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Old 05-12-2009, 10:01 AM
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CLEVELAND – Deported by the United States, retired autoworker John Demjanjuk was carried in a wheelchair onto a jet that departed Monday evening for Germany, which wants to try him as an accessory to the murders of Jews and others at a Nazi death camp in World War II.
Demjanjuk, 89, arrived in an ambulance at Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport after spending several hours with U.S. immigration officials at a downtown federal building. Airport commissioner Khalid Bahhur confirmed Demjanjuk was on the plane and that its destination is Germany.
The deportation came four days after the U.S. Supreme Court refused to consider Demjanjuk's request to block deportation and about 3 1/2 years after he was last ordered deported.
The Ukrainian-born Demjanjuk (pronounced dem-YAHN'-yuk) is wanted on a Munich arrest warrant that accuses him of 29,000 counts of accessory to murder as a guard at the Sobibor death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland. The legal case spans three decades.
A German Justice Ministry spokesman, Ulrich Staudigl, said the retired autoworker was expected to be in Germany by Tuesday.
Demjanjuk denies Germany's accusations, saying he was held by the Germans as a Soviet prisoner of war and was never a camp guard. Demjanjuk's family fought deportation, arguing he is in poor health and might not survive the trans-Atlantic journey.
Rabbi Marvin Hier, a founder of the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center, said Demjanjuk deserves to be punished and that this will probably be the last trial of someone accused of Nazi war crimes.
"His work at the Sobibor death camp was to push men, women and children into the gas chamber," Hier said in a statement. "He had no mercy, no pity and no remorse for the families whose lives he was destroying."
The center was established to locate and help bring to justice Nazi war criminals.
The deportation capped a day in which Demjanjuk said goodbye to his family and was visited by two priests at his home in Seven Hills, a Cleveland suburb.
He then slipped quietly into an ambulance parked in his driveway, his family members standing at the edge of the garage and holding up a floral-patterned bedsheet to block the view of reporters and photographers across the street.
Earlier Monday, his son, John Demjanjuk Jr., said an appeal in a U.S. court would go ahead even if his father isn't in the country.
"Given the history of this case and not a shred of evidence that he ever hurt one person let alone murdered anyone anywhere, this is inhuman even if the courts have said it is lawful," Demjanjuk Jr. said.
Also Monday, a Berlin court rejected an appeal aimed at preventing deportation.
Once in Germany, Demjanjuk will be brought before a judge and formally charged. He will also be given the opportunity to make a statement to the court, in keeping with standard procedure, Staudigl said.
Demjanjuk is expected to be held in the medical unit of a Munich prison. The government has said preparations have been made at the facility to ensure he will receive appropriate care.
The case dates to 1977 when the Justice Department moved to revoke Demjanjuk's U.S. citizenship, alleging he hid his past as a Nazi death camp guard.
Demjanjuk had been tried in Israel after accusations surfaced that he was the notorious "Ivan the Terrible" at the Treblinka death camp in Poland. He was found guilty in 1988 of war crimes and crimes against humanity, a conviction overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court.
A U.S. judge revoked his citizenship in 2002 based on U.S. Justice Department evidence showing he concealed his service at Sobibor and other Nazi-run death and forced-labor camps.
An immigration judge ruled in 2005 he could be deported to Germany, Poland or Ukraine. Munich prosecutors issued an arrest warrant for him in March.







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Old 05-12-2009, 10:40 AM
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grabeha sah 29,000 counts hahahahaha ako nalang maluoy a2 dretso nalang sad unta to cya sa gas chamber sad, "ivan the wheelchair" naman sad cya krn hahahaha
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Angay ana niya is bitay.
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that is just wrong, sending an 89 year old back to his country for prosecution is a bit off hand i think,im not saying that we he did wasnt wrong, cant they do it in us instead?
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that is just wrong, sending an 89 year old back to his country for prosecution is a bit off hand i think,im not saying that we he did wasnt wrong, cant they do it in us instead?
he cannot be tried in the US cause he did not commit war crimes in the states.
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that is just wrong, sending an 89 year old back to his country for prosecution is a bit off hand i think,im not saying that we he did wasnt wrong, cant they do it in us instead?
Dili man siguro.

How about katong iyang gipang-patay na mga Jews including women, children and elderly. Dili pud diay na sayop?
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wa paman pud strong evidence.... suspected raman sad siya... though
it can be possible that he was really a nazi guard...
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Dili man siguro.

How about katong iyang gipang-patay na mga Jews including women, children and elderly. Dili pud diay na sayop?
murag sure na jud kay ka da nga siya jud... remember the it was the SS that is responsible for the holucaust, he could be one or he could be not... don't jump into conclusions yet... wala pa gani siya ma go on trial...
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29k counts mnsad.. grabe sad tawhana gud..
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Dili man siguro.

How about katong iyang gipang-patay na mga Jews including women, children and elderly. Dili pud diay na sayop?
can you actually kill 29k people in a life time just being a guard?(without using bombs)
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can you actually kill 29k people in a life time just being a guard?(without using bombs)
no, but the suspected guard can be an accessory to murder or part of killing some of the people...
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no, but the suspected guard can be an accessory to murder or part of killing some of the people...
right... but there is just one confusion on this... they are soldiers and soldiers are train to follow orders... remember this are fanatical soldiers...
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fanatical or not.... as long as you're proven to be a part of them,

then you're a part of them....
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can you actually kill 29k people in a life time just being a guard?(without using bombs)
gi suspect paman xa.. din la pa say mga strong evedence nga nag matoud na xa jud to nagpatay..
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