Why The Christian Faith?

[Puritan]

Quote: Originally Posted by r3roble sorry if that's your interpretation to what i've said... it's not my intention to do that. i just want you to stop comparing so that others will not again react aggressively towards you. if that's your interpretation with my simple manifestations, then i'm afraid what else you could interpret...

well if this clarification came before my reply then i wouldnt say something like that.

[aztina888]

Quote: Originally Posted by Puritan akong pasabot bah nga ang key towards knowing what is true is EDUCATION. if you have the right education makabalo ka nga sayup ng 1+1=1, gi unsa man nimo pagkabalo nga sayup na? because you were properly taught. Same thing sa religion, unsaon pagkabalo w/c one is false or not? by EDUCATION. Immerse yourself in the word of God, study it intensively and extensively. EDUCATION is the key word mam/sir.

you will know the FALSE RELIGION? nope ang leader guro moy FALSE. not the religion.
thats my point..

[Puritan]

Quote: Originally Posted by aztina888 you will know the FALSE RELIGION? nope ang leader guro moy FALSE. not the religion. thats my point..

well correct but its also correct to say nga False teachers can produced false religion.

[aztina888]

Quote: Originally Posted by Puritan This is how people thinks...I will do good work so i can enter heaven. But this is the prescription of the bible. That you will repent of your sins and believe in the work of Jesus so you can be saved. Yes wala kay angay buhaton to be SAVED. Its entirely the work of Jesus. But here is the twist, when you genuinely repent of your sins God will give you the a new spirit. The bible said that behold if anyone is in christ he is a NEW creation the old has gone and everything becomes new. in effect kung dawatun na nimo ang work ni Jesus, dili naka ganahan magpakasala.

is that your teachings? ok il respect that.
but if you ask me. its still in you. if you dont do anything youl get nothing.. if you dont go anywhere you get nowhere.. simple as that.
dli lang ta mag salig na si Jesus died on the cross for us. we have to show that we deserve to be saved.

il just repent here at home and il be saved? il just wait for my time. i know im saved nman d.i kay i repented genuinely.. i dont think so.. but imu pud na..

[aztina888]

Quote: Originally Posted by Puritan well correct but its also correct to say nga False teachers can produced false religion.

but then again. you cant say that ang ila religion is false unless FALSE jud. diba? well that would not be a religion but a cult.. (correct me with my spelling if sayup..)

[Puritan]

Quote: Originally Posted by aztina888 is that your teachings? ok il respect that. but if you ask me. its still in you. if you dont do anything youl get nothing.. if you dont go anywhere you get nowhere.. simple as that. dli lang ta mag salig na si Jesus died on the cross for us. we have to show that we deserve to be saved. il just repent here at home and il be saved? il just wait for my time. i know im saved nman d.i kay i repented genuinely.. i dont think so.. but imu pud na..

Its written in the bible, not my own.

You can repent anywhere.

if there is still a need to show something para we deserve to be saved then,whats the point of Jesus dying on the Cross?


i will discuss this later...kay naa pa koy adtoon.

[arubinkun]

Quote: Originally Posted by aztina888 is that your teachings? ok il respect that. but if you ask me. its still in you. if you dont do anything youl get nothing.. if you dont go anywhere you get nowhere.. simple as that. dli lang ta mag salig na si Jesus died on the cross for us. we have to show that we deserve to be saved. il just repent here at home and il be saved? il just wait for my time. i know im saved nman d.i kay i repented genuinely.. i dont think so.. but imu pud na..

that's not his teachings dude... its the teachings of Jesus... its in the bible...

[arubinkun]

Quote: Originally Posted by aztina888 but then again. you cant say that ang ila religion is false unless FALSE jud. diba? well that would not be a religion but a cult.. (correct me with my spelling if sayup..)

cult sir, by definition means religion a belief or as M-W would put as:

1: formal religious veneration : worship
2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people


or by our standards in translation, it is a small group of people who tends to twist some other religions teachings to benefit their own...

[aztina888]

^^thanks for the meaning of cult.

[arubinkun]

Quote: Originally Posted by aztina888 ^^thanks for the meaning of cult.

no problem... but you do have a point, it maybe considered a religion on the dictionary but according to Christian standars, it definitely is not....

[NASYO]

INC = christian
ADD = christian
baptist = christian
SDA = christian

pareho ra man ni cla christians, ngano mag-away pa man jud?

kasabot mo sa tuyo sa Gino-o ngano naa mo diri sa kalibutan?

Kalinaw, panaghinigugma-ay, panaghi-usa..

mao nga paminaw jud mo ug "imagine"

[arubinkun]

Quote: Originally Posted by NASYO INC = christian ADD = christian baptist = christian SDA = christian pareho ra man ni cla christians, ngano mag-away pa man jud? kasabot mo sa tuyo sa Gino-o ngano naa mo diri sa kalibutan? Kalinaw, panaghinigugma-ay, panaghi-usa.. mao nga paminaw jud mo ug "imagine"

i don't think "away" is the proper word to use bro... maybe nagkasumpaki lang sila sa ila focuses sa ministry pero kung imo na sila pangutan-on kung unsa man jud basihan sa ila kasalbaran, usa ra jud na ila tubag, Jesus Christ... the rest though, diha na sila dili magkasinabtanay...

"imagine" is not something that you should be focusing on bro, kay first and foremost, John Lennon renounced being a Christian, Catholic for that matter and made his own religion together with his wife which focused on selfishness, think only of yourself, nothing else... selfisheness and no direction... that's basically what hippies were on their time...

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Quote: Originally Posted by NASYO INC = christian ADD = christian baptist = christian SDA = christian pareho ra man ni cla christians, ngano mag-away pa man jud? kasabot mo sa tuyo sa Gino-o ngano naa mo diri sa kalibutan? Kalinaw, panaghinigugma-ay, panaghi-usa.. mao nga paminaw jud mo ug "imagine"

Naa man sab gani walay simba-simba ug walay alamang sa Ginu-o but kung pangutanun Christian lang ghapon. None-practicing lang. Sayun ra ideclare kung unsa ka, but your fruit will justify your words.

OT: Negosyo na ta.

[NASYO]

sakto ka sir,

naay duha (2) ka klase nga tawo sa usa ka relihiyon.

1. nagpaka aron ingnon
2. makasasala

[NASYO]

Quote: Originally Posted by arubinkun i don't think "away" is the proper word to use bro... maybe nagkasumpaki lang sila sa ila focuses sa ministry pero kung imo na sila pangutan-on kung unsa man jud basihan sa ila kasalbaran, usa ra jud na ila tubag, Jesus Christ... the rest though, diha na sila dili magkasinabtanay... "imagine" is not something that you should be focusing on bro, kay first and foremost, John Lennon renounced being a Christian, Catholic for that matter and made his own religion together with his wife which focused on selfishness, think only of yourself, nothing else... selfisheness and no direction... that's basically what hippies were on their time...

I believed that they were doing "selflessness"

try to check it out