Theosophy/NAM Satanic in NATURE? lecture 101

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld Well, the HEART is a UNIVERSAL SYMBOL of FEELING my friend! GOD BLESS! bluedes is a nice guy in person. Here in Istorya, we just have some fun but in reality he is very kind and down to earth! GOD BLESS!

Reg, dayon ka sa imong experiment on social psych on how we view ourselves? i'd be glad to be the subject of experiment for your lovely students!

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes Reg, dayon ka sa imong experiment on social psych on how we view ourselves? i'd be glad to be the subject of experiment for your lovely students!

Yes and BTW, I want you to give a lecture on Social Psych. I will give you the topic later!

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld Yes and BTW, I want you to give a lecture on Social Psych. I will give you the topic later!

okay2x.. i'm good to go.. please give me in advance para maka-prepare ko sa lecture..

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes okay2x.. i'm good to go.. please give me in advance para maka-prepare ko sa lecture..

Yes I will! Happy Teaching and Lecturing in advance! I know you are a GREAT TEACHER in Math!

[regnauld]

God and the Devil


Ancient religious history shows us that among all nations the teaching regarding the inner Christos Spirit was set forth under somewhat different forms; and it further shows that when an Avatara [a Sanskrit word, meaning " descent," and applied in ordinary usage to signify the descent or incarnation of a ray of the Divine], a great teacher, a Savior, so to speak, came among the people, there was also said to be manifest an opposing force -- an "evil" force. The religion of each of the peoples conceived the gods and the devils more or less in a different way. Research has shown that the "Devil," or "Adversary," as a personal power, was accentuated in the later religious teachings of the Jews preceding the time of Jesus; and it is also shown that the Jews had come under the influence of the Persians, with whom they were more or less associated, who, as is well known, held a dualism in religion. In the Old and New Testaments, we find that this evil force is there personified; and from the establishment of the Christian Church till the present epoch, we have had presented to us, as the greatest foe to human nature and all our godlike aspirations and efforts, a personification of malevolence, His Satanic Majesty, the personified Devil.


It was not so many years ago -- I can recall it from my childhood days -- that hellfire was preached as existing in a place set apart somewhere for the punishment of sinners and for all those who did not acknowledge the orthodox God. This place of torment was said to be presided over by the Devil himself. In those days it was also taught that there was a place set apart at some point in space, called heaven, where the Angels and the Elect played their harps and sang the glory of God, while the rest of humanity was supposed to be in hell, suffering the agonies of eternal damnation. These teachings were spiritual obscurations that clouded the vision and hardened the hearts of our ancestors for centuries. They were instilled into the very blood and fiber of the race, and the mind of man was psychologized with a really terrible fear, which has not yet been entirely eliminated from it.

[Acts23]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld FYI, bluedes is an official member of The Theosophical Society in the Philippines! BTW I want you to study this for your ENLIGHTENMENT! Theosophical Light on the Christian Bible ByHenry T. Edge, M.A., D.LITT. [Originally published by Theosophical University Press, Covina, California, 1945] Contents Part I 1. Man's Second Birth 2. The 'Father' and the 'Son' 3. The Bible as an Esoteric Book 4. 'Creation' 5. Redemption, Salvation, Atonement 6. Kingdom of Heaven 7. "The God Within" 8. Satan, the Adversary 9. The Flood Myth 10. The Golden Rule 11. The Lord's Supper 12. The Spirit of God Dwelleth in You 13. "In Christ Shall All Be Made Alive" 14. The Second Coming 15. The Old Testament 16. The 'Holy Ghost' 17. The Cross 18. Did Jesus Have an Esoteric School? GOD BLESS! So, please OPEN YOUR MIND, HEART and SOUL and STUDY OBJECTIVELY! GOD BLESS!

Mao ba reg...wala man gud niya gi qualify iya self. Sige ko ask niya about it but lahi man ang itubag. Well if that is the case then let Blue join the bandwagon.


Reg...as i have pointed out many times already the bible is my reference or my basis upon saying that TS is from the Devil.

The bible clearly pointed for us that Jesus has resurrected from the dead but TS denies such event. From that alone Biblical Christians can give a guilty of violating fundamental christian doctrines verdict on TS.

The resurrection and Death of Jesus plays a major role in Christian Doctrines. So from the Christian POV TS is Satanic.

Then in the bible it is prohibited to practice mediumship w/c you guys are practising.

I have been enlighten already reg.

wow daghana gud ana would you mine tagsa tagsaon nato ug discuss na imong gi pang post diha nga reference...let us see if that is all true? puede?

[Acts23]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld God and the Devil Ancient religious history shows us that among all nations the teaching regarding the inner Christos Spirit was set forth under somewhat different forms; and it further shows that when an Avatara [a Sanskrit word, meaning " descent," and applied in ordinary usage to signify the descent or incarnation of a ray of the Divine], a great teacher, a Savior, so to speak, came among the people, there was also said to be manifest an opposing force -- an "evil" force. The religion of each of the peoples conceived the gods and the devils more or less in a different way. Research has shown that the "Devil," or "Adversary," as a personal power, was accentuated in the later religious teachings of the Jews preceding the time of Jesus; and it is also shown that the Jews had come under the influence of the Persians, with whom they were more or less associated, who, as is well known, held a dualism in religion. In the Old and New Testaments, we find that this evil force is there personified; and from the establishment of the Christian Church till the present epoch, we have had presented to us, as the greatest foe to human nature and all our godlike aspirations and efforts, a personification of malevolence, His Satanic Majesty, the personified Devil. It was not so many years ago -- I can recall it from my childhood days -- that hellfire was preached as existing in a place set apart somewhere for the punishment of sinners and for all those who did not acknowledge the orthodox God. This place of torment was said to be presided over by the Devil himself. In those days it was also taught that there was a place set apart at some point in space, called heaven, where the Angels and the Elect played their harps and sang the glory of God, while the rest of humanity was supposed to be in hell, suffering the agonies of eternal damnation. These teachings were spiritual obscurations that clouded the vision and hardened the hearts of our ancestors for centuries. They were instilled into the very blood and fiber of the race, and the mind of man was psychologized with a really terrible fear, which has not yet been entirely eliminated from it.

inner christos? are these the mahatmas?

naa lang koy question reg...ngano kaning mga Avatars nga imong gisulti ngano man that they contradict each other?

then if para ninyo God is impersonal ngano mo incarnate man siya into a personal being?

The jews were under the persians? Reg your reference is wrong...

before there were persians and Jews the personified Devil was already existing in the minds of the ancient people.

did you just copy and paste this article reg? or you typed it from a book...reg ikaw ra man diay ang kinahanglan magtoon objectively reg...kay basin gidawat lang pod dayon nimo ng mga libro like Isis unveiled ,The secret Doctrine ug oban pa. hehe w/o proper investigation.

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 inner christos? are these the mahatmas? naa lang koy question reg...ngano kaning mga Avatars nga imong gisulti ngano man that they contradict each other? then if para ninyo God is impersonal ngano mo incarnate man siya into a personal being?

that is a dogma created by your church/religion..

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 The jews were under the persians? Reg your reference is wrong... before there were persians and Jews the personified Devil was already existing in the minds of the ancient people. did you just copy and paste this article reg? or you typed it from a book...reg ikaw ra man diay ang kinahanglan magtoon objectively reg...kay basin gidawat lang pod dayon nimo ng mga libro like Isis unveiled ,The secret Doctrine ug oban pa. hehe w/o proper investigation.

brad, simple ra man ang tubag ani.. your mind is not yet ready to understand the tenets and precepts of Theosophy..

[bluedes]

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 Mao ba reg...wala man gud niya gi qualify iya self. Sige ko ask niya about it but lahi man ang itubag. Well if that is the case then let Blue join the bandwagon.

yey! free ride with snaks ni xa.. ala kaoshung bus? pletehe ko hap!

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 Reg...as i have pointed out many times already the bible is my reference or my basis upon saying that TS is from the Devil.

Theosophy is the origin of all religions.. IN all major religions, theosophy is the heart of the basic teachings of religions. In Islam, in Buddhism, in Judaism, in Christianity, and other religions, they speak of Theosophy in different perspectives and applications to different walks of life. The Christ is a very noble element of Theosophy. For us to be Christ-like is constant aspiration of all Theosophists..

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 The bible clearly pointed for us that Jesus has resurrected from the dead but TS denies such event. From that alone Biblical Christians can give a guilty of violating fundamental christian doctrines verdict on TS. The resurrection and Death of Jesus plays a major role in Christian Doctrines. So from the Christian POV TS is Satanic.

Theosophy does not deny Jesus resurrection. In fact, we acknowledge it. What is your source for this false allegation and accusation?

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 Then in the bible it is prohibited to practice mediumship w/c you guys are practising.

Many of the members do not practice mediumship. Only certain people practice it, because they are already capable of mediumship. and mediumship is not for the many, only for the few who are assigned to do it. THat is the same teaching in the Bible. Mediumship is prohibited to the many, but not to all.

Even in Christianity, there is what you call mediumship. The saints and martyrs who claim to have heard or seen apparitions from the Divine are also called mediums. Did you know that?

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 I have been enlighten already reg. wow daghana gud ana would you mine tagsa tagsaon nato ug discuss na imong gi pang post diha nga reference...let us see if that is all true? puede?

it is good that you claim to be enlighten already.. now you are expected to practice that enlightenment thru kindness and good deeds. Are practicing it already my good brother in Christ?

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 inner christos? are these the mahatmas? naa lang koy question reg...ngano kaning mga Avatars nga imong gisulti ngano man that they contradict each other? then if para ninyo God is impersonal ngano mo incarnate man siya into a personal being? The jews were under the persians? Reg your reference is wrong... before there were persians and Jews the personified Devil was already existing in the minds of the ancient people. did you just copy and paste this article reg? or you typed it from a book...reg ikaw ra man diay ang kinahanglan magtoon objectively reg...kay basin gidawat lang pod dayon nimo ng mga libro like Isis unveiled ,The secret Doctrine ug oban pa. hehe w/o proper investigation.

What do you mean contradict each other? Can you state some examples and can you be specific.?

GOD, the absolute is not a person but a PRINCIPLE. We humans reincarnate for the purpose of becoming ONE WITH GOD as Jesus The Christ said, "Be Perfect as your heavenly father is perfect." This cannot be attained in just one lifetime only ! We don't believe in HEll as a literal place after death.

I may be wrong but I read and study Ancient Mystery Religions. Did you study Ancient Mystery Religions? Christianity is nothing new but a product of this Mystery Religions. Are you aware of god Mithras in Perisa? god Osiris in Egypt and god Dionysius in Greece? They have something in common with the Jesus story and they were far older than Christianity! '

Christianity is a pagan religion! Your bible comes from the Roman Catholic Church and The Roman Catholic Church was influenced by PAGANISM!

Are you aware of these facts?

GOD BLESS!

[Acts23]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld What do you mean contradict each other? Can you state some examples and can you be specific.?

Do you consider Krishna, Buddha, Jesus as Avatars?

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld GOD, the absolute is not a person but a PRINCIPLE. We humans reincarnate for the purpose of becoming ONE WITH GOD as Jesus The Christ said, "Be Perfect as your heavenly father is perfect." This cannot be attained in just one lifetime only ! We don't believe in HEll as a literal place after death.

In other better translation reg it means "Be holy as your father is holy. Being holy means being Set apart and not being perfect. See Im better when it comes to exegesis, so I advise you to drop this habit of yours of quoting bible verses to satisfy your own doctrine. I have a degree, you dont, and there is a big difference between an amateur and a professional.

God is a principle? very vague ha...so reincarnation is the solution to be one with the impersonal Brahma? hahaha very hindu...not so original pod diay ning TS.

How can an imperosnal God produce personal beings? and what is this impersonal God incarnating as a personal avatars? di ba lipat lipat reg noh ang inyong doktrina? hehe. Saon sige man suyop si blavatsky ug marijuana gud.

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld I may be wrong but I read and study Ancient Mystery Religions. Did you study Ancient Mystery Religions? Christianity is nothing new but a product of this Mystery Religions. Are you aware of god Mithras in Perisa? god Osiris in Egypt and god Dionysius in Greece? They have something in common with the Jesus story and they were far older than Christianity! ' Christianity is a pagan religion! Your bible comes from the Roman Catholic Church and The Roman Catholic Church was influenced by PAGANISM! Are you aware of these facts? GOD BLESS!

Catholicism maybe but not Evangelicals and other non-catholics.

Yes i did some research about Mithra and other pagan gods and goddesses. You know what i found? The dates are problematic.

[kebot]

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts23 Do you consider Krishna, Buddha, Jesus as Avatars? In other better translation reg it means "Be holy as your father is holy. Being holy means being Set apart and not being perfect. See Im better when it comes to exegesis, so I advise you to drop this habit of yours of quoting bible verses to satisfy your own doctrine. I have a degree, you dont, and there is a big difference between an amateur and a professional. God is a principle? very vague ha...so reincarnation is the solution to be one with the impersonal Brahma? hahaha very hindu...not so original pod diay ning TS. How can an imperosnal God produce personal beings? and what is this impersonal God incarnating as a personal avatars? di ba lipat lipat reg noh ang inyong doktrina? hehe. Saon sige man suyop si blavatsky ug marijuana gud. Catholicism maybe but not Evangelicals and other non-catholics. Yes i did some research about Mithra and other pagan gods and goddesses. You know what i found? The dates are problematic.

Of course brad... no other book is as consistent as the Bible... errors are from translation not the content itself. To think they have different authors... nice posts there... i enjoy reading your posts... thumbs up!

[Acts23]

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes yey! free ride with snaks ni xa.. ala kaoshung bus? pletehe ko hap! Theosophy is the origin of all religions.. IN all major religions, theosophy is the heart of the basic teachings of religions. In Islam, in Buddhism, in Judaism, in Christianity, and other religions, they speak of Theosophy in different perspectives and applications to different walks of life. The Christ is a very noble element of Theosophy. For us to be Christ-like is constant aspiration of all Theosophists..

wow,kanusa lang gani na established ang theosophy? then mao nay origin sa tanang religion. then fyi ang theosophy pa man gani ang nagsunod sunod sa buddhism ug hinduism ug esoteric christianity (gnostics) nya mao na hinoon origin?

blue...novice pa ka noh sa TS?

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes Theosophy does not deny Jesus resurrection. In fact, we acknowledge it. What is your source for this false allegation and accusation?

really? so daghan diay ug version ang TS?

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes Many of the members do not practice mediumship. Only certain people practice it, because they are already capable of mediumship. and mediumship is not for the many, only for the few who are assigned to do it. THat is the same teaching in the Bible. Mediumship is prohibited to the many, but not to all. Even in Christianity, there is what you call mediumship. The saints and martyrs who claim to have heard or seen apparitions from the Divine are also called mediums. Did you know that?

Yes i know that but thats not biblical christianity. Did you know that? Who told you that the bible is teaching mediumship? tsk tsk...wa jud ko kita ana blue...bakak diay to imo gisulti noh nga nag study ka ug bible? hehe hala bakakon si blue.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluedes it is good that you claim to be enlighten already.. now you are expected to practice that enlightenment thru kindness and good deeds. Are practicing it already my good brother in Christ?

Yes I am practicing it. kabalo ka blue we have outreach programs...we give free medical check ups and foods...hehe...

Si blavatsky enlighten pod to siya? daghan lagi pod siya mga court battles noh? siguro na enligthen to siya sa marijuana.

[bungot25]

GO ACts abiba ko nimo bro.....tan awon nato unsay ikasulti aning mga TS!!!!

[Acts23]

Quote: Originally Posted by kebot Of course brad... no other book is as consistent as the Bible... errors are from translation not the content itself. To think they have different authors... nice posts there... i enjoy reading your posts... thumbs up!

very consistent ang bible indeed, kuwang lang sila ug pagtoon.