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Old 07-04-2009, 07:06 AM
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The real reason why the church cannot accept and tolerate women as priests is because the church is PATRIARCHAL and women were suppressed and declared as inferior to men. But when you study closely during the ancient times, the socitey before was MATRIARCHAL, dominated by women. Now in our times, MEN and WOMEN are now beginning to have COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS and the heirarchy of the church dominated by men are now slowly beginning to feel the pressure coming from different sectors of the society. The FEMINIST MOVEMENT and GENDER EQUALITY are now paving the way and the church seems to be DEFENSIVE and THREATENED by these emerging movements!
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The real reason why the church cannot accept and tolerate women as priests is because the church is PATRIARCHAL and women were suppressed and declared as inferior to men. But when you study closely during the ancient times, the socitey before was MATRIARCHAL, dominated by women. Now in our times, MEN and WOMEN are now beginning to have COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS and the heirarchy of the church dominated by men are now slowly beginning to feel the pressure coming from different sectors of the society. The FEMINIST MOVEMENT and GENDER EQUALITY are now paving the way and the church seems to be DEFENSIVE and THREATENED by these emerging movements!
you mean the time of cleopatra?
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The real reason why the church cannot accept and tolerate women as priests is because the church is PATRIARCHAL and women were suppressed and declared as inferior to men. But when you study closely during the ancient times, the socitey before was MATRIARCHAL, dominated by women. Now in our times, MEN and WOMEN are now beginning to have COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS and the heirarchy of the church dominated by men are now slowly beginning to feel the pressure coming from different sectors of the society. The FEMINIST MOVEMENT and GENDER EQUALITY are now paving the way and the church seems to be DEFENSIVE and THREATENED by these emerging movements!
"according to your opinion", sir.
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How about Mary Magdalene, the most beloved disciple of Jesus in The Gospel of Philip found in Nag Hammadi, Egypt as one of the authentic sacred books?
so, sir, when did the Vatican accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
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"according to your opinion", sir.
It's not my opinion that the church is patriarchal and its not also my opinion that during the ancient times, the society was matriarchal!
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so, sir, when did the Vatican accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
Well, the vatican knows that The Gospel of Philip is authentic when discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt and the bible is just a compilation of books and therefore, never complete. Have you heard of Irenaeus who compiled the bible? He even made such error in deciding what and which to include those gospels. He asserted in his own logic, that since the universe has four elements, it is reasonable that there would only be four gospels. Is that logical?
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It's not my opinion that the church is patriarchal and its not also my opinion that during the ancient times, the society was matriarchal!
don't mix them with conclusions that are clearly only YOUR opinion.
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Well, the vatican knows that The Gospel of Philip is authentic when discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt and the bible is just a compilation of books and therefore, never complete. Have you heard of Irenaeus who compiled the bible? He even made such error in deciding what and which to include those gospels. He asserted in his own logic, that since the universe has four elements, it is reasonable that there would only be four gospels. Is that logical?
cool story, bro. so does the Roman Catholic Church accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
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cool story, bro. so does the Roman Catholic Church accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
Of course the 4 gospels as defined by Irenaeus as the 4 elements are the canonical books and Bible Scholars even asserted that those 4 gospels were not even written by the apostles themsleves. Now, I don't give a damn whether those are canonicals or not. They don't even meet the criteria of the reliable books mentioned by historians and bible scholars because in the first place they are not authoritative. Are you aware of this FACT that those 4 gosples were not even authoritative?
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don't mix them with conclusions that are clearly only YOUR opinion.
Now, are you aware that the church is PATRIARCHAL? Are you also aware that during the ancient times, there was a time that society was MATRIARCHAL? I want you to study history to find out if I am wrong!

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BTW, I have my own opinion and you have yours and let us separate FACT from FANCY now!
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Of course the 4 gospels as defined by Irenaeus as the 4 elements are the canonical books and Bible Scholars even asserted that those 4 gospels were not even written by the apostles themsleves. Now, I don't give a damn whether those are canonicals or not. They don't even meet the criteria of the reliable books mentioned by historians and bible sholars because in the first place they are not authoritative. Are you aware of this FACT that those 4 gosples were not even authoritative?
ha ha ha, oh wow. so, does the Roman Catholic Church accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
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BTW, I have my own opinion and you have yours and let us separate FACT from FANCY now!
so, like i'm guessing this is the fancy part. amiryt? :

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ha ha ha, oh wow. so, does the Roman Catholic Church accept the Gospel of Philip as canonical?
That's besides the point but then the Gospel of Philip is as authentic as the four gospels! Now, would you only include ther 4 gospels because there are only 4 elements in the universe. Crazy, isn't it ?
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so, like i'm guessing this is the fancy part. amiryt? :
Care to elaborate why women cannot be priests? Don't you think there is NO POSSIBLITY that women cannot be priests?
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so, like i'm guessing this is the fancy part. amiryt? :
Do you think the TRUTH why women cannot be priests is based purely on SPIRITUALITY and not the POLITICS of the CHURCH? I doubt.
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