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Old 11-04-2009, 01:47 PM
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most of it are automized as you may already know... but some jobs you deem boring are irreplaceable... take, farming for example...
Farming can be completely automated/robotized. It's not a question of how, it's a question of when.

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its too farfetched... plus, whos going to buy seeds to plow, sell produce in the market, negotiate with clients, supply the pesticides...? i dont see it happening even in the future...
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kuyaw kaayo ni mga auto makers diay na robot naman pasagaran nag assemble sa sakyanan. kini pud uban CEO sige discuss ug trabaho kalimtan ang paniudto ROBOT pud ni cla siguro
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its too farfetched... plus, whos going to buy seeds to plow, sell produce in the market, negotiate with clients, supply the pesticides...? i dont see it happening even in the future...
I was talking about farming as a mechanical process (i.e. replacement of the plough and the tractor, both tools, with even better tools), I was not talking about agribusiness. Mura hinoon ka'g 18th century man who is saying...

"it's too farfetched (to create a car using robotic machines)...plus, who's going to buy the metal to shape, sell the car in the market, negotiate with clients, supply the fuel...? i dont see it happening even in the future..."

...yet we do have the robotized assembly line for cars and other products nowadays. Get my point now?

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I was talking about farming as a mechanical process (i.e. replacement of the plough and the tractor, both tools, with even better tools), I was not talking about agribusiness. Mura hinoon ka'g 18th century man who is saying...

"it's too farfetched (to create a car using robotic machines)...plus, who's going to buy the metal to shape, sell the car in the market, negotiate with clients, supply the fuel...? i dont see it happening even in the future..."

...yet we do have the robotized assembly line for cars and other products nowadays. Get my point now?

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farming is everything... you cant take out repetitive tasks like that... we can safely say, theyre there to assist us not and not replace. get sad ka sa akong point? murag calculator bah, excel para sa teachers.
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farming is everything... you cant take out repetitive tasks like that... we can safely say, theyre there to assist us not and not replace. get sad ka sa akong point? murag calculator bah, excel para sa teachers.
Refer to my assembly line example.

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Refer to my assembly line example.

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not registering sorry... ang ako lang brother, we made the ATM to dispense cash but you cant take away the guy that puts money in it.
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not registering sorry... ang ako lang brother, we made the ATM to dispense cash but you cant take away the guy that puts money in it.
Again, did I ever argue about "removing a guy" in the process/loop? I already said nga the agribusiness part of the operation (which includes people, human beings like you and me) are left intact (unless artificial intelligence is developed to a high degree of course) and go about their usual business. The part that gets replaced is the tiresome and mundane act of the actual planting of seeds, the harvesting etc (which is in part, being done by machines in various parts around the world already), which was grovestreet's original point in the first place. Ikaw man gud bro, klaro kaayo nga "passionate" ka about the idea of non-replacement of humans, but you fail to see nga wala ma'y ga kontra nimo. Ang gina explain namo diri are TOOLs to remove the element of laborious work by substitution with the more capable "arms" and "legs" of robots, which is ALSO a tool.

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Again, did I ever argue about "removing a guy" in the process/loop? I already said nga the agribusiness part of the operation (which includes people, human beings like you and me) are left intact (unless artificial intelligence is developed to a high degree of course) and go about their usual business. The part that gets replaced is the tiresome and mundane act of the actual planting of seeds, the harvesting etc (which is in part, being done by machines in various parts around the world already), which was grovestreet's original point in the first place. Ikaw man gud bro, klaro kaayo nga "passionate" ka about the idea of non-replacement of humans, but you fail to see nga wala ma'y ga kontra nimo. Ang gina explain namo diri are TOOLs to remove the element of laborious work by substitution with the more capable "arms" and "legs" of robots, which is ALSO a tool.

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this is one flaw of free market capitalism, technological unemployment. If people will be continuously displaced by machines, how will people be able to support themselves if they don't have jobs? --bantog ra.

one-track mind sad gud ning tawhana... if we have the assistance of robots, then it would not be boring anymore at least not when its still new.
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I think Japan leads the world in robotics for commercial applications. Best school? Like one poster said, probably MIT.

As for the question of robots replacing human work, it's only a matter of time. The technology shouldn't be far off (but thanks to today's political climate...) There are however some things that will be hard to replace. One contested area is aviation. Pilots are of a different breed lol and their instincts and reflexes are pretty unique. Although you might take it with a grain of salt, instinct and intuition are pretty hard to understand and emulate.
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its too farfetched... plus, whos going to buy seeds to plow, sell produce in the market, negotiate with clients, supply the pesticides...? i dont see it happening even in the future...
that's an opinion of course.

"And the Wright Brothers were bicycle mechanics. The experts used to write books and articles on why man can't fly. Apparently, the Wright Brothers never read those books."
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get my drift?
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that's an opinion of course.

"And the Wright Brothers were bicycle mechanics. The experts used to write books and articles on why man can't fly. Apparently, the Wright Brothers never read those books."
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get my drift?
your question was --would it replace us?... who are you replacing? the bird?
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naay robotic pimps?
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kaning pag use of robotics in the future ie sa farming is just the first step in replacing human labor and ultimately humans. kng automized na tanan ma preho ta sa movie Wall-E nga tanan mga tao ky tambok na kau since all the work are done by robots. btw all jobs are repetitive/routine.

inevitable man ang robotics ky cge advance ang technology. ang pangutana kng mag ka co-exist ba ta nila once AI will be perfected. ang view raba ni Hawking ky humans will be replaced by "robots" just like we replaced the dinosaurs. although possible because sila ra ang maka survive sa interstellar travel but i find it pessimistic. magpalupig ba gud ang humans?

"..unless we blow ourselves up." -Hawking
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ROPID the adorable humanoid can jump 3-inches into the air, sweep you off your feet <-- i want this for christmas
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