BangsaMoro struggle n grievances!

[giddyboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by ronaYo NO bro, Moro is not muslim! Moro is indigenous to mindanao!, we don't call muslims in other countries Moro! Moro is a word used to describe this tribes and incidentally ang relihiyon nila is islam... Basig buot pasabot nimo "Moors" nga kontra sa mga crusaders sa europe, and again moors doesnt mean muslim...

point taken...

BANGSAMORO (per wiki) The term comes from the Malay word bangsa, meaning nation or people, and the Spanish word moro, from the older Spanish word Moor, the Reconquista-period term for Arabs or Muslims.

It may also refer to the Moro people, in general. These include the Tausug, the Maranao, Maguindanaoan, and the Banguingui.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mcmurills at giddyboy, mao gyud pre. kusog kaau mo tanaw ug fpj ug pacquiao. kuha raba kaau ang sinumbagan ni fernando.. hahahaha mao nay dili Pinoy loslos nalng ani nila..

apil pa c Robin Padilla...

[ronaYo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mcmurills usa raman gyud ang ugat aning kagubot sa mindanao ba. tali ra gyud sa kristiyano ug muslim.

Bro i'd like to correct you on this, wrong impression na nga musulti ta nga kristyano vs. muslim ang gubot...
kay ang gubot di man about kristyanismo or muslim!
Actually sucessful jud ang mga Moro rebels nga i-tag sla as "Muslim Rebels" (kay muslim refers to "islam") as if relihiyon ang hinungdan... they're gaining good mileage s international observers kay kahibaw ta nga maluoy ang foreign observers kung apilan ug relihiyon ang ilang kawsa... as if gidaug-daug ang mga muslim sa mindanao! pero dili ni about relihiyon! dili ni about sa muslim... away ra ni sa yuta... yuta rajud hinungdan ani...

[pepau]

Quote: Originally Posted by pandisal Then why is our muslims brothers (that belong to insurgents) trying to say, they have the right to have mindanao for themselves? sorry malic but my grade 1 books doesn't have anything about history of mindanao or any political history of the philippines... advance ra kaau mo dah. Buot huna2x'on, akong ancestor nga mga subanen mas naay katungod sa part sa mindanao, usa man sila sa mga una diri sa Mindanao kaysa anang mga bangsamoro.

Ot are you from northern mindanao sir?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

And also dont forget the JABIDAH MASSACRE . Pero is not enough to say its only LAND because its everyones LAND . If that is the case , gipugngan unta sa MUSLIMS ang mga felow muslims into migrating into other islands populated mostly by Christians if the point is this the LAND of the CHRISTIANS and that is the LAND of the MUSLIMS .

[diatabz]

I don't get it, isn't the ARMM enough? From the way the MILF is doing things, what's next? Kicking out everyone who isn't a Moro? The MILF makes it sound as if they're the only ones representing Mindanao They need to get a grip. Callous as it may sound, nations are born in blood and war, and unfortunately the Moros lost when they recognized Spanish sovereignty. It's the 21st century, nobody's really "fighting for their land" anymore. Ok so maybe Israel and Palestine are at odds, but that's a different story. So's the situation in Tibet. AFAIK, the Moros aren't under some kind of oppression, I don't get why they just can't get along with everybody. I say the ARMM is enough. Deal with it.

[Mcmurills]

ang nindot tanawn unta ani kay mag-unay ang abu sayaf ug ang milf. kung kinsay makadaog maoy maka tag-iya anang armm.. bugoa sad aning milf oi. iparehas unta na nila ilang paagi sa NPA. tanawa diba naka kuha man ug suporta ang NPA?? unsaon ang milf apilon man tawn ang mga sibilyan nga way labot.. ataya nalng gyud...

[clips]

kani jud mga MILF sila ra jud ga samok samok sa mindanao apil na abu sayaff.. gamiton pajud nila ang "MUSLIM" na religion para mu sympatize ang other muslim country nila , niya karon nahimo na holy war sa mindanao.. unsa ba holy war kani raman mga war freak MILF nangita ug gubot, to think gamay ra kaayo ang percentage sa mga muslim sa whole mindanao compare sa christian...maypa to time ni erap , na erase jud ni sila... mga MILF wa pamo gipangkapoy ngita gubot, bisan unsaon ninyo NEVER JUD NA MA INYO ANG MINDANAO maypa mag puyo mo...

[stampAcrete]

Sa pangalan lang nga mu patay sila ug tao, wala na ko ganihe ana.

[potterboy]

I just don't see the reason why MILF is in the picture. they don't respect the government and does not want to be a part of the country. worse, majority of these so-called 'leaders' might not be Filipinos at all.
if this was truly their cause, they could've just diverted those funds to development and not on arms. they can purchase ammos and guns, even better than the AFP.

[diatabz]

And one more thing, the ARMM is the poorest region in the Philippines. Instead of retaking their land why don't they divert their attention on making life better for their fellow Moros?

[giddyboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by diatabz I don't get it, isn't the ARMM enough? From the way the MILF is doing things, what's next? Kicking out everyone who isn't a Moro? The MILF makes it sound as if they're the only ones representing Mindanao They need to get a grip. Callous as it may sound, nations are born in blood and war, and unfortunately the Moros lost when they recognized Spanish sovereignty. It's the 21st century, nobody's really "fighting for their land" anymore. Ok so maybe Israel and Palestine are at odds, but that's a different story. So's the situation in Tibet. AFAIK, the Moros aren't under some kind of oppression, I don't get why they just can't get along with everybody. I say the ARMM is enough. Deal with it.

Ganahan kos imong gpang sulti dah. Pranka kau..I like this one best, "I say the ARMM is enough. Deal with it."

[diatabz]

Quote: Originally Posted by giddyboy Ganahan kos imong gpang sulti dah. Pranka kau..I like this one best, "I say the ARMM is enough. Deal with it."

Lol thanx. I'm not trying to be offensive but when you're granted autonomy that pretty much means you have a responsibility to look after your people. But look at the ARMM now, sobra pa sa nagkalisod ang mga tao. And now they want more? Pagkabinuang ba ana.

@ threadstarter

First off, I respect Muslims, I have Muslim friends and all that. But the MILF is putting Filipino lives at stake. I don't care if you're Muslim, Christian or whether you worship a rock, killing innocent people is wrong. If Kato and Bravo want a war then fine. But even wars have some semblance of rules in this age.

[chad_tukes]

Quote: Originally Posted by diatabz I don't get it, isn't the ARMM enough? From the way the MILF is doing things, what's next? Kicking out everyone who isn't a Moro? The MILF makes it sound as if they're the only ones representing Mindanao They need to get a grip. Callous as it may sound, nations are born in blood and war, and unfortunately the Moros lost when they recognized Spanish sovereignty. It's the 21st century, nobody's really "fighting for their land" anymore. Ok so maybe Israel and Palestine are at odds, but that's a different story. So's the situation in Tibet. AFAIK, the Moros aren't under some kind of oppression, I don't get why they just can't get along with everybody. I say the ARMM is enough. Deal with it.

George Bush, is that you? ^_^

[chad_tukes]

on topic: i agree. nobody's really fighting for their land anymore. Bush said the same statement when Russia invaded Georgia.

[diatabz]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes on topic: i agree. nobody's really fighting for their land anymore. Bush said the same statement when Russia invaded Georgia.

Lol no way?! Snap, of all people to accidentally quote hehehe...