What matters the most when hiring a programmer?

[dlanyer77]

Quote: Originally Posted by javapenguin butang nato ug wala ka graduate, peru naa mga certificate sa microsoft,oracle,sun,cisco, blah blah blah ug unsa pa nga mga certificate diha... unsa man inyo ma comment?

well, it remain irrelevant if a person who holds that certification had stop practicing it 3 years ago. his/her sharpness may not be the same at this time but he/she still had the advantage over the most documented and less talented applicant.

[bigeasy]

Quote: Originally Posted by javapenguin butang nato ug wala ka graduate, peru naa mga certificate sa microsoft,oracle,sun,cisco, blah blah blah ug unsa pa nga mga certificate diha... unsa man inyo ma comment?

I only used certifications as a tie-breaker between two very equal candidates. Otherwise, i never gave certifications much weight.

[bigeasy]

Quote: Originally Posted by simoncpu I think this is a solution to our problems. If you have 5000 applicants but you only need 20 programmers, just select all female applicants and your problems are solved! Hehehe... [ simon.cpu ]

I like this idea.

[javapenguin]

Are software companies hiring the jack of all trade kind or the specialist kind?

[MarkCuering]

Quote: Originally Posted by javapenguin Are software companies hiring the jack of all trade kind or the specialist kind?

both... ? a someone who is jack of all trade and master of all? wag lang yung master of none. hehehehe...actually they hire someone who have long years of experience who worked before, similar to the product they are working currently. no unless cguro kung magpatraining sila.

[Ryan747]

I'll look for skills.

[manick]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ryan747 I'll look for skills.

how about attitude?

[MarkCuering]

Quote: Originally Posted by manick how about attitude?

well...it can be determine in the job. not in the hiring process I guess.
but so far, programmers are bundle with patience, team player and determination.

[javapenguin]

For me I go for the specialist who can give results and with good attitude of course.

[branluther]

Quote: Originally Posted by javapenguin butang nato ug wala ka graduate, peru naa mga certificate sa microsoft,oracle,sun,cisco, blah blah blah ug unsa pa nga mga certificate diha... unsa man inyo ma comment?

i will hire that person bahalag wala ka graduate

[branluther]

In all types of job, ATTITUDE matters the most. Skills can be learned. I hire people who are trainable and have good attitude. I don't hire people who are programming experts but with undesirable attitude.

[branluther]

Quote: Originally Posted by cloud experience is the best teacher. not all programming languages are taught @ school. what you are studying today might be already obsolete when you graduate, that is the downside of IT.

I agree. Grabe ka paspas ang world of IT. Sauna, maayo kaayo kog turbo pascal ang cobol. Karon asa na man ni nga mga languages Kinahanglang sa sad ko mo learn ug bag-o....

[MarkCuering]

Quote: Originally Posted by branluther I agree. Grabe ka paspas ang world of IT. Sauna, maayo kaayo kog turbo pascal ang cobol. Karon asa na man ni nga mga languages Kinahanglang sa sad ko mo learn ug bag-o....

Python bai ^^

[javapenguin]

Quote: Originally Posted by branluther In all types of job, ATTITUDE matters the most. Skills can be learned. I hire people who are trainable and have good attitude. I don't hire people who are programming experts but with undesirable attitude.

I agree skills can be learned but what if a person has good attitude but unfortunately a slow learner?

[majer]

Quote: Originally Posted by javapenguin I agree skills can be learned but what if a person has good attitude but unfortunately a slow learner?

ma taktak sa trabaho ug naa mas maayo kay survival of the fittest.