Cebu Bus Rapid Transit system (Cebu BRT) promises a mass transportation that works

[digitalsuperman]

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haha good luck.. uli nalang guro ta ug probinsya kay way trafik ngadto..

ganahan ra unta ko palapdan ang franchise sa SM MyBus.ok na kaayo na para nako. then gamiton tanan kwarta palapad sa dalan. kaya ra gyud kaayo na. tanan dalan sa cebu malapdan. idivert lang sa road widening ang funds. kay i think ang problema sa trapik dili raman ang volume sa sakyanan, ang kagamay man sa dalan.mao mana main problem. then while mag widen sila sa roads, they can consider the BRT. ok ra kaayo ko anang MyBus mintras tanto.

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Nahala i-uli nanang gi advance nga budget tomas!

impossible.si tomas? ahaha

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Wenceslao: Two vs. LRT

BONG WENCESLAO
10 hours ago



THE mass transport system pitching game has taken another turn with the recent offensive by Philtram Transportation Consortium Corp., which is proposing a monorail transit (MRT) system for Cebu, When you make yourself look good you, unintentionally perhaps, make others look bad or, at the very least, less deserving, It seems to me like the MRT system’s main competition is the light rail transit (LRT) system. So there.

Philtram chief technology architect Jose Guardo pitched the MRT for Cebu. In the process, he zeroed in on the negative aspects of the LRT system that incorporates a subway in its design. The current champion of the LRT system is Presidential Assistant for the Visayas Michael Dino. The other pitched mass transport system, the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) is being pushed by Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña.

“A subway will jack up the fare by five to 10 folds. Many people cannot afford this on a regular basis, especially students. We will make sure we use a system such as monorail that is perfect for Cebu and tourism, Guardo said in a press statement over the weekend.

I tend to go with Guardo on this one taking the angle of size. The LRT runs on two rails while the MRT only uses one. That is why some experts do not actually see the LRT as a competition to the BRT, which is proposed only for Cebu City for now, because the LRT should be for long distances, like from Carcar City in the south to Danao City in the north. The BRT and, yes, the MRT, can take care of the shorter distances.

I read the Philtram press statement and it seemed to make sure it would not say anything bad about the BRT, a system that do not have a use for rails and has buses that runs on dedicated road lanes instead. And-surprise, surprise

Philtram even wants to field electric buses for the BRT and build charging ports not only for electric buses but also for electric cars and jeepneys.

But before we go into that, let us first tarry on the MRT-LRT divide. I mean, let us hear more from Guardo, who said that a feasibility study conducted by the private firm Systra Philippines did see the difficulty of building an LRT system in cities outside of Metro Manila. These cities supposedly can neither afford the LRT nor

the subway. The other supposed advantages of the MRT over the LRT:

--A monorail will take only two years to construct. LRT needs at least four years and a subway, six years,” Guardo said. “If we want to end immediately the suffering of the commuters, monorail is the perfect technology for Metro Cebu because we can implement it within President Duterte’s term.”

--MRT’s waiting time is lesser for the MRT than the LRT, added Guardo, since he he said the LRT, being bigger, has a turning radius of 200 meters. The MRT’s turning radius is only 46 meters.

What should be a downer for the MRT is that Philtram has still to submit its unsolicited proposal to the Department of Transportation (DOTr) whose chief, Arthur Tugade, seems to be leaning more to the LRT than the BRT. Will that leaning change when Philtram presents its MRT proposal? And how fast will it move through the bureaucracy? Let us see.



Wenceslao: Two vs. LRT - SUNSTAR NEWSPAPER

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laaya.. dugaya naman diay ni gi drawing..

[ryan22]

ganahan ra unta ko palapdan ang franchise sa SM MyBus.ok na kaayo na para nako. then gamiton tanan kwarta palapad sa dalan. kaya ra gyud kaayo na. tanan dalan sa cebu malapdan. idivert lang sa road widening ang funds. kay i think ang problema sa trapik dili raman ang volume sa sakyanan, ang kagamay man sa dalan.mao mana main problem. then while mag widen sila sa roads, they can consider the BRT. ok ra kaayo ko anang MyBus mintras tanto.

and keyword ani bai is IDEALLY....

unfortunately in the real world scenario, that's not what's going on in Cebu or the entire country... walay continuity ang mga projects, walay master plan sa design in major cities that's why we're in this mess... projects are more of BRAGGING rights sa mga politiko to be used for the next coming elections... SUBDIVISIONS are built left & right (instead of high rise to maximize space), MALLS are still built even with the worsening traffic.. no parking areas for cars... and so on and so forth...

so my question is if ma cancel ang BRT.... so what now? what short term solution will we Cebuanos have? (for the sake of argument lang, kay sa tinuoray our opinions doesn't matter coz we're not the SHOT CALLERS ), flyovers/underpass constructions are even behind schedule... we cant bike, escooter, electronic skateboards going to/from work kay walay tarong sidewalks/park connectors.... so agwanta sa ta?

[digitalsuperman]

and keyword ani bai is IDEALLY....

unfortunately in the real world scenario, that's not what's going on in Cebu or the entire country... walay continuity ang mga projects, walay master plan sa design in major cities that's why we're in this mess... projects are more of BRAGGING rights sa mga politiko to be used for the next coming elections... SUBDIVISIONS are built left & right (instead of high rise to maximize space), MALLS are still built even with the worsening traffic.. no parking areas for cars... and so on and so forth...

under sa PPP boss naa raman continuity. daghan man projects ni PNOY nga na continue ni duterte.except sa BRT kay during that time medyo na complicated kay wala gipirmahan ni PNOY ang loan so wala na allocate-tan ug budget so since naay transition to next admin, napasa ang responsibility. pero majority sa mga na approve nga projects under PPP kay wala raman issue.

so my question is if ma cancel ang BRT.... so what now? what short term solution will we Cebuanos have? (for the sake of argument lang, kay sa tinuoray our opinions doesn't matter coz we're not the SHOT CALLERS ), flyovers/underpass constructions are even behind schedule... we cant bike, escooter, electronic skateboards going to/from work kay walay tarong sidewalks/park connectors.... so agwanta sa ta?

mao na boss. if mawala ang BRT wala.nganga ang mga taga cebu.hostage pirmi sa jeep. way alternative. although if mawala ang BRT pwede nila expand ang franchise sa MyBus.

[cryptobeestar]

Kapoiya ug huwat oi.. asa naman ni? BRT or Monorail asa na?

[amingb]

Unsa man jud ning BRT naay Road Widening sa mga Route or Wala ? kinsay makatubag ana kay way klaro na diha dapita ... ug wala gani ayaw nalang na ipadayon ga samok2x lang na ...

Maau pa Flyovers ug Subway diha sa mga Crossroads makatabang pa sa traffic ...

[f3a_champ]

Unsa man jud ning BRT naay Road Widening sa mga Route or Wala ? kinsay makatubag ana kay way klaro na diha dapita ... ug wala gani ayaw nalang na ipadayon ga samok2x lang na ...

Maau pa Flyovers ug Subway diha sa mga Crossroads makatabang pa sa traffic ...

I can say with 100% certainty nga ang BRT as planned for implementation DOES NOT include any road widening in the route at all. Mao na nga daghan mo supak ini. Some people have been trying to mislead us into assuming that there is road widening. But no one has categorically stated that roads will be widened. They will either change topic or allude to it without actually saying it.

[ryan22]

instead of demanding for road widening, should we demand for "sidewalk widening"?

the cons of road widening is it will encourage people to buy more cars which is opposite of BRT - to encourage less cars on the road...... and to complement the BRT will encourage Cebuanos to walk, run, jog, bike, skate, ride escooter, and eletronic bikes & etc on the sidewalk.. healthy pa

kanindot kaha kung dako2x ang sidwalk sa Sugbo

[Jantehshiznit]

Way ni supak anang BRT if tarongon ang pag implement ug pag plano. unsa manang e implement ni Tomas mura manag BRT Lite. Kana inyong g ingon na hybrid bus pila ray capacity ana, if mo dagan pana sa mga dan na mo sagol sa traffic sa private vehicles. unsaon nalang. Imagina kono na ninyo mga Tomas fans.

e google nalang palihug BRT Delhi mao nay resulta. Ayaw mo cgeg damgo na inyong BRT hapsay kay kung hapsay pa sa plano. wa nay ni babag ana. hahaha

Ang isa ka problema, ang feasibility study ana outdated na, supposed to be nag dagan nana pag 2016 pa pero hantod ron wa pa. Pila na ka sakyanan naa sa Cebu ron, pila ang nadungag taga adlaw, pila na ka tao nag puyo sa Cebu.