Do you support women as priests?

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by carmicaeld ah, but your very understanding of the priesthood is wrong. priesthood is a vocation. not a "line of work" or a "job".

But it is a job! Ask any priest if they don't receive "suweldo". They have payslips.

Quote: Originally Posted by carmicaeld okay then, let us rephrase the statement: i wonder why hollywood does not hire women to play leading ACTOR roles. hm...

In hollywood, they don't use actors and actresses now... they prefer to be called "actors in a leading role". If you watch The Oscars or Golden Globe Awards, they present an award with a title of "ACTORS...". That's exactly what to be politically correct because of an equal opportunity law.

[cassenav]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld For me I would support women as priests as one Franciscan said The Christian Church is not a state run by thought police. Having a good idea is not opposed to the Gospel. If it is God's will, time will take care of it. What do you think?

I like the idea sir reg. women empowerment! Gone are the days when women are believed to be incapable of doing what men can do.

Women as priests or religious leaders in the community is not new to Philippine society. Remember the babaylans?

[cassenav]

Quote: Originally Posted by butitoy hahay .. and BROTHERHOOD? brotherhood..puro ra na men..kaapil pud koani in m younger years..puro ra gyud laki. BROTHERHOOD Pronunciation (US): Dictionary entry overview: What does brotherhood mean? • BROTHERHOOD (noun) The noun BROTHERHOOD has 4 senses: 1. the kinship relation between a male offspring and the siblings 2. people engaged in a particular occupation 3. the feeling that men should treat one another like brothers 4. an organization of employees formed to bargain with the employer Familiarity information: BROTHERHOOD used as a noun is uncommon. Dictionary entry details • BROTHERHOOD (noun) Meaning: The kinship relation between a male offspring and the siblings Classified under: Nouns denoting relations between people or things or ideas Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): family relationship; kinship; relationship ((anthropology) relatedness or connection by blood or marriage or adoption) Meaning: People engaged in a particular occupation Classified under: Nouns denoting groupings of people or objects Synonyms: sodality; brotherhood; fraternity Context example: the medical fraternity Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): class; social class; socio-economic class (people having the same social or economic status) Meronyms (members of "brotherhood"): brother (a male person who is a fellow member (of a fraternity or religion of other group)) sodalist (a member of a sodality) Meaning: The feeling that men should treat one another like brothers Classified under: Nouns denoting feelings and emotions Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): friendliness (a feeling of liking for another person; enjoyment in their company) Meaning: An organization of employees formed to bargain with the employer Classified under: Nouns denoting groupings of people or objects Synonyms: union; trades union; trade union; labor union; brotherhood Context example: you have to join the union in order to get a job Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): organisation; organization (a group of people who work together) Hyponyms (each of the following is a kind of "brotherhood"): industrial union; vertical union (a labor union that admits all workers in a given industry irrespective of their craft) craft union (a labor union whose membership is restricted to workers in a particular craft) company union (a union of workers for a single company; a union not affiliated with a larger union) I.W.W.; Industrial Workers of the World; IWW (a former international labor union and radical labor movement in the United States; founded in Chicago in 1905 and dedicated to the overthrow of capitalism; its membership declined after World War I) Holonyms ("brotherhood" is a part of...): labor; labor movement; trade union movement (an organized attempt by workers to improve their status by united action (particularly via labor unions) or the leaders of this movement) huh! wa man gi mention ang sisters ngari... sorority...para sa mga girls only. 3rd.4th.etc gender not included

talking bout gender sensitivity..hikhik.

by the way brotherhood is the same as FRATERNITY.

LIBERTE..EQUALITE..FRATERNITE..Long live the revolution!

[carmicaeld]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan But it is a job! Ask any priest if they don't receive "suweldo". They have payslips.

you sure? i've known a lot of RC priests and all of them have no payslips. check your facts.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinyalan In hollywood, they don't use actors and actresses now... they prefer to be called "actors in a leading role". If you watch The Oscars or Golden Globe Awards, they present an award with a title of "ACTORS...". That's exactly what to be politically correct because of an equal opportunity law.

cool story, bro. then what is this: Academy award for Best Actresses?
and this: Oscars for Best Actresses?

ha ha ha. oh, wow. check your facts.

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by butitoy hahay .. and BROTHERHOOD? brotherhood..puro ra na men..kaapil pud koani in m younger years..puro ra gyud laki. BROTHERHOOD Pronunciation (US): Dictionary entry overview: What does brotherhood mean? • BROTHERHOOD (noun) The noun BROTHERHOOD has 4 senses: 1. the kinship relation between a male offspring and the siblings 2. people engaged in a particular occupation 3. the feeling that men should treat one another like brothers 4. an organization of employees formed to bargain with the employer Familiarity information: BROTHERHOOD used as a noun is uncommon. Dictionary entry details • BROTHERHOOD (noun) Meaning: The kinship relation between a male offspring and the siblings Classified under: Nouns denoting relations between people or things or ideas Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): family relationship; kinship; relationship ((anthropology) relatedness or connection by blood or marriage or adoption) Meaning: People engaged in a particular occupation Classified under: Nouns denoting groupings of people or objects Synonyms: sodality; brotherhood; fraternity Context example: the medical fraternity Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): class; social class; socio-economic class (people having the same social or economic status) Meronyms (members of "brotherhood"): brother (a male person who is a fellow member (of a fraternity or religion of other group)) sodalist (a member of a sodality) Meaning: The feeling that men should treat one another like brothers Classified under: Nouns denoting feelings and emotions Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): friendliness (a feeling of liking for another person; enjoyment in their company) Meaning: An organization of employees formed to bargain with the employer Classified under: Nouns denoting groupings of people or objects Synonyms: union; trades union; trade union; labor union; brotherhood Context example: you have to join the union in order to get a job Hypernyms ("brotherhood" is a kind of...): organisation; organization (a group of people who work together) Hyponyms (each of the following is a kind of "brotherhood"): industrial union; vertical union (a labor union that admits all workers in a given industry irrespective of their craft) craft union (a labor union whose membership is restricted to workers in a particular craft) company union (a union of workers for a single company; a union not affiliated with a larger union) I.W.W.; Industrial Workers of the World; IWW (a former international labor union and radical labor movement in the United States; founded in Chicago in 1905 and dedicated to the overthrow of capitalism; its membership declined after World War I) Holonyms ("brotherhood" is a part of...): labor; labor movement; trade union movement (an organized attempt by workers to improve their status by united action (particularly via labor unions) or the leaders of this movement) huh! wa man gi mention ang sisters ngari... sorority...para sa mga girls only. 3rd.4th.etc gender not included

Brad, sorry you didn't even include the word "UNIVERSAL"!

What is UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD?

The Universal Brotherhood is a term used in theosophical writings. It refers to the theosophical conception that all human beings are members of a spiritual unity.

"Universal Brotherhood" by Scott Osterhage

[tripwire]

Quote: Originally Posted by carmicaeld ah, but your very understanding of the priesthood is wrong. priesthood is a vocation. not a "line of work" or a "job".

Not entirely. Most parishes have rectories where the priests get room and board. They get a salary which they are free to use as they wish. They have bank accounts, credit cards, and they make investments. One priest I know makes extra money in the summers by being the spiritual director on pilgrimages and others by giving talks and workshops in parishes. This is his money to keep. Priests have to buy their own personal items...toiletries, clothing, cars, gas, books, etc. Some parishes have TVs and computers for the resident priests to use, but some buy their own...for instance if they wanted a big screen tv or a lap top. Some parishes, like mine, have very nice rectories with housekeepers and cooks, but other parishes the priests basically live on their own and do their own cleaning and cooking. I know quite a few priests who own their own homes or apartments which they use duing days off or on vacation time.

secular priests, that is those attached to the bishop of a diocese rather than to a religious order, receive a salary based on their job--pastor, parochial vicar, chaplain, director of a diocesan office, teacher, or whatever. in most dioceses all priests receive the same salary, unless the work for another organization such as a college or hospital. they usually receive a stipend for expenses such as gasoline, and sometimes a living allowance. Most parishes have residences called rectories. Some live in private homes or apartments near their jobs, and some have rooms at seminaries, colleges or other such places. Retired priests often live in parish rectories with the younger priests, in seminaries, or in nursing homes or assisted living if necessary. they do not take a vow of poverty. If they have private means such as family money they may spend or invest it in any way they choose. They get pay into SS and medicare, and usually into a diocesan pension or retirement plan.

Order priests take a vow of poverty, and usually may own nothing personal, even their clothing is considered to belong to the order, and if they receive gifts, technically they belong to the order, although usually they are permitted to keep and use appropriate personal articles like toiletries, pens, books etc. They generally live in a residence provided by the order and are given an allowance for expenses such as gasoline or whatever is required if their work takes them outside.

[rapperyz]

Kanang mga tao nga sige basi sa bible ky mura rsad ug extremist. kaliwat sa mga muslim extremist nga cge lng ug basi sa quran... maong maglagot mga tao ninyu... mura man mu gud ug nerd nga nasobra-an sa religion. mga hardcore mn mu gud...

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by rapperyz Kanang mga tao nga sige basi sa bible ky mura rsad ug extremist. kaliwat sa mga muslim extremist nga cge lng ug basi sa quran... maong maglagot mga tao ninyu... mura man mu gud ug nerd nga nasobra-an sa religion. mga hardcore mn mu gud...

Bitaw daghan na sila diri brad unya lain-lain ug brand names! Generic name is CHRISTIANITY!

[tripwire]

Some are called religious extremists... actually these people are fearful that if they don't do what the Book says... they will be swimming in the fires of hell. They even force their kids to dedicate themselves to obey religion to the extent obviously creating a big gap between followers and obedience and that they will "righteously" judge people bending the Bible's teachings.

and we find these kind people here in the forum too.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

Quote: Originally Posted by tripwire Some are called religious extremists... actually these people are fearful that if they don't do what the Book says... they will be swimming in the fires of hell. They even force their kids to dedicate themselves to obey religion to the extent obviously creating a big gap between followers and obedience and that they will "righteously" judge people bending the Bible's teachings. and we find these kind people here in the forum too.

oh, i know just the right person who fits with that description.

drum rolls please... tada! ms.kebot! viva fanatica!

[butitoy]

kaluoy ninyo...

blinded by ur own wisdom..

[tripwire]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 oh, i know just the right person who fits with that description. drum rolls please... tada! ms.kebot! viva fanatica!

hahahahaha....

Quote: Originally Posted by butitoy kaluoy ninyo... blinded by ur own wisdom..

Can you explain what "blinded by your own wisdom?" Because I thought "wisdom" is synonymous to "enlightenment".

[seven_segment]

bact to the topic...


being a Catholic, the sacraments must be conducted by a male priest...


as for the others, i think i don't need to give a damn...

[butitoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by tripwire hahahahaha.... Can you explain what "blinded by your own wisdom?" Because I thought "wisdom" is synonymous to "enlightenment".

huh?

is it not self explainatory?

[tarpolano]

Quote: Originally Posted by tripwire hahahahaha.... Can you explain what "blinded by your own wisdom?" Because I thought "wisdom" is synonymous to "enlightenment".

tungod tingali sa "light" na buta nuon