Kinsay motoo na ang Ginoo tulo-usa?

[oTnur]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor God does not need our relationship with Him. If He wanted to have relationship with us, He would have made our senses powerful enough to see Him or hear Him or feel Him.

This is an example of Faithless thoughts. And maybe you think that way becoz you are reflecting if you were a God.

"God's way are not our way"

Peace!

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by necrotic freak right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding.

I do not limit my understanding with anything. Period.
I open my mind to the universe.

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by oTnur This is an example of Faithless thoughts. And maybe you think that way becoz you are reflecting if you were a God. "God's way are not our way" Peace!

No, but it is not normal for someone(like God) to have relationship with His creation(man).
Pareha ra ni Bill Gates nga makig-relationship sa iyang computer(or computer programs).
Di ba awkward o lain paminawon?

But if you really feel you have a relationship with your God, go ahead.
Dili na lang ko makikisawsaw. Iyo na ang iyong God.
I have my own God anyway, which is by far, different from your God.

[necrotic freak]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor I do not limit my understanding with anything. Period. I open my mind to the universe.

did i say you limit your understanding with anything? in fact i stated, you exceeded on your human understanding, coz you dont have limit on it. but unfortunately you limit your understanding on God who created you and the universe that you open your mind with.

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by necrotic freak did i say you limit your understanding with anything? in fact i stated, you exceeded on your human understanding, coz you dont have limit on it. but unfortunately you limit your understanding on God who created you and the universe that you open your mind with.

Yes you did!

Originally Posted by necrotic freak :
right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding.

Unsa man diay na?

[necrotic freak]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor Yes you did! Originally Posted by necrotic freak : right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding. Unsa man diay na?

akong pasabot ana kay ang imong gi limit ang understanding ra sa Ginoo, ug wala na kay limit sa uban pang tawhanong panghuna2x.. sa sa imong gi ingon tibuok universe. syraro bro binisaya na jud na..hehehe

ayaw parihasa ang Ginoo sa tao.

[oTnur]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soul Doctor No, but it is not normal for someone(like God) to have relationship with His creation(man). Pareha ra ni Bill Gates nga makig-relationship sa iyang computer(or computer programs). Di ba awkward o lain paminawon? But if you really feel you have a relationship with your God, go ahead. Dili na lang ko makikisawsaw. Iyo na ang iyong God. I have my own God anyway, which is by far, different from your God.

You have your own God?
When we say we believed God- our faith must Love and Humble not that like yours.
Faith in God cannot be slave in human intelligence. Love God in a good reason, of course humility has a big part of it.

And please be mindful of your logic Bill Gates compare to The most High. As thge Bible says: God's way is not our way.

[Puritan]

Quote: Originally Posted by SQUiDnine mutu-o diay ka'g Trinity boss Puritan?

yes sir motoo ko.

[Puritan]

According to rcruman that the doctrine of trinity is unbiblical.

Let us examine the bible...

# "Then God said, �Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth,� (Gen. 1:26, NASB).

# "Then the Lord God said, �Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever," (Gen. 3:22, NASB).



When God created the first human He said; "Let US make man in our own image".


Now, some would suggest that the word US refers to angels but nowhere can we find in the Holy Book that angels created anything. Angels have no part in any creation. Here is a verse...Isaiah 44:24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, �I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth all alone."

God made all things alone. Therefore, the "us" in "Let Us make man in our image" cannot be the angels. Furthermore, people are not created in the image of angels, but of God.


rcruman...let me ask you this question---kinsa man na ang US diha sa bersikulo? kinsa man na sila nga gi ka istorya sa Ginoo?

[necrotic freak]

OT: basin apil na diha sa US si Eliboy..

[baliguat]

Quote: Originally Posted by oTnur You have your own God? When we say we believed God- our faith must Love and Humble not that like yours. Faith in God cannot be slave in human intelligence. Love God in a good reason, of course humility has a big part of it. And please be mindful of your logic Bill Gates compare to The most High. As thge Bible says: God's way is not our way.

Sir oTnur, i really love your posts!

[pal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Puritan According to rcruman that the doctrine of trinity is unbiblical. Let us examine the bible... # "Then God said, �Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth,� (Gen. 1:26, NASB). # "Then the Lord God said, �Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever," (Gen. 3:22, NASB). When God created the first human He said; "Let US make man in our own image". Now, some would suggest that the word US refers to angels but nowhere can we find in the Holy Book that angels created anything. Angels have no part in any creation. Here is a verse...Isaiah 44:24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, �I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth all alone." God made all things alone. Therefore, the "us" in "Let Us make man in our image" cannot be the angels. Furthermore, people are not created in the image of angels, but of God. rcruman...let me ask you this question---kinsa man na ang US diha sa bersikulo? kinsa man na sila nga gi ka istorya sa Ginoo?

Salamat kaayo sa pagtubag bro. I go fellowship with people that believe in trinity. Pero i must admit nga naglibog ko ana nga part for i consider the ADD's point on that. Hangtod karon naglibog gihapon ko ana. According to the ADDs God the Father and Jesus are both Gods. But they have not equal authority. Which i found it supported by this verse:
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour no one has knowledge, not even the angels in heaven, or the Son, but the Father only.

i once aked rcruman on how we should pray. Ingon xa, "Pray to the Father through the name of His Son Jesus Christ.". Just the same with others who believe in trinity. So it came in my mind that God don't want us to dig dipper for that matter. Since the word trinity is not written in the bible. Thus, believing, or Not, won't affect your relationship with God.

Your rebukes will be highly appreciated. Thanks

[Soul Doctor]

Quote: Originally Posted by oTnur You have your own God? When we say we believed God- our faith must Love and Humble not that like yours. Faith in God cannot be slave in human intelligence. Love God in a good reason, of course humility has a big part of it. And please be mindful of your logic Bill Gates compare to The most High. As thge Bible says: God's way is not our way.

I was surprised you placed Faith and human inteligence all in one sentence.
Amazing!

Bill Gates was just an example.
Relax! You don't have to be so touchy over it.

[rcruman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Puritan According to rcruman that the doctrine of trinity is unbiblical. Let us examine the bible... # "Then God said, �Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth,� (Gen. 1:26, NASB). # "Then the Lord God said, �Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever," (Gen. 3:22, NASB). When God created the first human He said; "Let US make man in our own image". Now, some would suggest that the word US refers to angels but nowhere can we find in the Holy Book that angels created anything. Angels have no part in any creation. Here is a verse...Isaiah 44:24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, �I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth all alone." God made all things alone. Therefore, the "us" in "Let Us make man in our image" cannot be the angels. Furthermore, people are not created in the image of angels, but of God. rcruman...let me ask you this question---kinsa man na ang US diha sa bersikulo? kinsa man na sila nga gi ka istorya sa Ginoo?

nice question, and let us allow bible to answer.

it follows that when GOD/ELOHIM said LET US MAKE MAN ACCORDING TO OUR IMAGE AND LIKENESS it follows that they(GOD/ELOHIM) have the same IMAGE and LIKENESS, and that PERSON is:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:4

and before the earth was made Christ was with GOD:

22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:22-31

and Jesus Christ said:

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:9-12


Peace!

[rcruman]

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