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Old 07-30-2009, 04:23 PM
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mao ingon ana ra diay na... ok tnx!! google ra diay ang tanan.. ngano i-dalo mn na inyo words sa inyo koran ba one way of spreading mn na sa inyo religion.

dont be offend bro ha nangutana ra mn gud ko bro ba ky I wonder why naay uban muslim nga hiwi ang padulngan nga ila term of fighting ky kung mopatay ka og enemy ky malangit ka. mao nga ako g-think dli cguro oi bcn na mislead ra na ang mga hiwi nga muslim or tingali nkasabot ba kaha na cla sa ila translation sa koran ky arabic raba. not all muslim ky educated raba basin gani christian naa sb daghan hiwi og uneducated sb. mao nga tingali kuwang lang jd emphasize sa koran translation. coz I believe wlay religion mo tudlo og sayop. coz pariho ra ta og vision is LOVE lang gihapon.

sak2 ba ko bro malic?
kapoy man gud ug balik balik sa topic. kung gusto jud ka motoon I would like to invite you to come at the Islamic Center where you will be provided w/ literatures about Islam, free lunch pod na.


no not at all. ngano ma offend man ko.

gikan sa baboy adto na pod ka sa gobat. bro tinood man na...but during sa time of war. kana bang osa ka nasod nya gubaton ang osa ka Islamic country, so anyone nga mopatay sa invader ma langit siya. but kung sa terrorsim kana diretso na sila sa impyerno.

pila ra man na sila sir oi kung imo e compare sa katibokan nga muslim population nga naa sa sakto nga dalan.
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kapoy man gud ug balik balik sa topic. kung gusto jud ka motoon I would like to invite you to come at the Islamic Center where you will be provided w/ literatures about Islam, free lunch pod na.


no not at all. ngano ma offend man ko.

gikan sa baboy adto na pod ka sa gobat. bro tinood man na...but during sa time of war. kana bang osa ka nasod nya gubaton ang osa ka Islamic country, so anyone nga mopatay sa invader ma langit siya. but kung sa terrorsim kana diretso na sila sa impyerno.

pila ra man na sila sir oi kung imo e compare sa katibokan nga muslim population nga naa sa sakto nga dalan.
relax bro.. ikaw bitaw cge sb bya ka pangutana sa amo bible nga mga verse dba? himo pa gani ka thread mao nga ngutana sb mi sa inyo koran. "remember the golden rule"


peace bro!! nakasabot naku..
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update lng ta gamay....

gimingaw ko ani nga thread dah..
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Why Muslims don't eat pork?

WHY PORK IS BANNED IN ISLAM?

This is just a brief survey dealing mainly with the reasons why Islam forbid pork; and the deep philosophy behind it, in a religious and somehow a scientific style. I hope it will be useful and interesting, especially in these days which witness the harsh and quick widespread of A(h1n1)
virus.

Question. What is the teaching of Islam about pork?
Answer: Pork is absolutely unhealthy, its flesh is also strictly prohibited for consumption. Allah said in different places of the Holy Qu'ran.

Q. - As a Christian, I have no trouble eating pork. I often wonder why my Muslim brothers do not have been allowed to taste the delicious food, as we Christians do.
A. - This question is somewhat surprising because, according to the Scriptures, even Christians are not allowed to eat pork!

Q. How can you say that?
A. - Well look what the Bible says about pork, "You shall not eat of their flesh, and you do not touch their dead bodies; you look unclean." (Leviticus ir, 7-. The same command is echoed by Deuteronomy (XIV, . Reverend WK Lowther Clarke said in his "Concise Commentary of the Bible" ( "Concise Bible Commentary" fub. SPCK, 1952), commenting on these passages: "The laws were inculcated and obeyed because they embodied the divine will" (p. 871). Dr. EA Widmer cites in his article Pork, Man and Disease, "which follows:" The pig, although one of the most common foods, is one of the most damaging. God had forbidden to the Hebrews to eat pork, not just to assert its authority, but because it was not a healthy food for humans. " (quoted from the Bible)

Q. - Well! these revelations are very interesting. Can you please give these issues more references to Christian scriptures?
A. - Yes, you can see the commentary on the word "pig" in "The Westminster Dictionary of the Bible" and is very clear. Here is an excerpt "The pig was an unclean animal officially ... It is dirty, it does not refuse to eat offal and carrion, and consumption of meat in some hot countries is supposed to cause skin diseases. The Arabs did not practice his farm and was considered unclean by the Phoenicians, Ethiopians and Egyptians ... For Jews, the pork was abominable, the pig was the emblem of the dirt and rudeness. However, the pig was introduced in the idolatrous feasts of degenerate Jews (Isaiah 65, 4-66, 17). During the reign of Antiochus Epiphanius, a Jew in order to offer or taste of the pork was a method used to determine its fidelity to the religion of their fathers or to determine whether it was prepared to accept the worship introduced by its conquerors. But many Jews affected manners and Jean Greek Hyrcan found wise to publish an edict that no guard pig. "At the time of Christ, a large herd of pigs was in the Decapolis (Mark V ,11-1 3), a region colonized by the Greeks where the pork was highly esteemed as food. There is no reason to suppose that Jews owned the pigs or are those nouns that the prodigal son in a distant country (Luke 15, 15) "(p. 584-585). Similar presentations can be found in almost all Bible dictionaries

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^ dong continuation nis usa nga thread?hehehe
nice work!
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hayz kaning belief jud, kinsa may ga imbento nao bah.
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^ask ni master kebot sir, hapsan ka ug mga ikis2x nga tubag...


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ahh mao diay na sa verse.

for me any bible sends the sam message man. is fo r the good will of mindkind in terms of healt and atttitudes.

but i dont think religon now adays can cope with the modernization.
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-ohh dia ra inyong gipangita..-


WHY THE PORK IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM?
In fact, not only the Koran prohibits the consumption of pork but the Bible also prohibited. In Leviticus, chapter 11, verse 7-8, ..... it says:

"You do not eat pork, ... You shall not eat of their flesh, and you do not touch their dead bodies: you look unclean."

Furthermore, did you know that pigs can not be slaughtered simply because he has no neck ?..... This is a physical characteristic natural pork, have no neck.

Muslims say that if God had wanted you to eat pork, he would have given a neck that can kill.

The consumption of pork is bad for health, whatever the product: pork chops, ham, bacon, etc..

Uric Acid is a substance harmful to the human body.

Well it is important to note that the body of the pig does not get rid of that 2% of uric acid, the remaining 98% forming the body.

This explains the high percentage of rheumatic found in those who consume pork.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
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dili lang ikis 2x , naa pay pina otcho otcho ug spagheting pababa ng pa baba
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no its not okay to eat dogs...
what is written in the koran pertains to pigs lang or dogs and cultured worms also?

i mean cultured worms are healthier than pork and contains more protein than beef...

im a christian... judaism forbids eating pork but christians nowadays eat pork kay gisugtan namn si peter kaon ug unclean meat... actually that verse pertains to salvation of the gentiles... hahahaha.. we just take it in a literal passion...
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WHY THE PORK IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM?
In fact, not only the Koran prohibits the consumption of pork but the Bible also prohibited. In Leviticus, chapter 11, verse 7-8, ..... it says:

"You do not eat pork, ... You shall not eat of their flesh, and you do not touch their dead bodies: you look unclean."

Furthermore, did you know that pigs can not be slaughtered simply because he has no neck ?..... This is a physical characteristic natural pork, have no neck.

Muslims say that if God had wanted you to eat pork, he would have given a neck that can kill.

The consumption of pork is bad for health, whatever the product: pork chops, ham, bacon, etc..

Uric Acid is a substance harmful to the human body.

Well it is important to note that the body of the pig does not get rid of that 2% of uric acid, the remaining 98% forming the body.

This explains the high percentage of rheumatic found in those who consume pork.
well ang bag-o karon kay kini namn

Acts 10:12-15 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air.
And there came a voice to him: "Rise, Peter; kill and eat."
But Peter said, "By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."
And the voice came to him again a second time, "What God has made clean, do not call common."

but i think this peratians more on the salvation of the none israelites.. but i do eat pork..

but then again we can find this on the NT

Romans 14:14-15 (New International Version)

14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[a] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died.
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ga balik balik lang ta ani ...mura tag mga tigulang na di na kadungog.
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what is written in the koran pertains to pigs lang or dogs and cultured worms also?

i mean cultured worms are healthier than pork and contains more protein than beef...

im a christian... judaism forbids eating pork but christians nowadays eat pork kay gisugtan namn si peter kaon ug unclean meat... actually that verse pertains to salvation of the gentiles... hahahaha.. we just take it in a literal passion...
...sakto ka sir and I hope Christians will not use that verses again.
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well ang bag-o karon kay kini namn

Acts 10:12-15 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air.
And there came a voice to him: "Rise, Peter; kill and eat."
But Peter said, "By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."
And the voice came to him again a second time, "What God has made clean, do not call common."

but i think this peratians more on the salvation of the none israelites.. but i do eat pork..

but then again we can find this on the NT

Romans 14:14-15 (New International Version)

14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[a] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died.
That's the reason why Christianity was divided because of Paul. Clearly Jesus during the time when he was with his disciples never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. In Fact After Jesus death and before Paul came in the picture, the Christians dont eat pork.

Paul was considered a heretic by the Jerusalem Chruch headed by James.
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