Islam 101

[schmuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by pigrah aww common! Nature designed males to become stimulated and ready for *** with any visual queue that a female was ready for fertilization. Do not blame Islam.

True. But that's not the point I was making now was it?

[tatakalz]

....I can't claim to know much about Islam..........

What Can We Do?

We have only dipped into this topic, and have already found material for endless debate. What can we do with this rising issue?

* For now, the best thing to do is to learn as much as we can about Islam. We must stay updated on what is going on in Islamic countries and we must hush our assumptions and listen for awhile.
* Understand and remember that there is fear on both sides. Your culture has become a force, a blind pillar of great evil to many other cultures in the world. Muslims also understand little about you. They fear you as much as you may fear them.
* Find the beauty in Islam. Instead of looking for its faults, look at it for inspiration for your own faith. How do Muslims find happiness? Looking for the positive aspects, you will have more than enough to love about this other culture.
* Talk about it with as many people as possible. Really listen to what other people are saying, and be respectful while still arguing your point. Communication is always the first step, and most of the time, we cannot even manage that. Let's start the discussion.

Peace everyon and God Speed......

[pigrah]

Quote: Originally Posted by undergroundcash naa ko lain pangutana, ngano man pwd man ang laki naay daghan asawa? Pwd pud ba mga asawa daghan ug bana?

Polygamy is one of the most questioned principles that Islam grants to men. Nevertheless, like every instruction in the Qur'an, polygamy has a reason. You see, Islam is a practical religion that ackknowledges the needs and temptations of the human beings and provides law to deal with them.

Polygamy might be the solution for a couple where the wife is barren, chronically ill and is unable to perform her marital duties, it may also be a solution when the couple doesnt want divorce, it is the religions answer to cases where some men have excessive sexual needs that cant be fullfilled by one wife. This is in no way means that men should abuse this right and use it whenever they fancy a woman. It is a chance to prevent men from committing adultery.

However, polygamy has some limits and conditions to be met. it instructs every man to be fair whit his wives at all levels, including treatment, money, house etc. The only level where the man may have an uneven stance is the level of feelings that he cannot control.

PolyandryIslam did not allow it because it will create a problem kinship. This means that the child may not know who actually his father is(it could be anyone of the four husbands). In addition to the psychological damage it may cause, this problem also implicates the issue of inheritance. Even birds and animals dont allow polyandry.

[pigrah]

Quote: Originally Posted by schmuck True. But that's not the point I was making now was it?

yeah like women around the world arent to blame if they get harrased...its not a surprise.

[pigrah]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes Islam women are very attractive jud diay? wrists and ankles lng, turn-on na?

mao cguro...hinan aw guro ug salida ky paspas mag imagination.

[tatakalz]

...I can't claim to know much about Islam..........let me share some of what ive learned:...

Islam Sects:

The Sunni

Sunni Muslims are by far the majority. Approximately 90% of all Muslims in the world are Sunni. These are the mainstream, traditional Muslims who believe in a strict determinism. The defining belief of Sunni Muslims (and the source of their ancient rift with the Shia) is that the acceptable successors to Mohammed by the subsequent leaders of Islam or "caliphate" could and should be chosen from anyone suitable that was a member of Mohamed’s tribe, but not necessarily an heir or relative of Mohamed.

The Shia

The Shiite’s central belief is that after the assassinations of the fourth Caliph in 661 CE, the next successor to Mohamed should have been Ali, his brother in law. They split with the Sunni over the issue of succession shortly thereafter. According to Shiite doctrine, their spiritual and political leader is the Imam, who is said to be a direct blood descendant of Ali. The Shia and Sunni differ on matters of Quranic doctrine and the Shia even have their own cannon of the Hadith (the description of Mohamed’s words and deeds). Another primary difference is the belief in a justice system by the Shia that is inherited from the Mu’tazilits or “rationalists”.


....there's more.....

The Sufi

Sufism officially developed in the 10th century CE as a type of mystical interpretation of Islam. The basic tenet was of Pantheism or a belief that God and the universe are one. Mainstream Muslims disagree with this idea and instead believe in God (Allah) as a separate being who created the universe.

There was a growing materialism that pervaded Islam around this time. Muslims had gained great power and acquired much wealth and land in a relatively short amount of time. As a result, many Muslims had grown rich and complacent and therefore somewhat laissez fare in their attitudes towards Islam. Sufism arose in part as a reaction to this newly developed way of life.

Sufi’s believe they may attain an inner, mystical knowledge of God through mediation, deprivation, fasting and prayer. In addition, the Sufi believe that the Quran could be interpreted in many ways which gave license to seek hidden, mystical meanings within its pages.

Today, Sufism is most prevalent in Pakistan, though Sufi’s are found all over the world. They are the rebels of Islam…the hippies or the “new agers” to use western terms. Much of what we have from Islam’s golden age of poetry and art was created by Sufi Muslims. The most well known example is Rumi, the Persian poet of the 11th century CE..

Wahhabism

Two hundred years after the rise of Sufism and four hundred years after Charles Martel stopped the Islamic Jihad into Europe at the Battle of Tours, Islam was suffering from another crisis of stagnation and devolution. In the 12th century CE, Muslims had begun to revert to idol and tomb worship and the austere monotheism of the previous centuries had seriously degraded. From this environment a peaceful revisionist movement known as Wahhabism took root.

The movement was named for Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, a charismatic individual from the area around modern day Riyadh who, by the age of 10, had memorized the Quran and was leading prayers. Sheikh al-Wahhab had written many books on the subject of reformation based on the Quran by the time Wahhabism had become a full blown movement.

So maybe it could be said that Wahhabism is somewhat akin to the Lutheran movement that took place in Christianity, whereby the reformers attempted to get the religion back to what it was originally meant to be. And by “originally”, of course I mean before the Catholic Church started putting ritual before doctrine.


...There are a variety of sub-sects within each sect and adherents to different philosophies within those sub-sects. Much of it, in fact the majority, has common tenets such as the Five Pillars of Islam (profession of faith, prayers, alms for the poor, the Hajj or pilgrimage to Mecca and the observance of Ramadan...
...n my opinion, Islam is at a period in its history that Christianity was in around the time just before the Renaissance. Time does not move at the same pace for all peoples of the world, as hard as that is to comprehend. Just as Christianity has (in many ways) progressed, so will Islam…

Masha'Allah!

[pigrah]

@ tatakalz

Ma sha Allah!!!! Mabruk! nindot mag cge ug read noh?! Keep on sharing.

Sir Malic wer na u?

[Malic]

@tatakalz

Nice work dude, bilib ko nimo...hehe. As you can see wala kaayo koy mga elaboration about some points in Islam because it is not the practice of Muslims to manipulate people into coming to the faith. It is encourage nga in public places like this specifically non-Muslim populated forums and places dapat we should only give a condensed version of Islam to avoid being accuse of using semantics as means of drawing people to Islam. Kung gusto ang mga tao nga mag study sa Islam then they are encourage to make a research of their own.

and thats what you are doing now. No compulsion in Religion!

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by pigrah @ tatakalz Ma sha Allah!!!! Mabruk! nindot mag cge ug read noh?! Keep on sharing. Sir Malic wer na u?

Salaam my soon to be sister, hehe. assuming ra kaayo?


Busy gamay ngita ug laing negosyo para kabuhi ug lain nga asawa hahahahahahahaha

[tatakalz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Malic Salaam my soon to be sister, hehe. assuming ra kaayo? Busy gamay ngita ug laing negosyo para kabuhi ug lain nga asawa hahahahahahahaha

wahahahahaha..katawa mn sad ko ani sir Malic....sayang kaau wala ta mgkita pg.anha nako sa center ninyo...c sis HopeForJANA ra aqng na meet.....uhm cge lng sunod kung dili kaau busy mo bisita ko dd2....

mao lagi sir, bacin mapasanginlan ko ug bias ra sa aqng pg.tan.aw sa usa ka religion, im just being fair.......

i really embraced the beauty of Islam......

Praise Be the Lord...!!

Good morning..

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by tatakalz wahahahahaha..katawa mn sad ko ani sir Malic....sayang kaau wala ta mgkita pg.anha nako sa center ninyo...c sis HopeForJANA ra aqng na meet.....uhm cge lng sunod kung dili kaau busy mo bisita ko dd2.... mao lagi sir, bacin mapasanginlan ko ug bias ra sa aqng pg.tan.aw sa usa ka religion, im just being fair....... i really embraced the beauty of Islam...... Praise Be the Lord...!! Good morning..

Masha'Allah!

lagi gi ingnan ko ni HopeForJANA, okay lang sir kay Insha'Allah magkita ra gihapon ta.

Saman pangitaan ka nako ug Asawa? hehe.

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by pigrah A muslim man can marry a Christian girl(or any other religion),one of the reasons would be to expand the belief of Islam. However, certain restricitions exist on such marriages, especially if they occur in non-Muslim lands where Islamic law and religion is not prevailing. reason also is to expand the belief of Islam. Muslim girls cannot marry a non muslim man to protect the woman of her rights and provide a moral safeguard and legal means. He may prevent her from carrying out her religious obligations by either pressuring her or physically abusing her. But it is not the sole reason for imposing the restriction. The situation is considered very damaging for the woman to practise Islam afterwards and even worse for the kids in such marriages.

Quote: Originally Posted by pigrah Polygamy is one of the most questioned principles that Islam grants to men. Nevertheless, like every instruction in the Qur'an, polygamy has a reason. You see, Islam is a practical religion that ackknowledges the needs and temptations of the human beings and provides law to deal with them. Polygamy might be the solution for a couple where the wife is barren, chronically ill and is unable to perform her marital duties, it may also be a solution when the couple doesnt want divorce, it is the religions answer to cases where some men have excessive sexual needs that cant be fullfilled by one wife. This is in no way means that men should abuse this right and use it whenever they fancy a woman. It is a chance to prevent men from committing adultery. However, polygamy has some limits and conditions to be met. it instructs every man to be fair whit his wives at all levels, including treatment, money, house etc. The only level where the man may have an uneven stance is the level of feelings that he cannot control. PolyandryIslam did not allow it because it will create a problem kinship. This means that the child may not know who actually his father is(it could be anyone of the four husbands). In addition to the psychological damage it may cause, this problem also implicates the issue of inheritance. Even birds and animals dont allow polyandry.

Masha'Allah...

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by schmuck question: What is the legal age of consent sa Islam? Pwede makasal, maka pirma og contrata etc.

If biological basis is to be considered, then, as soon as the girl hits puberty stage she can legally marry.

But Marriage goes beyond our biological urges. The best modern answer we can produce is, as long as the girl is mature enough to know what is right and wrong then she is capable to marry.


There also some important factors that needs consideration, like: Time, place, culture, psychological readiness. In the past warriors and kings are said to had an age ranging from 17-21 years old. Now young people that falls under this range mangita gihapon ug mama para mo pakaon nila. hehe.

Sa mga babaye it said that Middle Eastern women matures early. People who had the chance of living in Middle East can attest to the fact that these women have physical features like that of a mature woman.


Hope that answers your question sir.

[Malic]

Quote: Originally Posted by undergroundcash ngano man hantod karon contra man kaayo mga jews ug muslims hasta christians ug muslims?

Sir kung naa man gani ga contra kana wala nay labot ang Islam ana as a Religion.


wala man koy kontra nga Jews ug Christian. kung naa man gani dili pod siguro tungod sa Religion.

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by pigrah mao cguro...hinan aw guro ug salida ky paspas mag imagination.

kailangan speed of light jud atong imagination..

kay kung pentium I pa japon atong huna2x karon, mabiyaan ta sa panahon..