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Old 06-24-2008, 02:02 PM
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@mr ho...first and foremost i wanna stress that i understand the nature of the Christian God...believe me i do...i also believe He is more than just that....with me to limit Him with the Christian definition is not enough ...He is beyond all that..

second...the reason why i refused to discuss stuff in detail is because i do not like the "i am right you are wrong" attitude...it makes both parties defensive and thus a healthy discussion is no longer be possible

third...in my opinion discussing religion is a moot point...there will always be clashing of ideas...when we discuss spirituality...then that is a different thing...however i see that most of the time the discussion might start at that but ultimately goes back to arguing which religion or faith is RIGHT...mao na ingon ko usik lang sa panahon

i am all for discussion...to share and learn....but if your ideas get shot at the first chance a forumer with a different point of view deems it very necessary to "CORRECT" you...pag kakapoi...

if one of these days i will stumble upon a thread that encourages free flow of ideas and the objective is the open and liberal discussion about spirituality...na bisan ma ugmaan pa ko dinokdok....but as it is...useless....kay kon sa kanta pa ni Madonna "you only see what your eyes want you to see...you only hear what your ears want you to hear...you're frozen...when your heart's not open"

so kani na lang ako last post bro....but by all means if you stumble upon a thread or start one where free exchange of ideas are encouraged... give me a shout

no offense bro...and none taken...
God bless

We should only limit the definition of who God is w/in the biblical revelations. Why? Simple logic...Can we know a certain person beyond the pages of where he or she revealed he/herself? No.

Its funny when people say that they know the Biblical God and yet wants to drag His name along with the muslims and other false religions. Obviously they are not reading the bible, therefore they dont really know the biblical God.
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Sakto gyud kay sis. Kanang uban dire kay abi nakabasa na og bibliya pwede na sila mangangkon nga ang ilang Ginoo sa bibliya mao na gyud na. Ang Ginoo para sa tanan ma muslim man o maKristiyano y pili ang Ginoo. Pastilan kung Bibliya ray basihan daghana kahang luto-on sa impyerno.

Kristiyano Katoliko ko sis pero wa gyud mi tudlo-i sa skwelahan nga Kristiyano ray maluwas. Ang uban dire pwerteng yawit nga ang dili daw motoo og bibliya kay luto-on daw sa impyerno! Murag korek...Hihihihi...murag mga ginoo kay magbuot buot man! hihihihi.
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Sakto gyud kay sis. Kanang uban dire kay abi nakabasa na og bibliya pwede na sila mangangkon nga ang ilang Ginoo sa bibliya mao na gyud na. Ang Ginoo para sa tanan ma muslim man o maKristiyano y pili ang Ginoo. Pastilan kung Bibliya ray basihan daghana kahang luto-on sa impyerno.

Kristiyano Katoliko ko sis pero wa gyud mi tudlo-i sa skwelahan nga Kristiyano ray maluwas. Ang uban dire pwerteng yawit nga ang dili daw motoo og bibliya kay luto-on daw sa impyerno! Murag korek...Hihihihi...murag mga ginoo kay magbuot buot man! hihihihi.

Yes, puede na jud mi ka angkon, kamo gani bisan wa mo nagbasa ug bibliya feeling ninyo kamo may sakto, nya ang kapait lang kay asa ninyo gi base inyong claim nga kamo sakto. kami sa bible man namo na gi base, and supported by the bilical God man ang among claim,kAMO SUPPORTED BY WHO?
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Yes, puede na jud mi ka angkon, kamo gani bisan wa mo nagbasa ug bibliya feeling ninyo kamo may sakto, nya ang kapait lang kay asa ninyo gi base inyong claim nga kamo sakto. kami sa bible man namo na gi base, and supported by the bilical God man ang among claim,kAMO SUPPORTED BY WHO?
hihihihi. katawaw-anan nimo oi. fyi, mobasa pod intawn mi. kamo diay tag-iya sa bibliya? hihihihi. wa mi moclaim nga sakto mi o kami maluwas. hihihihi. ni claim mi naay Ginoo og ang Ginoo para sa tanan dili para sa pipila. Murag kamoy ginoo no nga magbuot buot mo kinsay maluwas og kinsay dili? hihihihi. pagshur oi. Ikaw sure kaha ka maluwas ka? sa tinubagan pa nimo daan kay hagbong naka...hihihihi.
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We should only limit the definition of who God is w/in the biblical revelations. Why? Simple logic...Can we know a certain person beyond the pages of where he or she revealed he/herself? No.

Its funny when people say that they know the Biblical God and yet wants to drag His name along with the muslims and other false religions. Obviously they are not reading the bible, therefore they dont really know the biblical God.
who are you to say FALSE RELIGION ang dli Christian?
not because you read/know the bible inside out doesnt mean sakto naka. doesnt mean maluwas naka..
its now your knowledge about the bible the will save you. its your actions.. remember that.
Dli lang Christian ang maluwas.. Salvation is for Everyone.. everyone who deserves it....
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who are you to say FALSE RELIGION ang dli Christian?
not because you read/know the bible inside out doesnt mean sakto naka. doesnt mean maluwas naka..
its now your knowledge about the bible the will save you. its your actions.. remember that.
Dli lang Christian ang maluwas.. Salvation is for Everyone.. everyone who deserves it....
YES! hihihihi. usahay magkatawa nalang ta nga pwerte ka panaway sa uban abi di man mobasa og bibliya. makataas tingali nig garbo ang pagbasa sa bibliya no kay pwede naman manaway sa uban? hihihihi. kasiguro ba kaha sila sa ilang kaluwasan no? hihihihi.
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YES! hihihihi. usahay magkatawa nalang ta nga pwerte ka panaway sa uban abi di man mobasa og bibliya. makataas tingali nig garbo ang pagbasa sa bibliya no kay pwede naman manaway sa uban? hihihihi. kasiguro ba kaha sila sa ilang kaluwasan no? hihihihi.
mao jud...
i thought the more you know the more humble you become...
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exactly.. naa man guro na sa bible.. instead of doing good to them na bati na noun... hayz...
instead of spreading the Good Words i condemn ma noun ang uban..
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i believe in Jesus Christ.

i also believe in others esp knang mka lead jd nato sa right path.

it doesnt matter mn cgro kng unsa or asa ka mo tuo as long as u r walking the right path.

it's like walking in many different roads but all leads to one destination.
i could never have said it better.. *wink
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THat's most interesting how people would confused deliberately the Triune GOD of the Bible as one GOD with different other gods. Scriptures explicitly points that the GOD of the Bible is a jealous GOD. He will never share his glory with allah nor shiva.

In Islam they deny the Father GOD, they deny the deity of the Son and they deny the person of the HOLY SPIRIT. Exactly what part of GOD are we agreeing about? Allah grace and mercy is conditional, but the GOD of the Bible love is unconditional --- He died for all the sinners. YEs the great flood and gomorrah not to mention hell is evidence that the same loving and kind GOD of the Bible is also a just and holy GOD. Judgment will come to all, we are accountable for everything we do, we say and we decide for. the choice is our, but the way is provided by GOD. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life!
Sir, i didn't intend to confuse God of the bible from the others. ako lang sulti basin ang gi worship nga God sa ubang religion is the same from the One worshipped by the Christians. Allah is the Father God for the Islam. So Allah's love is also unconditional. They just don't believe that Jesus Christ is the messiah.
Is being just of the Christian God is shown in the Great Flood and when He poured out wrath on to Sodom? Then Shiva is also a just god. Maybe for the Hindus, the god of destruction, the god of peace, the god who provides, and etc are all different gods; then it is a one God for the Christians.
ako2 ra ni ha.. Naka spot lang kog possibility. salamat kaayo sa response.

I believe the Christian God. and i believe the bible.
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Sir, i didn't intend to confuse God of the bible from the others. ako lang sulti basin ang gi worship nga God sa ubang religion is the same from the One worshipped by the Christians. Allah is the Father God for the Islam. So Allah's love is also unconditional. They just don't believe that Jesus Christ is the messiah.
Is being just of the Christian God is shown in the Great Flood and when He poured out wrath on to Sodom? Then Shiva is also a just god. Maybe for the Hindus, the god of destruction, the god of peace, the god who provides, and etc are all different gods; then it is a one God for the Christians.
ako2 ra ni ha.. Naka spot lang kog possibility. salamat kaayo sa response.

I believe the Christian God. and i believe the bible.
Imo pud na sir. If you want to believe that. But as I have said, they are not the same god because there are too much contradictions in their nature and character. also satanism is a religion, would you also say that GOD and satan is the same as well? that the Christian GOD and the satanist god could be one and the same? We need to be critical about what we embrace and be careful of what we believe because truly the enemy of GOD is deceitful and deceptive. he is known as the father of all lies that will lead many astray. That is the reason why we need to make a decision, whether to fully believe GOD and His word the Bible or not.
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hihihihi. katawaw-anan nimo oi. fyi, mobasa pod intawn mi. kamo diay tag-iya sa bibliya? hihihihi. wa mi moclaim nga sakto mi o kami maluwas. hihihihi. ni claim mi naay Ginoo og ang Ginoo para sa tanan dili para sa pipila. Murag kamoy ginoo no nga magbuot buot mo kinsay maluwas og kinsay dili? hihihihi. pagshur oi. Ikaw sure kaha ka maluwas ka? sa tinubagan pa nimo daan kay hagbong naka...hihihihi.
ni claim mo nga naay Ginoo? good thats correct.

ang Ginoo para tanan? hmm you are contradicting your statement nga nagbasa pod mo ug bible,well cguro nagbasa pod mo but kulang ra. Asa man sa bible nga ang Ginoo para sa tanan?

Nag ingun ang Ginoo nga gamay ra ang maluwas dili kana amoa.


Yes maluwas ako. A very Big Yes.
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who are you to say FALSE RELIGION ang dli Christian?
not because you read/know the bible inside out doesnt mean sakto naka. doesnt mean maluwas naka..
its now your knowledge about the bible the will save you. its your actions.. remember that.
Dli lang Christian ang maluwas.. Salvation is for Everyone.. everyone who deserves it....

when i say nga false religion ang dili christian, im saying it from the biblical persepctive, dili na akong personal idea.


Its not our konwledge nor our actions that will save us. Its the Work of Jesus chrsit on the cross that will.
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YES! hihihihi. usahay magkatawa nalang ta nga pwerte ka panaway sa uban abi di man mobasa og bibliya. makataas tingali nig garbo ang pagbasa sa bibliya no kay pwede naman manaway sa uban? hihihihi. kasiguro ba kaha sila sa ilang kaluwasan no? hihihihi.

Call it arrogance. I dont mind. and its not panaway but if you want to call it that way then so be it.

What i am doing is,simply correcting misinformations w/c you guys are spreading.
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