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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    kana cguro gyud ng daghan bro, pero kun gusto ta ug tarung nga balaud dapat kabalod sa ta mosunod. kun dili ta motuman kabalo na ta unsay mahitabo. nganong adto man ta sa illegal nga naa may legal nga paagi. para ra ni nako ha.
    agree mao na dha dili lalim ang TNT oi

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEMONOCIETY View Post
    agree mao na dha dili lalim ang TNT oi
    Ako maluoy gyud ko ana nila bro kay di malalim pagbuhi sa pamilya, ang uban mangawat nalang gani.

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    why meddle about US politics when dili mn gani ta kasulbad sa atong kaugalingon dre?
    let america decide which among the candidates would they pick.

    kalingaw, mura man nig manghimantay kas unsay kuri2 sa imong silingan when ikaw mismo naa puy kaugalingong problema sa balay nga dpat atimanon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Ako maluoy gyud ko ana nila bro kay di malalim pagbuhi sa pamilya, ang uban mangawat nalang gani.
    aw kung nag tinarong sila sa ilang pag TNT para lang sa pamilya looy pud oi kung hunahunaon kung unsay possibleng mahimong trabaho nimo as TNT d baya ta kakuhag ug taas2x na position naa ra jud nas mga ubos jud like mag janitor, apple picker etc. unya mosideline pa jud ky imo bayang expenses is US$ pud kayod jud silag insakto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibra'al View Post
    why meddle about US politics when dili mn gani ta kasulbad sa atong kaugalingon dre?
    let america decide which among the candidates would they pick.

    kalingaw, mura man nig manghimantay kas unsay kuri2 sa imong silingan when ikaw mismo naa puy kaugalingong problema sa balay nga dpat atimanon.
    D unta maayo unya right now we are still in the middle of the tension because of the disputed island kung wa ty ally unsaon man nato ng intsik? pagsagdan na lang sa ilang landgrabbing issues? we know that we are not fully advance sa atong military yet

    ako I don't really expect a big help from US, wala nako mag expect na mag send pa silag troops to depend our nation, ang ako lang na makakita ko na mostep forward ang atong military with advancement ky wa baya kaayo tay naval defenses mao ra tong gregorio del pilar na warship? ky kung wa ng americano naa ba kaha ty gregorio del pilar warship ron? mao na mura maapektaran ghapon ta kung ang new pres. sa US molingi ba sa ilang ally? lipay nako basta pang ammo backup lang sila.

    wa gani ta kahibaw talikdan ra ta aning donald trump when he become pres. looy jud kaayo ta naa baya to cya gisulti na d na cya makialam sa hitabo crimea bec. it's part of european samot na siguro atong problema hehehehe

    aron d ma OT

    looy jud kaayo ta it seems dili jud ni friendly c trumps sa asia

    source: https://screen.yahoo.com/donald-trum...132006607.html
    Last edited by DEMONOCIETY; 08-29-2015 at 12:29 AM.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Unya unsa man gyud imong masulti sa illegal immigrants?
    As an open-minded person I support the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act(Definitely recommend you reading this) and i personally think it's the only good alternative because mass deportation simply won't work, just a waste of money.

    As you know each year, approximately 65,000 undocumented students graduate from high school, many at the top of their classes, but cannot go to college, join the military, work, or otherwise pursue their dreams simply because they have no legal status(these are the good people). Many of whom were brought into to the country at a very young age deporting these hardworking students, seems unfair. They practically lived here in the US for many years ever since they were minors, have adapted the American culture and have friends who are Americans, too, they pretty much are Americans considering they spent their lives there. Deporting them will only burden the students with culture shock it's harsh and unjust. I won't expand this reply more but just give you some couple links that you would definitely like to read for you getting interested in what the DREAM Act offers.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010...need-dream-act
    5 Reasons to Support the DREAM Act - America's Voice

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    Quote Originally Posted by deity View Post
    As an open-minded person I support the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act(Definitely recommend you reading this) and i personally think it's the only good alternative because mass deportation simply won't work, just a waste of money.

    As you know each year, approximately 65,000 undocumented students graduate from high school, many at the top of their classes, but cannot go to college, join the military, work, or otherwise pursue their dreams simply because they have no legal status(these are the good people). Many of whom were brought into to the country at a very young age deporting these hardworking students, seems unfair. They practically lived here in the US for many years ever since they were minors, have adapted the American culture and have friends who are Americans, too, they pretty much are Americans considering they spent their lives there. Deporting them will only burden the students with culture shock it's harsh and unjust. I won't expand this reply more but just give you some couple links that you would definitely like to read for you getting interested in what the DREAM Act offers.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010...need-dream-act
    5 Reasons to Support the DREAM Act - America's Voice
    Boss depende sad cguro na sa sitwasyon...

    Lisod man sad mo tabok lang ka sa border para ma US citizen imong anak. Hinuon kasabot ra ko ani mabuhat ni s taw tungod sa kalisod. Pero naa may balaud gud,.

    ask lang ko, makaiskoyla diay ang mga walay document nga taw sa US?
    Last edited by Crinkles11; 08-29-2015 at 05:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibra'al View Post
    why meddle about US politics when dili mn gani ta kasulbad sa atong kaugalingon dre?
    let america decide which among the candidates would they pick.

    kalingaw, mura man nig manghimantay kas unsay kuri2 sa imong silingan when ikaw mismo naa puy kaugalingong problema sa balay nga dpat atimanon.
    We have the right to meddle, because we pay American taxes. We need to know which leader will lead this country in the next 8 years without screwing it up. The future of the Philippines also depends on what will happen to our big brother in the next decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deity View Post
    Why is poverty and unemployment so bad in the U.S? Illegal immigrants aren't the biggest problem(as most illegal immigrants are paid in very very low wage). You know what the real problem is? The richest 400 Americans own more than $2.3 trillion in wealth. More than the bottom 150 million Americans combined. Think about how that affects poverty and unemployment. Even Warren Buffet has pointed out the infairness of the fact that he, a multi-billionaire, pays lower effective tax rate than his secretary. In my past reply one of the videos, Sanders mentioned about views on taxing the very rich.
    This is the second time I'm educating you about the current stumbling block of America which is Illegal immigration. Please don't be delusional. Illegal immigration is the top 3 most important topic in American politics. It's either you're not watching any news or you're in your basement too long reading Marxist books.


    Quote Originally Posted by deity View Post
    That's not the point he's trying to make. Remember the Iraq war during Bush's presidency?(Sanders voted against this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdFw1btbkLM) The decision for military action had nothing to do with 9/11.

    This is the problem with Democrats, whenever foreign policy is mentioned, we go to the Iraq war. Then add some conspiracy theories about oil, the Iraqi gold, Bush and bin Laden and the CIA. Can't you guys get over it?

    Quote Originally Posted by deity View Post
    Iraq war is the most sick and stupid thing U.S during Bush's presidency has ever done, how many people died? Sad. Too bad people are deluded with the politicians who control media giving false information and hiding the truth.

    Yeah, and how many thousands more innocent Kurds and Iraqis will die with Saddam's regime. Saddam Hussein was killing oppositions, kurdish children/women by thousands every week. That was a genocide back then. The Iraqi war removed a brutal regime. Bushs' plan was to stabilize the region, station some few troops for another 10 years to remove insurgency, Obama destroyed this plan by removing all US forces, then ISIS was born. Now you wackos blame Bush.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by deity View Post
    That's why he believes in Political Revolution. Bernie Sanders has better views with Immigration if you look it up. You need to understand that Donald Trump is dangerous and his views on immigration are very unlikely to work. Mass deportation won't work and impractical, Adolf Hitler tried this it didn't work - death camps used as an alternative for the jews instead. What else would Donald Trump do? Build a wall like berlin? Let's just call it the South Berlin Wall(Taking inspiration from the Berlin Wall name) as most illegal immigrants in U.S are from Mexico and Mexico is in the bottom part from the U.S, The U.S 1,989 miles of border with Mexico. The 1900 miles long South Berlin Wall will cost billions and decades to finish(The Berlin wall in Germany is way shorter and took decades). Once the South Berlin Wall is finished, need to work on a Wall across the Vast Pacific and Atlantic oceans. Otherwise, the South Berlin wall will not work - just a complete waste of time and money. Donald Trump can't stop illegal immigration. There are better alternatives than his unlikely-to-work views.
    Please don't make crude and outlandish comparisons. It doesn't make sense and it doesn't help with the discussion. Trump's plan is to deport undocumented illegals to provide better jobs for LEGAL immigrants and US citizens, and also avoid taxpayers paying welfare for these illegals. Hitler's plan wasn't deporting Jews, we was killing them in millions. It was ethnic cleansing. That's the dumbest comparison I've read on this forum.

    Millions of Illegal immigrants from the southern border take up jobs which our college students need for tuition fee. A fraction of them smuggle drugs, Mexican Cartels profit from this route. They cannot speak English, and they take up welfare and foodstamps which American taxpayers shoulder the costs. This needs to stop, and one option is to create a wall which Trump will pressure Mexico to pay some percentage or else suffer trade sanctions.

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