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View Poll Results: Are you in favor of the GRP - MILF agreement on ancestral domain?
In favor 2 4.55%
Not in favor 39 88.64%
I don't care 3 6.82%
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Old 08-09-2008, 06:09 PM
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I grew up in Mindanao.I have relatives in Cotabato.Kabalo gyud ko sa batasan sa Muslim.Para nila their muslim blood is thicker than their ideology.Bisan unsa pa kagamay sa tawo ila gyud ng tabangan kung isa nila ang makasangka niini.Same as thse MILF and MNLF.Dha lang na motago ang ilang mga partidos nga Abu Sayaf once gukdon sa MIlitary.Sagaran ani nila mga relatives lang man.Kita lang gibuang nila.Naka sayop lang sa atong gobyerno,wla kini backbone para bulbuson ning grupoha.Dugay namn unta ni nga samok2 sa nasod.Gusto nila ila ang Minanao.Sa negosyo mas daghan pa sila sa Visayas and Luzon.Basin kadugayan angkonon na nila ang Pilipinas.
well, op kors that is ur personal stand based on ur childhood experience and from ur relatives. But that doesn't mean u r right.

I know Muslim blood is thicker than their ideology. I also know Chinese blood is thicker than water. I also know Garcia or Osmena blood is thicker than water...All these are almost the same thing. While Muslims are more into the political and their religious aspect, the Chinese is more into the business aspect.

I also know that some ASG's are relatives of some MNLF members. But it is just like saying some NPA's are relatives of some partylist members...it is also like saying a carnapper is a relative of somebody who works in LTO.

Being relatives doesn't make it "pareho" ra cla. Abi kay puros man cla Muslim, ing ana nlng atong panglantaw nila...parehos ra. i beg to disagree bro. Muslims in the Phils. have their share of radical and criminal elements. But Christians too.

MNLF is not MILF or ASG.
MILF is not MNLF or ASG. (kung sa uban pa, bastos na ang MILF...hehe)
ASG is not MNLF or MILF.

anyway, murag nilihis na ta gmay sa topic bro. Let's talk about the MOA.
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:37 PM
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negotiations? diba panahon paman ni ni marcos? if i were the president i say ethnic cleansing is the only solution.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:29 PM
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These people must be crushed(MILF,MNLF,Abu Sayaf).Samok2 lang ni sila sa nasud.They are always talking about ceasefire but look at what they are doing.
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sakto ka bai, wapajd kaluoy pamotlan ug ulo bsan patay na, d ni angay sila tagaan ug cease fire d gani sila kamao mu respito ug patayng lawas,
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Air Force planes bomb MILF lair - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos


PIKIT, NORTH COTABATO—Philippine Air Force planes Sunday bombed suspected Moro rebel positions and ground troops pounded them with cannons and mortars after hundreds of guerrillas defied a government ultimatum to withdraw.

Eyewitness accounts put government casualties at three dead, while officials said one Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) rebel was killed in the clashes that erupted mainly in North Cotabato province.

Armed Forces Vice Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Cardozo Luna said fighting was taking place “eyeball-to-eyeball” in some areas and that the military and police were “prepared for a long drawn-out action,” Agence France-Presse reported.

Some 500 guerrillas were involved in the fighting with Army units, including those from the 602nd Brigade, the 40th Infantry Battalion, and 7th Infantry Battalion, according to Brig. Gen. Jorge Segovia, acting AFP command center chief.

Military reports mentioned no deaths among soldiers but said at least six of them were wounded in skirmishes that occurred in areas largely outside the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM), where regional elections were to be held on Monday.

There was no indication that the new flare-up was directly related to the ARMM elections. But some of the fighting spilled over to two villages in Northern Kabuntalan, in Shariff Kabunsuan, where the rebels suffered one dead, according to Chief Supt. Joel Goltiao, the ARMM police director.

Thousands flee

The weeks-long tension has forced some 100,000 villagers to flee their homes, relief officials in North Cotabato said.

Guided by troops on the ground, OV-10 Broncos, SF-260 planes and MG-520 attack helicopters hammered MILF positions in North Cotabato with 260-pound bombs and rockets, a senior PAF official monitoring the military operation said.

“We already launched air operations using OV-10s, MG-520s and SF-260s. Bombs, rockets and machine gun fire were delivered to targets given by ground troops,” said the official, who asked not to be named because he was not in charge of releasing statements to the media.

The bombs were dropped in the area “of the 105th Base Command of the MILF, which is out of control already,” the official told the Philippine Daily Inquirer (parent company of INQUIRER.net).

Further air strikes were expected until MILF troops heeded the government’s demand for a pullout.

Withdrawal ordered

The government had given about 800 guerrillas until 10 a.m. on Friday to vacate several villages they had occupied supposedly in violation of a 2003 ceasefire.

Officials accused the rebels of burning houses, destroying farms, stealing cattle and driving tens of thousands of people from their homes.

The fresh conflict came at a crucial point in peace negotiations between the government and the MILF rebels, who have reached an agreement calling for the establishment of an independent Bangsamoro homeland.

The formal signing of the accord was stopped last week by the Supreme Court, acting on petitions filed by Christian politicians opposed to the inclusion of their areas in the proposed Muslim homeland.

On Saturday, the rebels were ordered by their leaders to pull back but later complained that their withdrawal was hampered by government troops and armed villagers in areas where they were to pass. The rebels said some had sporadically fired at them.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:21 PM
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Murag bag o pa lang si Esperon bilang peace adviser,naghimo na sya ug kasamok sa huna-huna ni GMA.
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kana lagi nagdali-dali, pakita gilas siguro. aw paspas sad kadakdak si esperon
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:49 AM
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After series of mortars and cannons,MILF spokesman said they will know if its really their men that the militaries have encountered.Ngano man diay?dili diay to MILF ang nisakop sa mga barangays sa MIDsayap?Or basin nabungog na sila sa mortars.?
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:22 PM
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nigawas na jud ang tinuod nga tumong sa Palasyo..hehe

Cha-Cha ---> Federalism ---> Gloria all the way!!!

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nigawas na jud ang tinuod nga tumong sa Palasyo..hehe

Cha-Cha ---> Federalism ---> Gloria all the way!!!
yeah. i noticed the pattern too.

armm polls > MOA > cancelled MOA = war > cha-cha > federalism > toinks

hehehehe
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:10 AM
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Mao bitaw to akong nadunggan sad ni Gloring.Kinahanglan daw padugayon iyang term para mahimo niya ang iyang mga plano...Mangurakot pagsamot?
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3 civilians killed in crossfire


DAVAO CITY -- A nine-year-old girl and her 80-year-old grandmother died in the crossfire between the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the government troops in Barangay Takepan, Aleosan town in North Cotabato.

The body of another civilian killed in the firefight was not recovered immediately due to the presence of the MILF in the area. The rebels pulled out from the barangay only Tuesday noon.

In a telephone interview, MILF military spokesman Eid Kabalu said they pity the innocents caught in the crossfire.

"We sympathize with them. We pity them," said Kabalu.

He stressed though that they are not to blame for it, adding that the MILF rebels were not the ones initiating the attacks.

Kabalu said their men were merely defending themselves from the military offensives.

The armed conflict in North Cotabato stemmed from the 24-hour ultimatum issued by the government for the MILF rebels to vacate the areas in the province, which they forcibly occupied.

About 130,000 residents were displaced due to the ensuing firefight that started Sunday.

A missionary Oblate priest said trauma, anger, and anguish are just few of the many emotions painted on the faces of thousands of war victims in North Cotabato.

"You can't blame them from being angry. They were thrown out from their lands. Their relatives were killed, so what can you expect," said Fr. Eduardo Vasquez, director of the Inter-Religious Dialogue of the Immaculate Conception Parish in Pikit town.

Vasquez and members of the parish-led Disaster Response Team have been actively involved in relief distribution since Monday.

"Food, clothing, and other relief items had come from different sources, from the local government units, church organizations, and religious schools and other institutions of the Oblates of Mary Immaculate and the Notre Dame System in North Cotabato," he said.

The Oblate missionary, who spent more than four years in the hinterlands of North Upi in Shariff Kabungsuan before his assignment in Pikit, said he pitied those evacuees "who have lost everything because of the wars."

"They fled on foot, taking only themselves or the clothes they wore at that time. They all want to be spared from the fighting," he said.

Marlon Dantes, one of the evacuees who is an out-of-school youth from Barangay Silik, also in Pikit, has suffered a mental disorder after a number of mortar shells dropped just few meters away from his house on Sunday night.

Dantes, together with his family, joined thousands of villagers who fled from their homes at the height of war, said Vasquez.

"I heard him say words like, intelligence and 'traydor,' I don't know what he meant by that," the priest said as he urged experts on trauma healing to help Dantes and others who experienced stress and shock because of the wars.

As of Wednesday, some evacuees were assisted in going back to their homes that were reclaimed by the government forces.


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Old 08-14-2008, 09:59 AM
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tungod jud ni sa sundang ug habol oi he he he
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:07 AM
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According to the AFP spokesman;"Now that we have completely secure and clear the area,It's time to crushed them(MILF).'Kanus-a pa kaha?Maayo lang mo sa sulti.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:31 AM
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batia sad og ngan ang MILF oi.. mura man salida nga Mama ang tirada..

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