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| Politics & Current Events :: about politics and what is happening around us :: |
| View Poll Results: Do you think former Pres. Erap Estrada is now fit and able to run this nation progressively? | |||
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#91
12-20-2005, 11:05 PM
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Arroyo's rich? Cong Dadong, GMAs fther Â*is known as the "poor boy from Lubao" Â*Iggy Arroyo is so financially unstble until the jose pidal issue went out. Grnting tht they are rich, does it mke them less corruptible? |
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#92
12-20-2005, 11:07 PM
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#96
12-20-2005, 11:34 PM
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Is it ok to discuss the case?
 Is it illegal ba to use an alias for your bank account? Dili man tingali kay kong illegal pa gikiha na sab onta si Iggy Arroyo. Napakita ba sa bank account Jose Velarde (Erap Estrada) nga didto jud gideposit ang plundered money? Dba supposedly that unopened envelope during the impeachment trial would show the details of the Jose Velarde account. I've read from the news nga ang sulod kono atong envelope kay immaterial jud kono, onya wala na man gani kono gigamit ron as ebidensiya. |
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#97
12-21-2005, 02:07 AM
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#98
12-21-2005, 03:17 AM
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There is an old saying: 'For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the steed was lost. For want of a steed, the message was not delivered. For want of message, the war was lost. |
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#99
12-21-2005, 07:18 AM
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kamo mga ERAP supporters ba, di na lang ta mag lalis beh.Â* Simple ra kaayo na, bisan di pa nato ipa-agi ug kongreso, senado, korte, sandigang bayan, PCGG, etc.
KLARO kaayo nga kawatan na si ERAP or to your satisfaction "mas kawatan", so unsa pa man?Â* Kinsa inyong gusto si FPJ unta (may he rest in peace) nga ang mga supporters mga Erap cronies gihapon or si Lacson (nga bossing ni satanas)?! ha?! Adto na lang ko ni GMA nga mas mubo pa ug sungay, ikog ug bangkil.Â* Ana ra na ka simple!!!Â* Mao na'y gi-ingon nga ayaw na lang ta ninyo, kay klaro pa mo sa pahak ni pugak! back to topic:Â* ERAP human rights victim?Â* How about kadtong mga wala naka balay? ultimo payatas housing project gi daginot nila. Ang mga mag-uuma nga wala maka yuta thru massive land-grabbing sa CARP-LRA?Â* ang SSS & GSIS blunder, Pag-Ibig racket (gi compulsory), ang pag siphon sa funds sa CAP, ang PSE insider trading, huge pyramiding operations during their time, massive drug proliferation, bigtime international gambling thru syndicate/triad stanley ho, Philippines being known as money laundering capuital of the world during their time, hold-up & kidnapping by Lacson for their funds, and the list goes on and on and on... Sa ilang corruption daghan gipang patay ug nangamatay tungod wala nila gihatag ang angay dawaton sa mga tawo.Â* in other countries, hagbay ra nang gi bitay si ERAP ug LACSON.Â* Duha ra ka klaseng tawo ang mo laban ani nila, ang inosente nga tanga or ang mga naka-kwarta ug apil or ang mga na-bulahan directly or indirectly, sa ilang mga kabuang.Â* SO KINSA MAN ANG HUMAN RIGHTS VICTIM RON? SI ERAP GIHAPON? Ambot na lang ninyo! ibutang nato nga nangurakot si GMA at least karon MAS naa ta'y nakita, nakuha-kuhaan to akong gipang enumerate ug ni minos pud ang kadtong mga naa pa.Â* Concrete example are huge hauls of drug busts and closing down of shabu labs ug mas daghan na neutralize nga kidnappers ug ni minus ang kidnapping karon nga wa gyud mahitabo sa ilang panahon nga "super cop" man kaha na si lacson.Â* Mao na LANG na atong ikapasalamat kay di man gyud mahitabo nga si San Pedro ang mo lingkod diha sa Malacañang para wala gyu'y kurakot. |
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#101
12-21-2005, 08:13 AM
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like sa kidnapping it was even reported b4 nga ni saka og maau ang kidnapping the last few months wala lang ko kahibaw if it was one of the highest numbers or onsa. And are this drug busts true? Or basin ni sunod lang sila sa style ni Lacson sa una bai as you claim? and as far as I can remember SSS/GSIS and CAP blunder happen during GMAs time... it was not during ERAPs time. but i'm not saying that ERAP is a victim of human rights. Gusto lang nako i-klaro ang uban nimong claims that GMAs presidency is way better than ERAP.
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#102
12-21-2005, 12:37 PM
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huh? highest? panahon ni GMA? i may not be able to support my claim but it is more than preposterous to say that mas taas karon and i won't even dare to support my claim kay taas ng istorya. i advise you take the taxi ask the driver or ask tinderas sa imong mga palitanan and make your own little survey, that's just ONE of the things I do to get a real part of the truth.
i believe you remembered wrong, SSS/GSIS happened during Erap's time.Â* the CAP blunder just backlashed recently pero gi suyop ang funds pag Erap time pa. di ko pareho ni GMA bai, pero kahibaw ko mo sakay sa panahon.Â* ang di kahibaw mo sakay sa panahon kung dili ma biyaan, mamatay or worst, both. |
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#104
12-21-2005, 03:19 PM
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JUst observed our economy. Just observed our unemployment and just observed the daily struggle of our people. Did they feel better today than Eraps days? I think not. In fact most people want Erap back. At least not in Cebu but in other places people are clamoring for the return of Erap. In Erap they found sincerity. In Erap they found respect for the rule of law. During Eraps time there was no cover up. There was no buying of witnesses. But today GMA has done everything just to survive even if she is fast losing her face to the people. Erap willingly faced the impeachment court. The same bravery was not found in GMA. She preferred the truth to be relegated in the dark corridors of her fruad and cheating and lying. Our economy is down. These government is imposing as taxes just to pay its debts which are used for election purposes. They give us a government that is shameless, morality less, ruthless and above all directionless. We dont accept your premise that GMA is better. She is the worst. And for that she has no right to be there. |
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Re: Erap as a human rights victim.
