Theosophy/NAM Satanic in NATURE? lecture 101

[kebot]

Theosophy is a doctrine of religious philosophy and metaphysics originating with Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891)
Together with Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge, and others, Blavatsky founded the Theosophical Society.
Theosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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NEW AGE
Neo-Theosophist Alice Bailey published the book Discipleship in the New Age (1944), which used the term New Age in reference to the transition from the Astrological Age of Pisces to Aquarius


CONNECTION:
Her(Alice Ann Bailey) writings were influenced by the works of Madame Blavatsky. Though Bailey's writings differ from Theosophy, they also have much in common with it.
Alice Bailey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The present-day New Age movement is to a considerable extent based on the teachings of Blavatsky, though some writers have described Alice Bailey as the founder of the "New Age movement".
Theosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NOW WE GOT A CASE... AGREE?


ACCUSATIONS for NAM:
1. Alice Bailey & Master Djwhal Khul: A Satanic Communion
“Preparation too must be given to the developing of higher psychic powers...Hospitals and schools will appear under the direct guidance of the Masters; Teachers... will train the minds of the pupils to be responsive to direct inspiration from above. ”
Alice Bailey & Master DK Djwhal Khul: A Satanic Communion

ACCUSATIONS FOR THEOSOPHY
1. NEW JESUS?
The Master Jesus[1], within the metaphysical system of Theosophy, refers to the theosophical concept of Jesus as opposed to the Jesus Christ of the Christian religion.

According to Alice A. Bailey, the Master Jesus was previously incarnated as Joshua, the Hebrew military leader in the 13th century BC, and Joshua the High Priest in the sixth century BC.

Helena Blavatsky, a founder of the Theosophical Society, wrote in 1877: "Apollonius, a contemporary of Jesus of Nazareth, was, like him, an enthusiastic founder of a new spiritual school. Perhaps less metaphysical and more practical than Jesus, less tender and perfect in his nature, he nevertheless inculcated the same quintessence of spirituality, and the same high moral truths."[15] Some Theosophists such as C.W. Leadbeater and the teachers of Neo-Theosophy, Alice A. Bailey and Benjamin Creme, have written that the Master Jesus was also incarnated as Apollonius of Tyana after his incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth.
Master Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Comparison with Theosophy
Theosophists are divided on their assessment of Alice Bailey's writings. For instance, the noted contemporary Theosophical writer Geoffrey Hodson wrote a highly favorable review of one her books, saying, "Once more Alice Bailey has placed occult students in her debt."
Alice Bailey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CULT VS OCCULT
Cults - Some cults are offshoots of ancient pagan religions, have no similarity to Christianity, and are easy to identify.

Occult - The occult is particularly deceptive because the spirit world is very real. Practitioners are dealing with reality -- but dark, forbidden, and evil reality.

Its up to you readers to know, we are all entitled to know... my research is just a few hours to sum-up so forgive me if I mislead... its up to you to examine... I posted my sources... I stand corrected if Indeed I mislead.

I believe this posts is justified by similar posts that runs for a long time...
BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS?

[kebot]

This are just the my main accusation. I remember one time that REG is pushing THEOSOPHY and NAM. If anyone wants to dispute... state what you don't like in my posts then we can discuss... This is no mocking session for me...

Any dispute, will be taken seriously. Christians its now time to tell them they are no better than ours. Please do help(just don't push your idea to force them... present your evidence let them evaluate...). People have the right to know? Our objective is TRUTH, right?

IMO: "It is not fun to go to hell".

[regnauld]

All I can say is this manoy:


“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” - Jesus The Christ

In other words:

I don't waste my valuable wisdom or advice on idiots or fools.
As tossing lovely pearls in front of pigs, the offering will be disregarded and defile!

Im sorry if I call you an idiot or fool manoy!

[seven_segment]

I don't know where did you based it brod kebots...

pero on the Catholic Church...pertaning to the Occultism, horroscopes..etc...:


Question: Is it morally acceptable for Christians to involve
themselves in various forms of fortune telling and divination,
including superstition and reading horoscopes?

Answer: No. The Church teaches that all such activities are sinful. Of course, the
sinfulness varies depending on the type and intensity of the activity practiced, but all are
contrary to the faith. The Scriptures clearly condemn such activity. The Book of
Deuteronomy states: “Let there not be found among you anyone who immolates his son
or daughter in the fire, nor a fortune-teller, soothsayer, charmer, diviner or caster of
spells, nor one who consults ghosts and spirits or seeks oracles from the dead. Anyone
who does such things is an abomination to the Lord” (Dt.18:10-11).

The penalty for such activity was rather severe: "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their
death" (Lv.20:27).

St. Paul reaffirms this prohibition: “…the works of the flesh are
obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness…idolatry, sorcery…. I warn you, as I
warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God”
(Gal.5:19-21).

Finally, the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church repeats the prohibition
on all forms of divination and occult practices: “All forms of divination are to be
rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely
supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading,
interpretations of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to
mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other
human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor,
respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone” (Catechism, 2116).

Why is this so?: Following horoscope, etc. is putting our faith and the authority over our
lives in the hands of someone or something other than God. In general, people who are
content in their life and at peace in the sight of God do not tend to delve into the occult.
People looking for answers to difficult questions, for an end to some pain or suffering, or
who are hopelessly curious tend to turn to such activities. Even if they don’t intend it at
first, once they start to ascribe any power whatsoever to such activities, they begin to
question the power of God. They start to find hope in some power outside of God, and if
these sources can provide immediate answers to their questions, then why bother going to
God at all, since God’s way is so difficult and takes so much more effort to discern?
Fortune telling is seen as infinitely easier. As a result, their life begins to be governed, not
by prayer and following the Gospel, but by tarot cards and psychics. In the end, they
become involved in blatant idolatry, sometimes even worshipping false gods (such as in
Wicca), and always ascribing the sovereignty over their lives to another power, a
sovereignty which is supposed to be given to God alone.

http://www.sacredheartparish.org/fly...e%20Occult.pdf

but then if you're not a Catholic...the above one is not intended for you...

[bluedes]

brad,

obvious kaau imong agenda na personal.. tsk, tsk, tsk..

Quote: IMO: "It is not fun to go to hell".

with your own agenda, i think u have business class ticket going there already..

[kebot]

Yes, brad im no catholic. So the above you pointed out is subject for examination if it is indeed acceptable. One sided definition means another thing.. but thanks for posting... Im reading.

Reg I don't care if you are more Einstein or what.... "False prophet can do miracles"... To tell you... You are not justified by saying you are wiser than me, coz im no wiser than you... Just face the accusation and eyes on the board. I'm serious...

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by seven_segment I don't know where did you based it brod kebots... pero on the Catholic Church...pertaning to the Occultism, horroscopes..etc...: Question: Is it morally acceptable for Christians to involve themselves in various forms of fortune telling and divination, including superstition and reading horoscopes? Answer: No. The Church teaches that all such activities are sinful. Of course, the sinfulness varies depending on the type and intensity of the activity practiced, but all are contrary to the faith. The Scriptures clearly condemn such activity. The Book of Deuteronomy states: “Let there not be found among you anyone who immolates his son or daughter in the fire, nor a fortune-teller, soothsayer, charmer, diviner or caster of spells, nor one who consults ghosts and spirits or seeks oracles from the dead. Anyone who does such things is an abomination to the Lord” (Dt.18:10-11). The penalty for such activity was rather severe: "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death" (Lv.20:27). St. Paul reaffirms this prohibition: “…the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness…idolatry, sorcery…. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Gal.5:19-21). Finally, the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church repeats the prohibition on all forms of divination and occult practices: “All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretations of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone” (Catechism, 2116). Why is this so?: Following horoscope, etc. is putting our faith and the authority over our lives in the hands of someone or something other than God. In general, people who are content in their life and at peace in the sight of God do not tend to delve into the occult. People looking for answers to difficult questions, for an end to some pain or suffering, or who are hopelessly curious tend to turn to such activities. Even if they don’t intend it at first, once they start to ascribe any power whatsoever to such activities, they begin to question the power of God. They start to find hope in some power outside of God, and if these sources can provide immediate answers to their questions, then why bother going to God at all, since God’s way is so difficult and takes so much more effort to discern? Fortune telling is seen as infinitely easier. As a result, their life begins to be governed, not by prayer and following the Gospel, but by tarot cards and psychics. In the end, they become involved in blatant idolatry, sometimes even worshipping false gods (such as in Wicca), and always ascribing the sovereignty over their lives to another power, a sovereignty which is supposed to be given to God alone. but then if you're not a Catholic...the above one is not intended for you...

brad, read history, pre-15th century roman catholicism..
it is the work of pre-ordained astronomers and mathematicians commanded by the church to make up horoscope readings for the entire year. roman catholic church before even have emperor of the roman empire, and lahi pud ang position sa pope gani..

[kebot]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes brad, obvious kaau imong agenda na personal.. tsk, tsk, tsk.. with your own agenda, i think u have business class ticket going there already..

Well at least i declare my IMO(In MY Opinion). Did you... forget this crap brad if you want to defense just do it... dont talk non-sense... were done right? if not open a thread then lets share the shame...

[regnauld]

Its no use talking to a RELIGIOUS FANATIC who has sealed his poor mind since the time of FUNDAMENTALISM or BORN AGAINST MOVEMENT? hehehe

[tarpolano]

mao diay na ang theosophy.. interesting lagi

[joshua259]

hahay... another personal attack on the people who have been arguing with the TS.

this is why the whole world is so divided...

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by tarpolano mao diay na ang theosophy.. interesting lagi

Yes Theosophy is interesting for those who are readY spiritually and mentally!

"when the STUDENT is READY, the TEACHER will APPEAR." - ZEN

[regnauld]

Theosophy can never be understood at their present level of awareness by the religious fanatics!

Theosophy requires an honest and search for the TRUTH and not just on religious beliefs which is not grounded on UNIVERSAL TRUTH and WISDOM!

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebot Well at least i declare my IMO(In MY Opinion). Did you... forget this crap brad if you want to defense just do it... dont talk non-sense... were done right? if not open a thread then lets share the shame...

brad, if you put yourself down to that level, why will i stoop down to your level?!

your problem is i-personalan man gud nimo tanan.. diba gi-ingnan na ka before na dili parehas tanan tawo.. mao na diha..

the more you posts things like these, the more you defend the way you defend yourself, the more you become laughable ra jud..

you think ma-affected si reg sa imong gi-posts? or uban pang tawo diha? u probably have not really experienced real persecution and survived it.. ur still re-experiencing the pain and suffering you have undergone, and now you're just using religion to ease that inside of you..

bottomline brad, its deep inside you that's the problem.. not the people around you. the world will always be the world.. if you don't adapt, you go extinct..

what's there to defend in your post? there's nothing to argue or defend there brad..

pero klariks kaau imong personal agenda oist..

[tarpolano]

sa akong personal opinion wala man tingali dautan anang theosophy

Declared 3 objects.

* First — To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, ***, caste, or color.
* Second — To encourage the study of Comparative Religion, Philosophy, and Science.
* Third — To investigate the unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in man."[1]

hmm... will read more