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Old 06-23-2009, 11:21 PM
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LOL. So many verses. Information overload kaayo.

I want a direct answer. Is it because of religion or culture?

If religion, why dili mo kaon ug baboy? If hugaw ang baboy, hugaw man sad ang itik, kandig ug kabaw ug unsa pa nang pananap diha.

If culture, ngano dili mo kaon ug baboy?


Is it because of religion or culture?
Lisod jd masbtan bro f ang ininglis sa baboy , Dog. hehehe.
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if dili sila mukaon ug baboy bcoz of faith.belief or religion ila pud na.

that's the way they are oriented and believed in..no problem.

there's no shortage of porkmeat for pig-eaters then.

scientific data shows that pig can bring to human being the most disease other that highblood.

to eat or not to eat is not a question then..

its a choice.. respect it.
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mao jud ni ako makalagotan, ang topic bahin sa baboy

makahinumdum nuon ko sa kalami sa CNT Lechon


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That's blind faith! Because it is said in the "The Book" did you try to question it?

You did not answer my question. I need a good answer plain and simple not because it is said in "The Book" but why oh why? Have you tried questioning your faith?
ayay, faith naman imu gitira docdoc... for that... i want to share this story with you, basin kabalo nka ani, but para sa tanan nalang pod..

INTERESTING CONVERSATION

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and.....

Professor: You are a Christian, aren't you, son?

Student : Yes, sir.

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student : Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student : Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.
How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?

Student :Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student : No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student : From...God...

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student :Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the
world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student : No , sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says
your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student : No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold.
We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go
any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we
use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light , bright light, flashing light....But if you
have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it?
In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness
darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death a s
the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his h ead with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument is going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face
unfathomable.)

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & God is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.


.. to connect it to your topic, it's their Faith nganu wala sila mangaon ug baboy. Simple.

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Old 06-24-2009, 08:17 AM
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Lingaw kog basa da !


NYA SAMAN AY MO PAG BOOT
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mga ka tribu... basta muslim vs christian gani...

tsk tsk dli man bible ug koran gamiton ana... kay dli gyud mag kasinabot

christian dli mo too sa koran
muslim dli motoo sa bible

pusil ug sundang - mag kasinabot jud mo.....

mga ka tribu dli jud angay nga gita mag patay...mag minahalay kita sa usag usa..para hapsay atong pamoyo...

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mga ka tribu... Basta muslim vs christian gani...

Tsk tsk dli man bible ug koran gamiton ana... Kay dli gyud mag kasinabot

christian dli mo too sa koran
muslim dli motoo sa bible

pusil ug sundang - mag kasinabot jud mo.....

Mga ka tribu dli jud angay nga gita mag patay...mag minahalay kita sa usag usa..para hapsay atong pamoyo...



may pa kamuting kahoy inyong kan-on
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:50 PM
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may pa kamuting kahoy inyong kan-on
thats harsh.
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Ngano kasagaran man sa mga kristyano daghan man ug mga sakit dili man pareha sa mga Buddhists ug Taoists nga mga healthy?
akong kauban sa trabaho buddhist, so she doesn't eat meat, vegetables ra gyud siya. vegetarian kaau, mao perting pagka slim.
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ayay, faith naman imu gitira docdoc... for that... i want to share this story with you, basin kabalo nka ani, but para sa tanan nalang pod..

INTERESTING CONVERSATION

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and.....

Professor: You are a Christian, aren't you, son?

Student : Yes, sir.

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student : Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student : Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.
How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?

Student :Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student : No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student : From...God...

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student :Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the
world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student : No , sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says
your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student : No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold.
We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go
any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we
use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light , bright light, flashing light....But if you
have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it?
In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness
darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death a s
the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his h ead with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument is going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face
unfathomable.)

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & God is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.


.. to connect it to your topic, it's their Faith nganu wala sila mangaon ug baboy. Simple.

correct!

simplify and uncomplicate life..

if they dont want to eat pig because of their faith, let them be

and enjoy as much pigmeat as you want.

its a choice because of unseen faith..

so be it.

enjoy ur lechon and give respect to our muslim brother.
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LOL. So many verses. Information overload kaayo.

I want a direct answer. Is it because of religion or culture?

If religion, why dili mo kaon ug baboy? If hugaw ang baboy, hugaw man sad ang itik, kandig ug kabaw ug unsa pa nang pananap diha.

If culture, ngano dili mo kaon ug baboy?


Is it because of religion or culture?

RELIGION

Islam doesnt put an obligation without a meaning.

Every ruling in Islam has a reason.
There are many scientific reasons why you shouldnt eat pork which only validate islamic rulings.

Other animals you mentioned dont eat dead insects, worms, trees, bark, garbage and even dead pigs.

The pig itself is responsible for transferring 27 epidemic diseases to humans and some other animals carry other diseases, but pork is the main source of diseases as: The liar hydrophobia, Wile disease, Japanese fever, Malta fever, Scrofula, Meningitis, krip epidemics, The pig's flu & others.

Wala paman ni ma discover ni Prophet Muhammed kaning mga sakita mao ng wa ma explain ug todo sa Qur'an.
That is why eating pork is considered "haram" oki?
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NICE ONE!
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bro nakabasa nka sa tanan comments.. dili man ka grade one na knahanglan pa ipa-spoon feed! ka;

kataas sa amo g-storyahan tapos wala kay nasabtan bsan ug usa.. gamita ang utok bro!..

aron makasabot sa istorya..or ba kaha u know what is truth but nagpakabuta bungol lang ka..

Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? Mark 8:18

i dont know whats wrong w/ this docdoc, yes sir your right his playing stupid siguro or talagang utak baboy lang
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NICE ONE!

i seconded!
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wa pa jud d.i ni nahuman no? hehehe
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