Islam 101

[redline]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute Brad malic if that is the case I got several questions: 1. did jesus prove he was a prophet? 2. In our bible he claim to be the God-Son-of-Man. So is there anything written in koran about this claim. 3. In our bible malic, MATHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN wrote about Him wherein they are the apostles of Christ. They wrote the Gospel of Christ separately and the books consistent, so as to say they were credible witness to Christ. My question is: Who wrote about Christ in Koran? 4. Koran, It is maintained that in 633 CE, the written text was compiled, and in 653 CE it was standardized, distributed in the Islamic empire and produced in large numbers My question is: Who told them about Adam, Noah, Abraham... is there a reference to this? Peace brad, I just want to know how foundation was established until Christ.

I agree with brad kebs.. can u pls answer those queries..

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute Brad malic if that is the case I got several questions: 1. did jesus prove he was a prophet? 2. In our bible he claim to be the God-Son-of-Man. So is there anything written in koran about this claim. 3. In our bible malic, MATHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN wrote about Him wherein they are the apostles of Christ. They wrote the Gospel of Christ separately and the books consistent, so as to say they were credible witness to Christ. My question is: Who wrote about Christ in Koran? 4. Koran, It is maintained that in 633 CE, the written text was compiled, and in 653 CE it was standardized, distributed in the Islamic empire and produced in large numbers My question is: Who told them about Adam, Noah, Abraham... is there a reference to this? Peace brad, I just want to know how foundation was established until Christ.

1. Are the miracles he performed not enough proof of his office as a prophet?
2. what claim?
3. Study more, the Authors of the gospels are highly questionable.
4. Allah, Oral traditions, old Manuscripts.

[juldace2003]

is there any site that we can read the Koran in tagalog??

[hizuka007]

kani makita jud ni kung kinsa ang mali ron...hehehhhehhh

ang mapildi maoy mali.. nah hala ayaw jud mog papildi bordz!

[pigrah]

If I may sir Malic..share lang ko

According to Islam, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised up to heaven.
Like all Prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a muslim, as he preached for people to adopt the straight path and submission to God's will.
Islam rejects that Jesus was God or the Son of God, he was an ordinary human being who like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message.
Jesus in Islam is seen as a precursor to Mohammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold His coming.

[tatakalz]

the lord Jesus is a great teacher like the lord moses, and the lord Muhammad; all of them came from God to learn us the way of life.
may be talking about the lord- lord doesn't mean God it's English word equal the the word master or MR. for respect- Jesus is special issue because many christian believe in him same as God-the father- ; But Muslims who have the last message from God after 600 years from Jesus in their holy book state that the lord Jesus is just a man, and his life and death just test from God; and that's the reason Muslims believe in Jesus as prophet same like the prophet of Islam-Muhammad- and others prophets all same in respect as all of then were great teachers from God for us...The question is Who is He to you?

Have a good afternoon guys...

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by hizuka007 kani makita jud ni kung kinsa ang mali ron...hehehhhehhh ang mapildi maoy mali.. nah hala ayaw jud mog papildi bordz!

Actually there were already major debates on this subject. If this is new for you then you better think twice.

[redline]

@ bro malic:

so if Jesus didnt accept or recognize as a son of God in Islam religion. then who is the messiah for you?

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by redline @ bro malic: so if Jesus didnt accept or recognize as a son of God in Islam religion. then who is the messiah for you?

Red...Islam has a different structure.

We don't believe that men are born sinners. If by Messiah you mean Savior, sorry to tell you we don't need one.

[handsoff241]

Arguing which is correct, the contents of koran or the contents bible is like arguing if peanutbutter tastes better than mayonnaise.

Quote: Islam has a different structure.

Exactly, comparing it to Christianity is just absurd, you might as well debate with a drunk person (for both sides).

[redline]

@handsoff241:
just a curiosity lang bro. i want to know about jesus in the koran side.

if somebody ask a curios questions. dont answer like an immature. pls answer it in professional way.

coz im not made this thread as a debate. its about a curiosity and not a comparing with our belief.

mas humble and open minded pa man ninyo ang mga atheist ky sa inyo. remember religion is not the main requirement of salvation. its about ur attitude and ur behavior here on earth.

[handsoff241]

@redline... sorry you are taking me wrong, an answer was already given to your inquiry.. it's in page 1, i hope you read it.

that message, was for sno people who will take your honest inquiry for a chance to debate an idea i have described in my earlier post in this thread.

I have no intention of robbing you of your right for an honest answer, i believed it was already given, and I for my part, would have given it to you honestly if I knew.

again, that message are for the people who will take your sincere question into a ego-war. i'm sorry if you have taken it that way.

Quote: coz im not made this thread as a debate.

You said it yourself, gi-unhan lang tika, mao pud na nag dili nako gusto mahitabo sa imung thread.

[baliguat]

mao jud, sakto jud ka bro hands..

[SioDenz]

Quote: Originally Posted by handsoff241 Arguing which is correct, the contents of koran or the contents bible is like arguing if peanutbutter tastes better than mayonnaise. Exactly, comparing it to Christianity is just absurd, you might as well debate with a drunk person (for both sides).

But they have the same roots man cguro bro. Same man cla nagtuo ni Abraham. And na separate ang path sa ISlam ug Christians sa kang abraham man tingali...

[kebotDiNaMute]

Quote: Originally Posted by Malic 1. Are the miracles he performed not enough proof of his office as a prophet? 2. what claim? 3. Study more, the Authors of the gospels are highly questionable. 4. Allah, Oral traditions, old Manuscripts.

1. Are the miracles he performed not enough proof of his office as a prophet?
--- NOPE. "Even False prophets can do Miracles and WONDERS"

2. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son (Christ).
--- Reader's Digest said, Christ is the Founder of Christianism and that he was crucified. Does it mean we are talking the same Christ here? So, somebody must be wrong on this FACT.

3. Study more, the Authors of the gospels are highly questionable.
--- I dont think so brad, Questionable? 500 years later a new Version came out and its called KORAN.
So which do you think is more questionable the Legend or the first hand information. Don't say anything malic that discredit the author because we can talk more about inconsitencies if you want. Just answer the question. Actually malic think of this as your opportunity to inform, not to fight. I don't wanna.

4. Old manuscript? Hmmm, I hope its not the Bible you are talking. Because when you say old manuscript, it is written. At the Time of Moses it is highly unlikely that two God's gave instruction to Moses to write about Noah Abraham and Adam. Is it possible that you can recommend to us what manuscript is it? so we can examine through whats available. Actually it will add the credibility of the book.