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View Poll Results: Do you think former Pres. Erap Estrada is now fit and able to run this nation progressively?
Yes 4 14.81%
No 23 85.19%
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:32 PM
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hay! wla nko trust sa mga politicians.nila tanan
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: ERAP's Wiretapped Conversation

sa una sex videos sa mga artista..karon na sad wiretapped conversations sa mga politicians..nahimo naman tang peeping toms and eavesdroppers ani..sori kung mejo off topic me..
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:09 PM
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@bert...bro if u watched debate (gma 7) last friday yu'll know why Chavit just exposed it recently and not during the gloria-garci scandal..Chavit said that it was given to him by an unknown person just days prior to his expose...the xchange of words between Chavit and Jinggoy were really amusing since Ad Hominem na kaayo ila mga points..hehe

u are ryt on one thing that this two camps dont have the credibility in running the government since they both cheated in the last election..but the question here is JUDAS NOT CHEAT? ...Fact is an honest to goodness politician like Roco who dont have any machineries to cheat KULILAT man ang result sa votes..hehe

Now my point is..if this two camps cheated, then why not support the lesser evil and the most capable person in running our government..ayt
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:14 PM
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@tolstoi: nakadungog na ba ka ani bai? sampal kono ni sa mga pirates.

anyways... I think double topic na ni, coz I have already created one for this.
@FK..i didn't saw yur post bai..yup kadungog nako sa conversation..and if yu watched DEBATE last friday gi angkon dayon ni Jinggoy na that was the voice of his father..He even pointed it out that there's nothing wrong bout it coz pag protect ra kuno to sa ila votes sa Mindanao..so niangkun gyud cla na authentic to
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:40 PM
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@tolstoi: yup... kita ko ato nga episode. but if you listen to the tape... klaro sab kaau nga peke to ang part where nag hisgot about PANDAK og TANDA.

og imo paminawon ang uban... maka ingon jud ka mao to'y protecting his vote ra jud kay iyang ka istorya osa ra ka private citizen.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:31 AM
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Who will be the next to be wiretapped, Noli?
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:58 AM
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Default ~Erap's Trial~ Guilty or Not Guilty?

I watched the news last night and what caught my attention is a grieving and crying Erap attending the wake of his deceased brother. The Sandiganbayan did allow him to attend the wake but not the burial. In my opinion the burial is far more significant than the wake or I think the two should not be separated. Why cant the court allow Erap to attend burial as well anyway the guy is not a convicted felon.

Anyway, I cant help but compare the fate of Erap and GMA, both who are embroiled in a controversy. If how was justice and the law so swift in taking actions against Erap it is also slow in acting against GMA. Erap was arrested four months after he was unceremoniously taken away from Malacanang, mug shot, and incarcerated. In contrast, GMA remain entrenched in Malacanang, protected by the AFP and got a huge help from lackey in Congress in trashing a strong impeachment case.

Erap was accused based on the self serving testimony of Chavit Singson who is a self confessed gambling lord. Aside from his assertions nothing was really going for the case of the government. In contrast, the whole country know what GMA and Garci did the last elections.

Erap is helpless in his case. I think his rights are violated and he was illegally and unjustly and hastily charged on trump up charges. I dont see any justice in his plight.

We are also helpless because despite a glaring evidence of irregularity and misconduct the guilty is being allowed to continue acting as President.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:09 AM
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did i read it right? human rights victim? say it again, pls?

how dare you to say the law was swift in taking actions against Erap where in fact his case is almost five years now in trial?
nya, under house arrest pa. nya, pwede pa mo gawas gawas.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:13 AM
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The government is dragging the issue. I think a jailed Erap is better than a free Erap even without a valid and just cause for detention.Â* If Erap is free he could unite the opposition which could present a formidable challenge to this administration.

And please dont ridicule my opinion.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: Erap as a human rights victim.

what planet were you from?
-Sen. Miriam Santiago's comment on politicians who admitted they called Garci but denied cheating


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If Erap is free he could unite the opposition which could present a formidable challenge to this administration.
and we will have shattered Philippines? its not Erap that unite the opposition, it will be the TRUTH, evidences. not mere allegations.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Erap as a human rights victim.

@t.marcelo - i agree with you..might as well the court should have allowed Erap to attend his brother's burial (also)...for humanitarian reasons...but at least he was allowed to visit the wake...

BUT Erap was not accused on the self serving testimony of C. Singson only...there were many people who testified against him...and besides, Singson's admission on his involvement of Erap's wicked ways made his testimony reliable...

Lucky for him that he was allowed House Arrest..
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Erap as a human rights victim.

who?

honestly, i can take s.n.m.p.'s arroyo-bashing-thread since he has the right to air his side against the inconsistency of the present government. and to some points, they're quite true.

but erap a human rights victim? ow cm'on.

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Old 12-17-2005, 10:41 AM
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BUT Erap was not accused on the self serving testimony of C. Singson only...there were many people who testified against him...and besides, Singson's admission on his involvement of Erap's wicked ways made his testimony reliable...
I believe ERAP should be tried with the accussations... and GMA should be tried also... but i hope law can be applied both to the rich and the poor and most especially to the dumb and the intelligent.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:22 PM
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If Erap is free he could unite the opposition which could present a formidable challenge to this administration.

And please dont ridicule my opinion.
with the sentence in bold... and after reading your last line... okay, i won't say anything.

WATCH YOUR ATTITUDE!
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Erap as a human rights victim.

victim in what?...ka hayahay niya nga piniriso noh... laysyo cya ang whos guilty? our president right now? nahuman na diay ang case?

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