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Old 04-30-2008, 04:58 AM
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Default 5 IT skills that won't boost your salary

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Technology advances force companies to evolve as certain areas of expertise wane in importance

(1) Plain old HTML
As companies embrace Web 2.0 technologies such AJAX, demand for skills in HTML programming are taking a backseat. According to Foote Partners, pay for skills in technologies such as AKAX and XML increased by 12.5 percent ... while IT industries managers say they don't see a demand for technology predecessors such as HTML.

(2) Legacy programming languages
Skills in programming languages such as Cobol, Fortran, PowerBuilder, and more don't rate like they once did.

"Certainly the Cobol people that had a resurgence with the Y2K bug aren't in demand ... but Certain other applications such as Delphi and PowerBuilder, [which were] very big in the '90s, are no longer in demand."

IT work-force and compensation research conducted by Foote Partners revealed that Cobol, PowerBuilder and Jini noncertified skills were among the lowest-paying skills in the second half of 2007. Research shows not that such skills aren't in use today but that companies aren't willing to pay for them.

(3) NetWare
OS know-how continues to be in top demand among hiring managers, but expertise in Novell's network operating system NetWare isn't keeping up with other technologies in the same area. "Networking software such as NetWare isn't near what it was in the '90s ... Windows Server and Linux skills have replaced, or are replacing, NetWare skills" in terms of demand.

(4) Non-IP network
IP and Internet skills usurped non-IP network expertise and know-how in technologies such as IBM's System Network Architecture (SNA) continue to rank among the lowest-paying skills. "For networking, IP skills have replaced SNA skills ... SNA skills accounted for just 2 percent of base pay in the fourth quarter of 2007, while security skills made up 17 percent of base pay ... Mainframe computing skills, including network components such as SNA, are no longer required in a server-based IP networking environment ".

(5) PC tech support
The Computer Technology Trade Association (CompTIA) reports that hardware skills and knowledge, including expertise with printers and PCs, are on the decline in terms of demand. CompTIA surveyed 3,578 IT hiring managers to learn which skills would grow in importance over time and the industry organization found: "The skill area expected to decline the most in importance is hardware."

Research separately showed an 11.1 percent decline in pay over the last six months of 2007 for ITIL skills, which are often put in place to streamline IT service management and help desk efforts, "The 'move, add, and changes' PC tech function isn't quite what is used to be".
tinuod gyud diay ang panultihon nga basta magkawala ang systems o program ... magkalisud sab ang chances nga makakita ug laing kabalhinan. pero tinuod gyud sab nga kun magkawala na ang systems ... magkamahal sab ang sweldo kay wa na man lain makabalo pa sa existing nga system o programs .

kana lagi kun maswertehan sab kay swerte2x man lagi kaha ning pad sa tawo .

besides, usually pud sa akong nabantayan sa mga industries ilabi na kadtu mga karaan2x na ang mga empleyado nga di gusto bag-uhon ang systems o programs kay kapoy na magtuon balik ug bag-ong application .

so sharing2x lang gud pud ni ako :mrgreen:
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 5 IT skills that won't boost your salary

Here's my view...

I beg to disagree sa #2. hehehe
Labi na sa Cobol.
Maybe sa front-end wla na ni ginagamit.
Pero kung back-end ang istoryahan it's still alive and kicking.
Money banking systems are using Cobol.
In fact sa gawas naa mn gani mang hire ug Cobol programmers.


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Here's my view...

I beg to disagree sa #2. hehehe
Labi na sa Cobol.
Maybe sa front-end wla na ni ginagamit.
Pero kung back-end ang istoryahan it's still alive and kicking.
Money banking systems are using Cobol.
In fact sa gawas naa mn gani mang hire ug Cobol programmers.
COBOL programmers are still in demand in singapore mostly bank firms
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COBOL programmers are still in demand in singapore mostly bank firms
very true..
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it maybe because should I say "old bank" don't want to change the existing system which was developed using COBOL thus COBOL programming is still in demand, just my opinion though.
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Hi, that that is the main fact now, anyway i you can see it on my post here

http://webtutorialtool.blogspot.com/...ur-salary.html


considering that you will see what is the opposite which is the most demand high jobs now mostly in US

http://webtutorialtool.blogspot.com/...jobs-2008.html
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i cant agree with all of it
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Almost all of my officemates who are powerbuilder programmers are now in Singapore. Two of them left the country just this year. Powerbuilder programmers are still in demand.
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up for this post and thanks..
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world bank eh naka "Cobol" pa. malabong mawala ang Cobol at alam ng nakararami na pag magaling ka sa Cobol eh assured na future mo dahil ikaw na papalit sa mga ancient programmers na may edad 50. Ikaw na ang kasunod nila.
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(1) Plain old HTML - still rocks...
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world bank eh naka "Cobol" pa. malabong mawala ang Cobol at alam ng nakararami na pag magaling ka sa Cobol eh assured na future mo dahil ikaw na papalit sa mga ancient programmers na may edad 50. Ikaw na ang kasunod nila.
Bahala ka sa buhay mo kung gusto mo mag Cobol. Kaya nga wala nang mga Cobol programmers kase patay na sila... nakakamatay kase sa boredom ang Cobol...

Peace pare... hehehehe...
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In demand? Hmmmmm... only some of the cobol/powerbuilder/legacy programmers were lucky and landed a good job until now but the question is that until when ... yes some of the old banks still uses these technologies but do you think they will use it forever? I guess it best to adopt something new ...

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In demand? Hmmmmm... only some of the cobol/powerbuilder/legacy programmers were lucky and landed a good job until now but the question is that until when ... yes some of the old banks still uses these technologies but do you think they will use it forever? I guess it best to adopt something new ...
yes i agree. It's in demand for those nga gagamit ana. pero have you think pila ra na sila kabuok? If you'll say there more than a million, it would only be around 2-3% of the total IT industry. which is still quite small. which means sooner or later it would disappear. It's just like your on an old house surrounded by new ones. sooner or later you would renovate yours.
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FYI, Powerbuilder 11 supports the .NET platform.
Try it before saying something "off" about it. It's a good rapid development tool for database applications. I even thought that Powerbuilder would not go past version 7.

Gamay ra gyud naggamit co'z it's an expensive software and not readily available. Dili parehas sa Microsoft products na bisan asa kilid-kilid makapalit ka. Naa pa jud express editions so anybody can learn them.

And I'm not saying this because I'm a die-hard Powerbuilder programmer. I'm not but I've tried it. I decided to stick with Microsoft since I'm already comfortable with its technologies and I don't develop database apps only. If I can get hold of PB 11, I might consider using it again for database apps.

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