements and investigation in freemasonry and someone vouches on him as a good person.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH ahh ok..hhmmm i dnt know why but maybe he pass in the requirements and investigation in freemasonry and someone vouches on him as a good person.

that I don't know because he is bound to secrecy... maybe he was... maybe not.

are masons really enemies of the church?

Interesting thread, but IMO... they are not. Instead, freemasons are great contributors to the church. Especially the Roman Catholic (Vatican) Church. The Illuminati Order (don't confuse this to Dan Brown's book) was the reason why freemason existed.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH ahh ok..hhmmm i dnt know why but maybe he pass in the requirements and investigation in freemasonry and someone vouches on him as a good person.

Are you a member of the freemason? Because sure you know something.

Who is a DeMolay here.. they can say something about religious rites if someone is accepted to the order.

[seven_segment]

Quote: Originally Posted by GOSPELofROCH ive read this one last last year pa and all of this things are negative to freemasonry. y dnt you be one and discover for yourselves if it is really evil/not than reading/hearing things na wlay evidence or proff that freemsonry worships evil things. and by the way satanisn is accepted in Freemasonry bcuz only atheist are not allowed to be a Mason.[br]Posted on: January 28, 2008, 11:18:31 PM_________________________________________________ all most all of our national heroes are masons even priest are masons, but some priest makakita ug Mason ring nga gisul-ob dli na niya pa-takun communion ang person(dli ba unfair and very opposite sa catholic teachings hahahaha).

no thanks...di lang ko mu-try...

dili man ako nagsulti ana bai...

just quoted it here...


yeah naay daghang priests...nga mason...

mga pinoy nga mason? daghan naa ta diri demolay...mactan lodge...

LIST OF FILIPINO FREEMASONS:

Philippines

* Dr. José Rizal, national hero, Acacia Lodge No. 9 Spain, Logia Solidaridad 53 Madrid 1890, Nilad Lodge No. 144, 1892
* Manuel L. Quezon, President of the Philippine Commonwealth (1935-1944), Sinukuan Lodge No. 272, 1908
* Jose Abad Santos, former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, one of the greatest heroes of World War II. He was made a Master Mason in 1919
* Numeriano R. Adriano, former Vice-President of the Republic, like many others gave his life (executed) during the Philippine Revolution
* Bishop Gregorio Aglipay, revolutionary Catholic priest, excommunicated for joining the libertarian movement
* Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo, first president of the Philippine Republic. Pilar Lodge No. 203, 1895. Founder of Magdalo Lodge No. 31
* Dr. Galicano C. Apacible, patriot and propagandist, Logia Revoluccion in Barcelona and Logia Solidaridad 53 in Madrid (mid 1880's)
* Conrado Benitez, civic leader, esteemed educator, economist, author. Grand Master of Masons of the Grand Lodge of the Philippines in 1936
* Nicanor Abelardo, musician/composer, "father of the sonata in the Philippines". Luzon Lodge No. 57
* Andres Bonifacio, founded the Katipunan, a secret society established to gain independence from Spain through force. Taliba Lodge No. 165, 1892
* Bassel Rifai, national hero, musician/composer, "finding asiroh" . Bagumbayan Lodge No. 4, 1920
* Manuel Camus, philantropist and civic leader, organizer of Boy Scouts and YMCA and charity organizations. Lodge Perla del Oriente 1034, 1908
* Marcelo H. del Pilar, soul of the Philippine Revolution. He co-founded Logia Revoluccion in Barcelona, Spain and revived Logia Solidaridad 53
* Isabelo de los Reyes, labor leader, historian and founder of the Philippine folklore, Luz de Oriente Lodge, 1896
* Teodoro M. Kalaw, prolific writer, scholar, orator and statesman, Nilad Lodge 1907, Gran Logia de Filipinas 1915
* Jose P. Laurel, President of the 2nd Philippine Republic, Supreme Court Justice, patriot. Batangas Lodge No. 383
* Graciano Lopez Jaena, gifted writer, orator, patriot. Logia Povernir No. 2, co-founded Logia Solidaridad 53 in Madrid
* Gen. Antonio Luna, writer, dedicated patriot, foremost military strategist. Logia Solidaridad 53, Madrid
* Apolinario Mabini, considered by many as the "Brains of the Philippine Revolution". Logia Balagtas 149, 1892
* Camilo Osias, foremost, educator, legislator, writer. Bagumbayan Lodge No. 4, 1918
* Rafael Palma, lawyer, statesman, educator. First Filipino president of the University of the Philippines. Bagong Buhay Lodge No. 291, 1908
* Quintin Paredes, first Filipino Prosecuting Attorney, Attorney General, Supreme Court Justice. Sinukuan Lodge No. 16, 1913
* Manuel Roxas, President of the Republic of the Philippines (1946-194. Makawiwili Lodge No. 55, 1920

ug daghan pa...rich, famous, waelth...tanan...

mao na mga mason astang swerteha jud nimo kung ma-apil ka...pirting swerteha...