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[tempest]

My God, we have a mass hysteria here. These people might have a hallucinogenic overdose. Wake up guys! Independence What could be more stupid than this?

[adminroot]

atu lang e retain ang pagka katsila....

Republica de Cebu

ang dili taga cebu....yes...passport and visa needed.

[adminroot]

Quote: Originally Posted by tempest My God, we have a mass hysteria here. These people might have a hallucinogenic overdose. Wake up guys! Independence What could be more stupid than this?

aw kinsa pa man....ikaw!

[downtownboyla]

I think the government of Cebu should pursue this dream of independence. A lot of investors are turned off when they hear the name Philippines. There could have been a lot of investors in Cebu had it not been under that government run by greedy Tagalogs.
I am aware that the constitution does not allow a province to secede. But are there exceptions wherein a province can secede? Is an uprising the only option for independence? I want a more peaceful process, though, to achieve independence.
I may earn enemies for saying this but is it also possible that Cebu will be a commonwealth under the US just like Puerto Rico, Guam & Northern Marianas?

[darkwing]

yup, positive ang impression sa taga gawas sa Cebu, pero pag connect sa Manila or Philippines, ma down ug apil

[pnoize]

And IF Cebu does declare independence what type of government should be put into place and who do you think should govern the country of Cebu?

[darkwing]

have elections of course

[thisbe.ara]

Quote:
Kamong nang botar ni Loi, Ping, Honasan, Angara inyo na ang Pilipinas. Leave Cebu to the Cebuanos. So, who's with me in this crusade? Sugdan na nato mga igsoon! Voice out your anger! Cebuano Pride is Burning! So please don't call me Filipino in the same manner that the Catalans, the Andalucians, the Malaguenas and the Basques don't want to be called Spaniards!


m with you!

[downtownboyla]

What about monarchy? Joke ra bitaw.
Maayo unta kung ma full blow movement ni sa mga Cebuanos. I apil sab to ninyong mga Cebuanos nga na-a sa gawas.
Mabuhi ang Sugbu.

[whiteoleander]

The problem with the people in the capital is that they think they are the only citizens of the country , deciding for the country's fate. They have forgotten that the Philippines isn't just Manila , it isn't just Luzon. How about the Visayas and Mindanao? How could they just change the country's president with a "revolution" so easily?

They are now deafened by their own shouts that they can't hear the voices of the filipinos from another regions or the voices of the filipinos living abroad. no wonder if small cities and island like ours doesnt want to be a part of this country because of how theyre acting , like Philippines = Manila. duh.

[whiteoleander]

Quote: Originally Posted by tempest My God, we have a mass hysteria here.Â* These people might have a hallucinogenic overdose.Â* Wake up guys!Â* Independence What could be more stupid than this?

say, what now ? who's having mass hysteria ? hallucinogenic overdose. ? here? and who's running amok in the streets carrying and shouting trash ?YOU ARE SO FUNNY !!!!!

[LytSlpr]

Quote: Originally Posted by whiteoleander The problem with the people in the capital is that they think they are the only citizens of the country , deciding for the country's fate. They have forgotten that the Philippines isn't just Manila , it isn't just Luzon. How about the Visayas and Mindanao? How could they just change the country's president with a "revolution" so easily? They are now deafened by their own shouts that they can't hear the voices of the filipinos from another regions or the voices of the filipinos living abroad. no wonder if small cities and island like ours doesnt want to be a part of this country because of how theyre acting , like Philippines = Manila. duh.

VERY TRUE!

I can still vividly remember the Ceboom period. When there were direct international flights to Cebu. Foreigners mostly Japanese think that Cebu is a country in itself.

[antoy hilom]

An independent Cebu is not a wild idea or a Quixotic dream concocted by delusional Cebuanos.Â* It can be a reality if only we work for it.Â* But let's strive for this goal with equanimity, civility and tolerance for the other so-called Filipinos the Tagalogs, Ilonggos, Waray-warays, Pampangos and the Muslims of Mindanao.Â* I have so many Tagalog,Ilonggo, Waray friends not to mention Tagalaga ex-g.f.s (mind you they can be very sweet and caring).Â* What I'm really against is the institutionalization of discrimination against the other non-tagalogs and forcing into our curriculum a flawed national language policy.(you can read more about this in another thread, the articles of Benign0 are very very good).

Back in college, I had this false notion on the superiority of the Tagalogs based on my undiscerning admiration of the Manila bands like Circus, Balahibo, Electros, Flintstones, etc.Â* Little did I know that behind the rhytmn section of these bands were Cebuano Bisaya lead guitarists drummers not to mention lead vocalists.Â* At that time I shurgged off discrimination against Cebuano Bisaya by Tagalogs as baseless and pure paranoia, until I worked for a multinational company with a senior and management dominated by Tagalogs.Â* We protested against the policy on promotions which we considered biased in favor of Tagalogs.Â* Indeed Cebuanos who were as competent and hardworking as their Tagalog counterparts were "promoted" but under very risky conditions that our Tagalog brothers never experienced.Â* Many were assigned in Sulu, Zamboanga and other combat areas in Mindanao.Â* while the tagalogs were posted in very comfortable areas like Cebu City, Bacolod, Iloilo, Makati, etc.Â* Â*

While attending a business communications seminar,Â*we Bisayas were split into groups that were a mixed of different regions.Â* My other Bisaya counterparts, were eased out as leaders of their respective groups, my group as expected was led by a Tagalog.Â* Â*My Tagalog group members tried to downplay my contributions on so many exercises, only to find out that we were beaten badly because they did not consider my inputs.Â* On the second day of the Third day seminar we were way behind in the scoresheets.Â* My group members still managed to gang-up on me to shut up despite leading in the individual vocabulary test followed by two other Cebuanos!Â* Nabuwisit na ko and i just declared a coup de etat to the point of being too abrasive and made direct insults at my group members.Â* Our Tagalog leader can't even distinguish the words - prosecute and persecute - ako siyang gi tagaan ug example. "the jews were persecuted during World War II"..."the cebuanos are persecuted by the tagalogs"...hilom siya, but my fists were already chambered ready to knock him out if he uttered a protest.Â* From then on wa nay ni palag, until I got entangled again in one of the team competitions with another group member a pretentious smart-assed Tagala ex-colegiala who I argued with on the meaning the word ASCEND.Â* Visibly irked I asked her: "Pilar, do you pray the Rosary?" she replied, "Yes I do, why?"Â* then I asked again, what's the second Glorious mystery? She paused for awhile looked up, then conceded: "Oo nga 'no?"Â* On the last day of the seminar, I was made the de facto leader by the group and took the lead in the exercises.Â* We won hands down!Â* The second team, was led by a Cebuano!

In the many seminars I've attended along with our Tagalog brethrens, I always experience the same prejudice and the experience of being underestimated.Â* Â*that's why, during the first day of seminars during the traditional self-introduction among members:Â* I always introduce myself as a "Cebuano with a hard accent and an equally hard-fist!" WA NA LAGI MAG INAMAO!

So you young guys and girls still in college, think hard about this, don't be naive - YES, discrimination against Cebuanos exists in the workplace!!! Be ready for it!!

[pnoize]

antoy hilom: so your answer to discrimnation is discrimination?


i fear that this thread is slowly becoming a tagalog-hate thread....

[Blongkoy]

If only your dug up the archival libraries of Sun Star Daily and The Freeman, you would have known that there indeed was a "Cebu Independence Movement" in the 80s. It was headquartered near Sacred Heart School for Girls and run by known personalities with money, logistics and connections (its most important mover was the person who helped Cory Aquino ascend the presidency via both elections and EDSA).

Nothing happened to it except nightly wastage of froth and saliva. So there went your Cebu Indpendence effort.