“Why So Much God And Poverty?”

[NASYO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor All of these because of ignorance. Ignorance of the consequences. And ignorance has its costs. Example: Kung ignorante kag manila, mosakay kag taxi. Unya itoyoktoyok ka sa driver. Pagkanaog nimo pabayron kag P1,000 kay maoy natatak sa metro. That was your cost of ignorance. Kay kung suheto pa kag manila, pwede ra ka mosakay og jeep or LRT. So to summarize it all. Our poverty is what we can call payment for our "COST of IGNORANCE"

moa nga "imagina" usa ang mga butang una nimo buhaton..

to give you an idea about the poverty we had now in our country, read more about SURPLUS.
IMPERIALISM.

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor Naay theories ang mga historians nga kung wala pa kuno patya ni LapuLapu si Magelan, buotan unta ang mga Cebuano (o Filipinos) karon. Kay ang ipadala sa Spain diri ang mga tarong nga tawo. Pero pagkamatay ni Magelan, walay moari diri kay nahadlok. Mao nga ang nanganhi mao ra ang mga kriminal sa ilang lugar. Maoy sinugdan o gigikanan sa kakurap o sa kabati sa atong kinaiya. Ambot theory ra sad na nila.

Could be. But we don't theories anymore because before the spaniards came, they already conquered lands and institute religion through force. Why? Greed. One thing in their minds.... riches.

[baliguat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor Unsa ni cheat sa warcraft?

Apil pud diay ka ana? hehehe

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by baliguat Apil pud diay ka ana? hehehe

Warchraft I, warcraft II, and warcraft III.
Best strategy game other than starcraft.
Naniguwang na ko ani oi!

[jvadolfo_1983]

God has nothing to do with our poverty....
God leaves the choice to us, whether to be rich or poor....
Life isn't just about you...

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by jvadolfo_1983 God has nothing to do with our poverty.... God leaves the choice to us, whether to be rich or poor.... Life isn't just about you...

Go has nothing to do with all of us.
He just creates us.

But it is how we think about God that has to do with our poverty.

Example, we think that God will bless us if we spend our money on fiestas.
Then we end up spending our whole year savings. Mangutang pa gani.
Therefore we become poor because of this specific concept (of God).

[baliguat]

Naa man jud kay point ana Sir Doctor, pareha ra gud kay Birthday nako gusto kung mu gasto, how much more of honoring the Saints (fiestas) Pasalamat bah? Honoring Saints is honoring God But it doesnt mean that Saints is a God.

Pwede ra pud nga kung mag birthday ko kung baga, di nalang ko mugasto ug pagkaon kay epanghatag nalang sa mga nanginahanglan----> mao man pud nay correct nga pag hatag pud.... Kay para sa uban nga katong wala pa maka hibalo kung unsay mortification kay mag Fasting daw nya di mukaon pero gi save ra pud diay niya iya food or money for the other day (wala niya gipang hatag)... hehehe..

Sunod kung mag Birthday ta pwede man pud di na ta mugasto and epang hatag nalang sa mga nanginahanglan...

[Sinyalan]

Quote: Originally Posted by jvadolfo_1983 God has nothing to do with our poverty.... God leaves the choice to us, whether to be rich or poor.... Life isn't just about you...

Of course he has nothing to do with poverty, because he simply not there to ask for his help. Why would some people go to pray for god even he doesn't listen? It's everyone's life, choose your own not "something" that's it's not there in the first place. My advice to these people is to find a job! Don't wait for your god to find job for you.

[baliguat]

Di pud tabangan ang tapulan oi...

[harris]

@souldocotr, Example, we think that God will bless us if we spend our money on fiestas. Then we end up spending our whole year savings. Mangutang pa gani. Therefore we become poor because of this specific concept (of God).

Do we think like this every time we celebrate our fiestas dili man siguro soul doctor!

And besides unsa pa may e spend sa mga pobre kung wala nay kwarta, ug kinsa pa may mag pa utang kung walay ikabayad!

Peace men!!!

[ix-888]

In my own opinion, much of the poverty in our country as well as other previously colonized countries all boils down to the structure and culture created by the colonizers way way back almost 500 years ago . . . In the not so popular history books, it was known that our country has been one of the centers for trade in the Southeast, be it China, Malaysia, Indonesia and all the other sea faring traders of that time . . . We were once well known in other other countries as written in their history books . . . But then came the Spaniards, who with their utmost arrogance preyed on our ancestors ignorance.... The current Lungsod-Simbahan-Plaza-Merkado system was set-up and the "Friars became the Right hand of God". They instituted "privileged Filipinos" to become their puppet officials to do their dirty work of manipulating their co-Filipinos. Our government now is just as corrupt as what the Spaniards had wanted it during those times... Divide and Conquer as they say . . . Break down the solid Muslim trading communities and create geographically distinct towns . . . Make the Filipinos forget their slavery by creating a puppet government, promoting siestas, fiestas and using the Word of God as an excuse to colonization . . . . As time went by, more and more control took place, including trade and economy and we see each other not as Filipinos but as Cebuanos, Bisaya, Tagalog, Ilonggo, Bicolano, Ilocano, etc. . .
Now, we are free from the Spaniards, Japs and "seemingly" free from the Americans.... But, where do we really stand right now? The way we think, we act and do things, are still the way it is that these colonizers want us to be ... DIVIDED, LAZY, CORRUPT and DELUSIONAL . . . So how can we really progress if we ourselves do not realize this? How can we change for the better if we are unaware of it? And how can we change what we are if the general culture which has been there for centuries persists?

Let us not blame God (or whoever or whatever you believe in) for all our miseries . . . If you're Christian, is this really what the Christ has intended? Is the Spanish Christianity before which we have adapted until now what the real Christ really wanted us to believe? Let us look at ourselves again in the mirror and ask ourselves . . .

We are what who we were . . .