Islam 101

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by tatakalz Why Muslims don't eat pork? WHY PORK IS BANNED IN ISLAM? This is just a brief survey dealing mainly with the reasons why Islam forbid pork; and the deep philosophy behind it, in a religious and somehow a scientific style. I hope it will be useful and interesting, especially in these days which witness the harsh and quick widespread of A(h1n1) virus. Question. What is the teaching of Islam about pork? Answer: Pork is absolutely unhealthy, its flesh is also strictly prohibited for consumption. Allah said in different places of the Holy Qu'ran. Q. - As a Christian, I have no trouble eating pork. I often wonder why my Muslim brothers do not have been allowed to taste the delicious food, as we Christians do. A. - This question is somewhat surprising because, according to the Scriptures, even Christians are not allowed to eat pork! Q. How can you say that? A. - Well look what the Bible says about pork, "You shall not eat of their flesh, and you do not touch their dead bodies; you look unclean." (Leviticus ir, 7-. The same command is echoed by Deuteronomy (XIV, . Reverend WK Lowther Clarke said in his "Concise Commentary of the Bible" ( "Concise Bible Commentary" fub. SPCK, 1952), commenting on these passages: "The laws were inculcated and obeyed because they embodied the divine will" (p. 871). Dr. EA Widmer cites in his article Pork, Man and Disease, "which follows:" The pig, although one of the most common foods, is one of the most damaging. God had forbidden to the Hebrews to eat pork, not just to assert its authority, but because it was not a healthy food for humans. " (quoted from the Bible) Q. - Well! these revelations are very interesting. Can you please give these issues more references to Christian scriptures? A. - Yes, you can see the commentary on the word "pig" in "The Westminster Dictionary of the Bible" and is very clear. Here is an excerpt "The pig was an unclean animal officially ... It is dirty, it does not refuse to eat offal and carrion, and consumption of meat in some hot countries is supposed to cause skin diseases. The Arabs did not practice his farm and was considered unclean by the Phoenicians, Ethiopians and Egyptians ... For Jews, the pork was abominable, the pig was the emblem of the dirt and rudeness. However, the pig was introduced in the idolatrous feasts of degenerate Jews (Isaiah 65, 4-66, 17). During the reign of Antiochus Epiphanius, a Jew in order to offer or taste of the pork was a method used to determine its fidelity to the religion of their fathers or to determine whether it was prepared to accept the worship introduced by its conquerors. But many Jews affected manners and Jean Greek Hyrcan found wise to publish an edict that no guard pig. "At the time of Christ, a large herd of pigs was in the Decapolis (Mark V ,11-1 3), a region colonized by the Greeks where the pork was highly esteemed as food. There is no reason to suppose that Jews owned the pigs or are those nouns that the prodigal son in a distant country (Luke 15, 15) "(p. 584-585). Similar presentations can be found in almost all Bible dictionaries -a survey from the internet -

nice work tatakalz...

[sanggano_boy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Malic That's the reason why Christianity was divided because of Paul. Clearly Jesus during the time when he was with his disciples never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. In Fact After Jesus death and before Paul came in the picture, the Christians dont eat pork. Paul was considered a heretic by the Jerusalem Chruch headed by James.

Quote: Originally Posted by Malic That's the reason why Christianity was divided because of Paul. Clearly Jesus during the time when he was with his disciples never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. In Fact After Jesus death and before Paul came in the picture, the Christians dont eat pork. Paul was considered a heretic by the Jerusalem Chruch headed by James.

Yes, you're right that Jesus never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. But he can give new commandments?

John 13:34
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

Mark 7:18
"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?

Salvation of soul is more important than eating pork!


Paul knew about this things. because the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned him to be the apostle for the gentiles

Acts 22:21
21"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' "


How can you say that Paul heretic?. The fact that Peter mentioned Paul's letter.
2 Peter 3:15-16

15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction


That's why the Jews persecuted the Christians because they can't accept their testimony. But the apostles knew what's the truth. They have witness the great revelation of God through Jesus Christ.

[redline]

Quote: Originally Posted by sanggano_boy yes, you're right that jesus never spoke about violating or changing any mosaic law. But he can give new commandments? John 13:34 a new command i give you: Love one another. As i have loved you, so you must love one another. Luke 22:20 in the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "this cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. Mark 7:18 "are you so dull?" he asked. "don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? Salvation of soul is more important than eating pork! Paul knew about this things. Because the lord jesus christ commissioned him to be the apostle for the gentiles acts 22:21 21"then the lord said to me, 'go; i will send you far away to the gentiles.' " how can you say that paul heretic?. The fact that peter mentioned paul's letter. 2 peter 3:15-16 15bear in mind that our lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother paul also wrote you with the wisdom that god gave him. 16he writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. his letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other scriptures, to their own destruction that's why the jews persecuted the christians because they can't accept their testimony. But the apostles knew what's the truth. They have witness the great revelation of god through jesus christ.

korek!!!!!

[cromagnon]

binalik nman na.

@sangano boy .

ayaw sige pang hilabot anang muslim kay mao mana ila tinuhoan - wala gani ka nauwaw anang

celebration sa sinulog.

wala gani ka gatan-aw sa imo self kung unsa ka makasasa or sinner .

daghan japon katolika nga killer ug palahubog.

[necrotic freak]

Quote: Originally Posted by cromagnon binalik nman na. @sangano boy . ayaw sige pang hilabot anang muslim kay mao mana ila tinuhoan - wala gani ka nauwaw anang celebration sa sinulog. wala gani ka gatan-aw sa imo self kung unsa ka makasasa or sinner . daghan japon katolika nga killer ug palahubog.

nauwaw diay ka bro sa pag celebrate sa sinulog? sadya man gani kaayo mo sa imong mga kaberks pa tattoo pa ug tribal.

[cromagnon]

sadja jud mao na ako usa mga pinaka lingaw na time nato. pero tourism naman na ron.

sauna panahon ba na , mga belief sa mga pinoy mag sayaw2 . shempre katawa man gani tag igorot .

pareha ragud na gud,.

[redline]

@necrotic freak: sak2 c bro cromagnon bro. mind ur own business nlng.. bisan pag tuwaron pa panato ang kalibotan mabalhin pa ta sa lain galaxy ky dli jd na mausab ila faith bro..

so peace nalng ta dri mga muslim, christian og atheist bros.

tagay sa ta para wagtang lalis. kung kinsa mo-somsom og baboy ky kaon kung dli ky dli. lol!

[necrotic freak]

Quote: Originally Posted by cromagnon sadja jud mao na ako usa mga pinaka lingaw na time nato. pero tourism naman na ron. sauna panahon ba na , mga belief sa mga pinoy mag sayaw2 . shempre katawa man gani tag igorot . pareha ragud na gud,.

ayaw kataw-i ang igorot bro. diha raba atong kagikan...

[necrotic freak]

Quote: Originally Posted by redline @necrotic freak: sak2 c bro cromagnon bro. mind ur own business nlng.. bisan pag tuwaron pa panato ang kalibotan mabalhin pa ta sa lain galaxy ky dli jd na mausab ila faith bro.. so peace nalng ta dri mga muslim, christian og atheist bros. tagay sa ta para wagtang lalis. kung kinsa mo-somsom og baboy ky kaon kung dli ky dli. lol!

bro ug tinuod pa nga mind your own business kay cromag magpakahilom nalang unta siya sa iyang pagka athiest.. ang iya nalang pagka belief on nothing iyang atimanon..

[redline]

Quote: Originally Posted by necrotic freak bro ug tinuod pa nga mind your own business kay cromag magpakahilom nalang unta siya sa iyang pagka athiest.. ang iya nalang pagka belief on nothing iyang atimanon..

ok bro il respect u as a christian..

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by sanggano_boy Yes, you're right that Jesus never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. But he can give new commandments? John 13:34 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. Mark 7:18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? Salvation of soul is more important than eating pork! Paul knew about this things. because the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned him to be the apostle for the gentiles Acts 22:21 21"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' " How can you say that Paul heretic?. The fact that Peter mentioned Paul's letter. 2 Peter 3:15-16 15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction That's why the Jews persecuted the Christians because they can't accept their testimony. But the apostles knew what's the truth. They have witness the great revelation of God through Jesus Christ.

AS what Crom says...binalik na kini...tan-awa lang akong tubag.

maybe he can give new commandments but the question is did he made a new commandment concerning demolishing the Mosaic law on pork meat? asa man?

Paul was persecuted because he was considered as a heretic sa mga pioneering fathers of the Jerusalem church.

[cromagnon]

Quote: ayaw kataw-i ang igorot bro. diha raba atong kagikan...

mao bitaw , dili sad nato kataw-an ang muslim , kay cla mao atong lolo sa lolo sa lolo .

ato lng cla palawayon sa lechon, humba, sisig, sinugbang baboy hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm....

u miss half ur life ug dili mo moka-on baboy.

giluod ang mga muslim ahhahahahahaa

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by cromagnon mao bitaw , dili sad nato kataw-an ang muslim , kay cla mao atong lolo sa lolo sa lolo . ato lng cla palawayon sa lechon, humba, sisig, sinugbang baboy hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm.... u miss half ur life ug dili mo moka-on baboy. giluod ang mga muslim ahhahahahahaa

wow what ingun ani na jud ka ka low crom? squatter kaayo ka ug batasan. hehehe

by the way dili mi lod-on ana...

[cromagnon]

ahhhh grabe sad nang squater oi .

ingon ra gani tag palawayon. low na dayon by flo rida.

i respect u guys. lahi rajud nang dili ka palahubog na tao.

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by cromagnon ahhhh grabe sad nang squater oi . ingon ra gani tag palawayon. low na dayon by flo rida. i respect u guys. lahi rajud nang dili ka palahubog na tao.

then dont act like one crom.